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SuikodenII

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@SuikodenII you really see margo being involved at 147? i mean isnt he coming back as a middle?

Has Cheato announced he'll be campaigning at 147?
Boxrec has it at Welterweight
Fat Dan has it at Jr. Middleweight
And latinospost has it a catch weight in between

Here's my prediction on his comeback:
-Arum lets him fight in Mexico 1-3 times to get his rhythm back and build is stock back up
-Arum cashes him out in USA against Timothy Bradley or another 147/154 prospective fighter to build their resume
-Margarito continues to call out Cotto for a rubber-match this entire time
-As long as Margarito has people around him that love him, they'll keep him far far away from 160
 

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I know its not possible...but a potential Swift vs JMM at the new MGM in June
:noah::ohlawd::whoo:

It works for so many different reasons...JMM gets his 147 title shot...A real Mexican vs "fake PR"...another Mexican Legend for Swift to retire... More exposure on the west coast for Garcia...it'll never happen :mjcry:


I think Guerrero still got fights left...
Berto 2
Josesito Lopez
Victor Ortiz
Porter (if he loses to Keith)
Sammy Vasquez
Errol Spence
Chris Algieri

Them fights could headline a PBC N would be all action

Its a God Damn shame Bradley is stuck at TR... I can't even fault the nikka cuz he got 3 :deadmanny: fights N Monica's fat ass gets him 2 Milly a fight to fight in half empty arenas, against lower tier Walterweights N he gets no backlash for it whatsoever :whew:

Going off subject but if muhfukkers bytched N moaned about HBO promotions N the bullshyt they put on TV the way they bytch N nitpick erry lil thing PBC does... Maybe they'd feel some damn pressure N make better fights

Name a upcoming HBO fight in 2016 thats decent ...I ain't even saying great... Im saying decent :beli:
Those sound like good fights... but about the HBO "decent" fights lined up for 2016...

-Felix Verdejo vs. William Silva (2 undefeated, 135, Latino power punchers)--February
-Sadam Ali vs. Jessie Vargas (vacant WBO "regular" title)--March
-Arthur Abraham vs. Gilberto Ramirez (PPV undercard)--April

...and that's all.
 

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That's Khan, Porter, Thurman, and now Brook who are all looking at Danny Garcia like :demonic:



Why wouldn't they...they get a great payday, can legit lose 8-4, cry robbery N still have people say they won :russ:


None of them fighters has anything close to Ghosts Chin tho N if :demonic: Swift shows up throwing them bombs moving around so elegantly #swiftset unification celebration thread goin be lit :ohlawd:







#swiftset
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Also, I wanna see some sort of PBC round robin of Dominic BREHzeale, Gerald Washington, Chris Arreola, & Steve Cunningham next.


I think those 4 could make some entertaining HW scraps on the undercard of some PBC fights. Also, if either BREHzeale or Washington make it through undefeated, then would make good opponents for Wilder or Martin:obama:

steve is going back to CW..washington :scust:...i have a morbid curiosity to see breazeale and arreola though
 

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Best I've Faced: Luis Ramon Campas - Ring TV
Anson Wainwright
Luis Ramon “Yory Boy” Campas is one of only a handful of modern day fighters to have reached 100 professional wins. The pinnacle of the heavy-handed Mexican’s career came in the late ’90s when he held the IBF junior middleweight title.

He was born in Navojoa, Sonora, close to 400 miles south of the U.S border. His brother Frankie was the state champion, but along with their father both prohibited “Yory Boy” (meaning light skinned) from boxing. However, boxing was in his blood and he used to sneak to the gym when Frankie wasn’t training. Campas had 57 amateur fights – all wins. He turned pro at 15.

On his way up Campas was famed for his fighting style and his ring entrances. Campas wore a headdress and would step into the ring after a man wearing antlers did a “Deer Dance” to ward off evil spirits and bring good fortune.

He won his first 56 fights, 50 by knockout, collecting the Mexican and then NABF titles at 147 pounds. Campas was rated highly by the main sanctioning bodies but had to wait until September 1994 for his first world title opportunity when he took on a rising Felix Trinidad.

Both men threw heavy punches from the opening bell. In the second round Campas landed a short crisp left hook that deposited Trinidad on the canvas. However, not for the first or last time, this served as a wake-up call for Trinidad who came back strongly, landing several hard shots, all of which the Mexican native took. A fusillade of punches rocked Campas’ head back and sent him to the ropes, where referee Richard Steele jumped between both fighters to stop the fight late in the fourth frame.

Over the next two years Campas worked his way back into title contention, challenging the hugely underrated Jose Luis Lopez, the WBO welterweight titleholder at the time. Lopez fought terrifically and forced Campas to retire at the end of the fifth round.

Unperturbed, Campas migrated to junior middleweight and won four fights over the next year to set up a meeting with unbeaten 1992 U.S Olympian Raul Marquez. The fight was finely poised until Campas broke through in the eighth round, forcing the stoppage, in what he says was his best win and his proudest moment in boxing.

He made three successful defenses against the seasoned trio of Anthony Stephens, Pedro Ortega and Larry Barnes, the later coming on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya-Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. II.

A year into his reign Campas lost the IBF strap against Fernando Vargas, when he retired at the end of the seventh round.

