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You trying to imply PED wasn't worried bout Swifts power when his words post fight N actions in fight showed much different
Oh we talking about post fight words??
Finally free from that avy/sig
This some hoe ass shyt.
Can't box but ruined the career of your #1 fighter :walnuts:
#swiftset :swift#1:
how about after that fight swift has not faced anyone resembling a threat..herrera was a cherry pick gone wrong (which i warned about) and he had too much candy against lamont who was in tiptop shape...continuing with this upcoming fight with ghost...hes going to have to face some real comp sometime breh
Breh.....what?
I have never seen someone justify a Boxer's overusage of TBA's in this fashion before
I guess when we stan a fighter, we can always come up with the most random of passes we can give them
I love it
He wasn't as good as he thought he was.
I knew it when I seen 17 year old amateur Lubin giving him the beats in sparring...and Imam was already a professional at the time
Lubin is a different kinda monster. That kid will punish 147, 154, and 160 at some point in his career.
then youre going to have to tell me what gary russ fights had a replacement opponent breh?Breh.....what?
I have never seen someone justify a Boxer's overusage of TBA's in this fashion before
I guess when we stan a fighter, we can always come up with the most random of passes we can give them
I love it
haahahhahahaah word i was like..what? naw? word? aiight..Finally free from that avy/sig
I don't know about great potential, great fighters don't lose to someone of that caliber...especially with the amateur experience Imam had under his belt.
ok fair enough..let's see how he picks up now on./.
I don't keep up with Turbo Fists breh.....all I know is, it's usually a headline that says: "Gary Russell Jr vs TBA, date to be determined" and then about 3-4 weeks before the fight a name is finally placed infront of TBA.
Don't be acting like Gary Russell Jr isn't the TBA King breh
I don't keep up with Turbo Fists breh.....all I know is, it's usually a headline that says: "Gary Russell Jr vs TBA, date to be determined" and then about 3-4 weeks before the fight a name is finally placed infront of TBA.
Don't be acting like Gary Russell Jr isn't the TBA King breh
no no no...in order for that rhetoric that TBA = last min replacement to stick; receipts have to be shown on what fights actually were
no no no...in order for that rhetoric that TBA = last min replacement to stick; receipts have to be shown on what fights actually were
Ok...article from a little over 2 years ago on Russell's fondness for everything TBA
Please, King Richard! Don’t reward Gary Russell Jr. for beating up on TBA so often
By Kevin Iole August 27, 2013 12:38 AM Boxing
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Gary Russell Jr. may get a title shot despite bypassing all contenders (Getty Images)Gary Russell Jr. is an unbeaten featherweight who is one of the most promising fighters in the sport. He may have boxing's fastest hands, and he's developed into a quality overall contender.
But as Steve Jobs used to say, there's one more thing.
And that thing is a doozy. It's so significant, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer shouldn't put him in a title fight against new champion Jhonny Gonzalez, no matter how strong the urge.
The reason? Simple. TBA.
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WBC featherweight champion Jhonny Gonzalez (Getty Images)TBA seems like it's Russell's most frequent opponent. No elite prospect has had this many free passes this far into his career. Russell (23-0, 13 KOs) rarely fights anyone of note and has regularly feasted upon opponents who are second-tier, at best. He might be good enough to defeat [URL='http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--jhonny-gonzalez-ruins-golden-boy-s-best-laid-plans--upsetting-abner-mares-in-opening-round-044913317.html']Gonzalez, who stunned Abner Mares to win the WBC belt Saturday in Carson, Calif., with a first-round technical knockout, but that misses the point.
A guy who essentially refuses to face a contender and who hasn't fought anyone of any note as a pro doesn't deserve to be rewarded with a championship match.
Russell defeated Juan Ruiz on Aug. 9 in Indio, Calif., in his last bout. But Ruiz came into the fight having lost six in a row and nine of his last 10. That's not the kind of opponent one should need to beat to make it into a title match.
But King Richard seems ready to anoint Russell as the contender-in-waiting at featherweight. Russell, of course, is promoted by Golden Boy, as is Mares. Golden Boy received three options on Gonzalez when he upset Mares, but Golden Boy isn't his primary promoter. Thus, it's clear that Golden Boy would prefer to get the belt back in its hands.
