That Mayweather Promotions logo though
That logo and the border filled with mostly mysterious fighters no one has heard of is not a good look.
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That logo and the border filled with mostly mysterious fighters no one has heard of is not a good look.
That first 20 or so seconds was just
I love when Angel gets all patriotic.Not sure what he is talking about with the "they say Floyd fought nobody" and "Canelo/Cotto" stuff though.
Anyone who says Floyd fought nobody is just an idiot who doesn't know boxing but by the same token a Canelo/Cotto fight was going to be a big deal whether those two dudes had fought Floyd or not.
BoxingScene 2015 Prospect of the Year: Erickson Lubin
By Cliff Rold
There's always something exciting about new talent in boxing’s glamour classes. Blue chip at heavyweight, middleweight, welterweight means more than just talent. It also means the potential for a high-dollar stardom that can be harder to achieve in most other divisions.
Last year, these honors went to a fighter some staffers here still view as a prospect, Heavyweight Anthony Joshua. Joshua (15-0, 15 KO) went 5-0 with 5 knockouts in 2015, including a test against fellow undefeated Dillian Whyte. Joshua closed the year rated in the top ten by three of the four major sanctioning bodies, the TBRB, and Ring Magazine.
He’s made the move to fledgling contender. By the end of 2016, he may be closing in on a title. Not far behind him may be the man who took honors here at BoxingScene. 5-0 with 4 knockouts in 2015, our choice faced a spread of opponents with a combined record of 95-20-3 and seemed to get better each time out. At 5’11 and only 20 years of age, he fights today at Jr. middleweight but the future is higher on the scale.
2015 Prospect of the Year: Erickson Lubin
If Joshua looks like a potential future for the big men, Florida’s Lubin (13-0, 10 KO) shows all the tools of a possible middleweight heir. Height, skill, speed, power, and finishing ability come in a southpaw package. Lubin would have been a strong potential medalist had he opted to stay in the unpaid ranks and aim for the 2016 Games. In 2013, at only 18, he decided it was a better idea to get paid for his labor.
Professional boxing suits him well. Lubin turned heads with his last two appearances of the year. Matched with veterans Orlando Lora and Alexis Camacho, Lubin showed poise, consistency, and the sort of talent that gets fans excited. Will he accelerate his development in 2016 or will his handlers take their time given his age? Can Lubin’s talent be marketed into the sort of economic possibilities middleweight can produce?
We’ll be watching to find out, and it’s going to be fun to watch Lubin.
Others Receiving Honorable Mention (In Alphabetical Order)
Artur Beterbiev: Injury kept the 30-year old Beterbiev (9-0, 9 KO) from continuing what to date has been a meteoric rise. He went to scratch only twice this year but he impressed both times. Former light heavyweight titlist Gabriel Campillo was knocked out in four rounds and Alexander Johnson lasted seven. The 30-year old Beterbiev is good enough that some wanted to see him test Sergey Kovalev already. Fighting under the PBC banner, could Beterbiev be a viable contender for Adonis Stevenson by the end of 2016? The sooner the Russian is back in the ring, the sooner we can find out.
Dmitry Bivol: Beterbiev isn’t the only big hitter on the rise at light heavyweight. Born in Kyrgyzstan, Bivol (5-0, 5 KO) won four times in 2015. Only 25, Bivol isn’t being handled with kid gloves. He has yet to face a foe with a losing record or an opponent with less than 20 fights. What stands out with Bivol? Beyond the obvious power and educated punch selection, the kid has eye-catching speed and the ability to change gears in his delivery. The dominance of the former Soviet Bloc in the highest weight classes doesn’t look in any danger of abating soon.
Joseph Parker: The massively talented New Zealander is just a hair behind Joshua in terms of heavyweight hopes for the future. Parker (17-0, 15 KO) is already rated in the top ten by the WBO and added five wins by knockout as 2015 unfolded. The most recognizable name in that run was veteran former title challenger Kali Meehan. Parker has size, power, and exceptional speed. 2016 is the year we should start to see a little better opposition. At 23, he has time on his side but his talent says patience may not be a virtue.
Errol Spence: The 25-year old Spence (19-0, 16 KO) was one of the leading vote getters in 2014 and remained so this year. That he didn’t win in this category may reflect that a lot of people see him as already past the prospect phase. He’s not quite a top ten contender yet, but that says more about where he’s fighting than him. Welterweight is one of the toughest fields in all of boxing. Spence is right at the door, going 4-0 in 2015 against a roster of foes with a combined record of 97-4. Spence went home early every time with his longest fight going into the eighth round. Spence could be in the title picture sooner than later.