He continued to fight over the next four-and-a-half years, going 8-2 – the losses coming against another snake-bitten 147-pound contender, Oba Carr, and versus Daniel Santos in an unsuccessful WBO 154-pound title bout – when he was selected to face WBA/WBC champion De La Hoya. Campas was stopped late in the seventh round, a TKO he remains unhappy about that bout to this day.

That was the last time Campas would contest a world title fight, however. He has remained active since, winning some, losing some. He is listed as 105-17-3, 81 knockouts on boxrec but his manager Joe Diaz says his record is actually 111-17-3 with 82 KOs.

During their 12 years together Diaz has gotten to know Campas and his family well.

“Everywhere that I go, the whole town stands behind Campas,” said an impassioned Diaz. “All the old Spaniards have settled in Navojoa, they all know the family and they all say, “Joe, you picked the right guy, he’s an honest boy, he’s never caused any problems, never took a drug, no tattoos. I’ve been with him 12 years, he’s like an adopted son.”

The Mexican is well known in Three Forks, Montana, where he has lived there off and on for three years at Diaz home, using it as a training base.

  On Saturday, Campas will bring the curtain down on his 29-year career when he steps in the ring for the 132nd time against former Contender alum Anthony Bonsante.

“I hope to retire Campas with decent money,” Diaz said. “I have a lot of investors who want to help him. Everybody wants to help this man.”

The 44-year-old is married to childhood sweetheart Mabel. The couple have three children.    

He agreed to speak to RingTV.com about the best he faced in 10 key categories.

BEST JAB
Jose Luis Lopez:
Because I felt it, he pressured me with the jab, he had a lot of movement. He won, he was a good boxer, aggressive, a counterpuncher, he did a lot of things that I didn’t have the skills to beat. That’s why he won. I still remember feeling his punchers.

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Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images

BEST DEFENSE
Oscar De La Hoya: He was loose, he had good movement and he could block punches. With Lopez, he didn’t have the defense but you couldn’t hurt him, the shape he was in.

BEST CHIN
Raul Marquez:
He could take a lot of punches and it didn’t faze him.

FASTEST HANDS
De La Hoya:
He was more rapid than anybody.

FASTEST FEET
Daniel Santos: Because all he did was run [laughs]. He was here, he was there, he was like a rabbit.

SMARTEST
Felix Trinidad:
Very intelligent in the ring. He made all the moves. I knocked him down [in the second round], Trinidad thought about it and changed his tactics.

STRONGEST
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Lopez: He could take the punches and he kept pressuring. His punches were harder than any other punches I took from anybody else to this day.

BEST PUNCHER
Lopez:
He has the experience, he had everything over me at that time. De La Hoya has no punch.

BEST SKILLS
Lopez: He was a complete fighter all around, not only power, he had skills. Trinidad’s father took care of him, De La Hoya because he’s American, he had people watching over him but Lopez was left to the wolves, his diet, drugs all this stuff destroyed this man’s career.

BEST OVERALL
Lopez:
Pressure-wise, the best, taking punches, they didn’t faze him, the hardest I’ve ever been hit was by Lopez. How come De La Hoya refused to fight Lopez? Because Lopez was the best.

Questions and/or comments can be sent to Anson at elraincoat@live.co.uk and you can follow him at www.twitter.com/AnsonWainwright
 

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So are yall really impressed with Swift's performance against Ghost.....or is it just more Ring "counter-hating" shyt going on?:ohhh:


From everywhere Im reading, the fight was close first 5 rounds (I ironically had it 3-2 Ghost after 5 and that's all I seen up to the middle of the 6th), Swift took over from the 6th round and on, Ghost won the 12th clearly, and the scores could be anywhere from 8-4 to 7-5 in Swift's favor.:ehh:


Now, Swift winning a fight 7-5 is cool.....but not against the washed up Ghost brehs, let's be honest. The same dude we just seen Aron Martinez give that work too & drop, plus he's the same dude that Thurman dropped & dominated for all but 1, maybe 2 rounds just had a close fight with Swift?:jbhmm:


Ghost is a gatekeeper and we all came to this conclusion when he went life & death with Tajiri after Floyd outclassed him. Honestly, he should be 1-4 in his last 4 fights including Saturday night (Beat Tajiri. Losses to Floyd, Kool Keith, Aron Martinez, and Swift) :yeshrug:



Ghost beats NO one ranked in the Top 10 at Welterweight...I thought this train of thought was established way before the fight. Winning 8-4, 7-5 is cool, but Im hoping CLEAR rounds were won and some dominance were being shown within those winning rounds from Swift :obama:.


Im gonna find this fight and see it fully through, because only on here am I reading people saying they came away impressed with the fight.....except for @LauderdaleBoss. The way he described the fight, if it played out that way, then I can visualize that happening and can understand the reasoning behind the props being given:salute:

I was impressed but I was looking at it from the perspective of the Ghost fight being made to help him get better at fighting pressure guys.

Herrera, PED, Paulie (to an extent), and now Ghost were all good at something Danny had issues with.
 

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I was impressed but I was looking at it from the perspective of the Ghost fight being made to help him get better at fighting pressure guys.

Herrera, PED, Paulie (to an extent), and now Ghost were all good at something Danny had issues with.


Under that context, I can see that too:obama:
 
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