Previous Prospect of the Year Winners
2014: Anthony Joshua
2013: Felix Verdejo
2012: Keith Thurman
2011: Danny Garcia
2010: Mikey Garcia
2009: Daniel Jacobs
Cliff Rold is the Managing Editor of BoxingScene, a founding member of the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and a member the Yahoo Pound for Pound voting panel, and the Boxing Writers Association of America. He can be reached at roldboxing@hotmail.com
- See more at: BoxingScene 2015 Prospect of the Year: Erickson Lubin - Boxing News
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By Cliff Rold
There's always something exciting about new talent in boxing’s glamour classes. Blue chip at heavyweight, middleweight, welterweight means more than just talent. It also means the potential for a high-dollar stardom that can be harder to achieve in most other divisions.
Last year, these honors went to a fighter some staffers here still view as a prospect, Heavyweight Anthony Joshua. Joshua (15-0, 15 KO) went 5-0 with 5 knockouts in 2015, including a test against fellow undefeated Dillian Whyte. Joshua closed the year rated in the top ten by three of the four major sanctioning bodies, the TBRB, and Ring Magazine.
He’s made the move to fledgling contender. By the end of 2016, he may be closing in on a title. Not far behind him may be the man who took honors here at BoxingScene. 5-0 with 4 knockouts in 2015, our choice faced a spread of opponents with a combined record of 95-20-3 and seemed to get better each time out. At 5’11 and only 20 years of age, he fights today at Jr. middleweight but the future is higher on the scale.
2015 Prospect of the Year: Erickson Lubin
If Joshua looks like a potential future for the big men, Florida’s Lubin (13-0, 10 KO) shows all the tools of a possible middleweight heir. Height, skill, speed, power, and finishing ability come in a southpaw package. Lubin would have been a strong potential medalist had he opted to stay in the unpaid ranks and aim for the 2016 Games. In 2013, at only 18, he decided it was a better idea to get paid for his labor.
Professional boxing suits him well. Lubin turned heads with his last two appearances of the year. Matched with veterans Orlando Lora and Alexis Camacho, Lubin showed poise, consistency, and the sort of talent that gets fans excited. Will he accelerate his development in 2016 or will his handlers take their time given his age? Can Lubin’s talent be marketed into the sort of economic possibilities middleweight can produce?
We’ll be watching to find out, and it’s going to be fun to watch Lubin.
Others Receiving Honorable Mention (In Alphabetical Order)
Artur Beterbiev: Injury kept the 30-year old Beterbiev (9-0, 9 KO) from continuing what to date has been a meteoric rise. He went to scratch only twice this year but he impressed both times. Former light heavyweight titlist Gabriel Campillo was knocked out in four rounds and Alexander Johnson lasted seven. The 30-year old Beterbiev is good enough that some wanted to see him test Sergey Kovalev already. Fighting under the PBC banner, could Beterbiev be a viable contender for Adonis Stevenson by the end of 2016? The sooner the Russian is back in the ring, the sooner we can find out.
Dmitry Bivol: Beterbiev isn’t the only big hitter on the rise at light heavyweight. Born in Kyrgyzstan, Bivol (5-0, 5 KO) won four times in 2015. Only 25, Bivol isn’t being handled with kid gloves. He has yet to face a foe with a losing record or an opponent with less than 20 fights. What stands out with Bivol? Beyond the obvious power and educated punch selection, the kid has eye-catching speed and the ability to change gears in his delivery. The dominance of the former Soviet Bloc in the highest weight classes doesn’t look in any danger of abating soon.
Joseph Parker: The massively talented New Zealander is just a hair behind Joshua in terms of heavyweight hopes for the future. Parker (17-0, 15 KO) is already rated in the top ten by the WBO and added five wins by knockout as 2015 unfolded. The most recognizable name in that run was veteran former title challenger Kali Meehan. Parker has size, power, and exceptional speed. 2016 is the year we should start to see a little better opposition. At 23, he has time on his side but his talent says patience may not be a virtue.
Errol Spence: The 25-year old Spence (19-0, 16 KO) was one of the leading vote getters in 2014 and remained so this year. That he didn’t win in this category may reflect that a lot of people see him as already past the prospect phase. He’s not quite a top ten contender yet, but that says more about where he’s fighting than him. Welterweight is one of the toughest fields in all of boxing. Spence is right at the door, going 4-0 in 2015 against a roster of foes with a combined record of 97-4. Spence went home early every time with his longest fight going into the eighth round. Spence could be in the title picture sooner than later.
Previous Prospect of the Year Winners
2014: Anthony Joshua
2013: Felix Verdejo
2012: Keith Thurman
2011: Danny Garcia
2010: Mikey Garcia
2009: Daniel Jacobs
Cliff Rold is the Managing Editor of BoxingScene, a founding member of the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and a member the Yahoo Pound for Pound voting panel, and the Boxing Writers Association of America. He can be reached at roldboxing@hotmail.com
- See more at: BoxingScene 2015 Prospect of the Year: Erickson Lubin - Boxing News
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Angel Garcia: You have to KO Canelo Alvarez to beat him, can't see a Danny Garcia-Amir Khan rematch
By Wil Esco and fighthub on Dec 30, 2015, 10:00a +
The father/trainer of Danny Garcia gives his take on the Cotto-Canelo fight, and mentions why he doesn't see a rematch between his son and Amir Khan happening.
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In this video interview FightHub catches up with Angel Garcia to touch on a couple of recent hot topics. First, Angel talks about the Cotto-Canelo fight, saying that he thought the decision went exactly how he predicted. Specifically he says that he knew beforehand how the landscape of the fight would unfold, stating that Canelo would be coming forward and that Cotto would try to outbox him. Unfortunately, Angel says that kind of game plan will probably never be sufficient to get the best of Canelo Alvarez on the scorecards.
"If you think you're gonna run like [Erislandy] Lara did, remember Lara did that too, he ran a lot and thought he won the fight, and the next thing you know: 'And Still...'"
Angel says he had Lara beating Canelo on that night with his boxing ability but says, "at the end of the day, you gotta get it in. If you want to be the star you got to knock [Canelo] the f*#k out." He then draws an analogy to his son's fight against Amir Khan, saying if that fight had gone to the scorecards there was no way Danny would've earned a decision -- therefore his whole game plan was to knock Khan out once he got confident enough to open up with Danny.
Finally, when it was brought up that Khan still wants a rematch with Danny, Angel says he can't see it happening.
"For what?! The money? Danny's okay [financially] right now...We're past that. That's over man, we're looking for new names, why fight someone we already beat."
So poor Amir Khan still looks like he's on the outside looking in trying to land a big fight. Fortunately, as each notable fighter in the division appears to be passing Khan over, the long-awaited fight between Khan and Kell Brook seems to become more of an imminent possibility.
Angel Garcia: You have to KO Canelo Alvarez to beat him, can't see a Danny Garcia-Amir Khan rematch
@ChocolateGiddyUp I told you breh....Angel Garcia is not down with Swift vs Khan 2
By Wil Esco and fighthub on Dec 30, 2015, 10:00a +
The father/trainer of Danny Garcia gives his take on the Cotto-Canelo fight, and mentions why he doesn't see a rematch between his son and Amir Khan happening.
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In this video interview FightHub catches up with Angel Garcia to touch on a couple of recent hot topics. First, Angel talks about the Cotto-Canelo fight, saying that he thought the decision went exactly how he predicted. Specifically he says that he knew beforehand how the landscape of the fight would unfold, stating that Canelo would be coming forward and that Cotto would try to outbox him. Unfortunately, Angel says that kind of game plan will probably never be sufficient to get the best of Canelo Alvarez on the scorecards.
"If you think you're gonna run like [Erislandy] Lara did, remember Lara did that too, he ran a lot and thought he won the fight, and the next thing you know: 'And Still...'"
Angel says he had Lara beating Canelo on that night with his boxing ability but says, "at the end of the day, you gotta get it in. If you want to be the star you got to knock [Canelo] the f*#k out." He then draws an analogy to his son's fight against Amir Khan, saying if that fight had gone to the scorecards there was no way Danny would've earned a decision -- therefore his whole game plan was to knock Khan out once he got confident enough to open up with Danny.
Finally, when it was brought up that Khan still wants a rematch with Danny, Angel says he can't see it happening.
"For what?! The money? Danny's okay [financially] right now...We're past that. That's over man, we're looking for new names, why fight someone we already beat."
So poor Amir Khan still looks like he's on the outside looking in trying to land a big fight. Fortunately, as each notable fighter in the division appears to be passing Khan over, the long-awaited fight between Khan and Kell Brook seems to become more of an imminent possibility.
Angel Garcia: You have to KO Canelo Alvarez to beat him, can't see a Danny Garcia-Amir Khan rematch
@ChocolateGiddyUp I told you breh....Angel Garcia is not down with Swift vs Khan 2
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Good fight
Good look for Crawford he need to get out of Nebraska and get some exposure out East
I agree. And, he's gonna have to CLEARLY beat Herrera, because Herrera seems to have a "he didn't lose...he was robbed" type of fanbase who gives him any fight in their mind that's close
Tide Run This
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Tide Run This
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Real shyt though that's good be a good card i'm still 50/50 on going back to my hbo subscription showtime let me down in 2015 but hbo lagged it with the cards too compared to past years. Which network should I pick with a gun to my head I'm thinking HBO?
I went with HBO as my only channel starting in November, but I'm about to get Showtime back too in January
Took a 2 month break? Or did you boss up on SHO for all of '15?
I always had both HBO & Showtime, but I cut Showtime in November, because there Boxing future was looking
. Now that #BombZquad is fighting in January, #PorterHouse possibly in February, and #AboutBillions in March....Im gonna pick Showtime back up again.