Gary Russell wants a big fight, that's a big fight. I would love to make that fight, maybe November or December. We'll see when Jhonny wants to fight; we'll talk to his promoter.
Russell hasn't wanted a big fight up to this point in his career. There's little doubt that he'll win one at some point, and he may develop into one of boxing's best overall champions when he finally steps up. Russell is clearly a future star.
Title shots are doled far too easily these days, but this is kind of ridiculous. It only makes sense to force a fighter to face, and defeat, someone a bit tougher than TBA in order to fight for the title.
Russell was a decorated amateur who lost an opportunity to compete in the 2008 Olympics in Beijing when he got ill at the Games. He's been extraordinarily impressive as a pro, albeit against less-than-stellar opposition. And when he was offered a major fight earlier this year, against veteran Daniel Ponce de Leon -- A bout I believe Russell would have handily won -- he passed.
Gonzalez is an example of the type of guy who deserves a title shot. He went on the road and never took the easy route. Few were expecting him to beat Mares, but he got the opportunity and made something of it.
Golden Boy should at least make Russell face a Top 10 featherweight before giving him the title opportunity. The fans will respect the belts more and, thus, the fighters who own them, if the boxers are forced to defeat deserving opponents in order to earn them.
That seems to be common sense, but the belts are a commodity that make money for promoters. When they get one, they don't often like to give them up. And when they lose one unexpectedly, as Golden Boy did with Mares on Saturday, they want to get it back as quickly as possible.
Boxing is a business, and promoters have to make money to stay afloat. But handing out title shots like they're swag for attending a convention is the quickest way to make a belt meaningless.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/please-king-richard-don-t-reward-gary-russell-043855998.html
After this article was written, he faced a TBA, Lomachenko, another TBA, Gonzalez, and then was scheduled to face ANOTHER TBA until he got hurt in camp
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Tony Harrison?? Dude had about a hunnid amateur fights but I seen from the beginning that kid was full of struggle.
Ok...article from a little over 2 years ago on Russell's fondness for everything TBA
Please, King Richard! Don’t reward Gary Russell Jr. for beating up on TBA so often
By Kevin Iole August 27, 2013 12:38 AM Boxing
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Gary Russell Jr. is an unbeaten featherweight who is one of the most promising fighters in the sport. He may have boxing's fastest hands, and he's developed into a quality overall contender.
But as Steve Jobs used to say, there's one more thing.
And that thing is a doozy. It's so significant, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer shouldn't put him in a title fight against new champion Jhonny Gonzalez, no matter how strong the urge.
The reason? Simple. TBA.
.WBC featherweight champion Jhonny Gonzalez (Getty Images)
TBA seems like it's Russell's most frequent opponent. No elite prospect has had this many free passes this far into his career. Russell (23-0, 13 KOs) rarely fights anyone of note and has regularly feasted upon opponents who are second-tier, at best. He might be good enough to defeat Gonzalez, who stunned Abner Mares to win the WBC belt Saturday in Carson, Calif., with a first-round technical knockout, but that misses the point.
A guy who essentially refuses to face a contender and who hasn't fought anyone of any note as a pro doesn't deserve to be rewarded with a championship match.
Russell defeated Juan Ruiz on Aug. 9 in Indio, Calif., in his last bout. But Ruiz came into the fight having lost six in a row and nine of his last 10. That's not the kind of opponent one should need to beat to make it into a title match.
But King Richard seems ready to anoint Russell as the contender-in-waiting at featherweight. Russell, of course, is promoted by Golden Boy, as is Mares. Golden Boy received three options on Gonzalez when he upset Mares, but Golden Boy isn't his primary promoter. Thus, it's clear that Golden Boy would prefer to get the belt back in its hands.
Gary Russell wants a big fight, that's a big fight. I would love to make that fight, maybe November or December. We'll see when Jhonny wants to fight; we'll talk to his promoter.
Russell hasn't wanted a big fight up to this point in his career. There's little doubt that he'll win one at some point, and he may develop into one of boxing's best overall champions when he finally steps up. Russell is clearly a future star.
Title shots are doled far too easily these days, but this is kind of ridiculous. It only makes sense to force a fighter to face, and defeat, someone a bit tougher than TBA in order to fight for the title.
Russell was a decorated amateur who lost an opportunity to compete in the 2008 Olympics in Beijing when he got ill at the Games. He's been extraordinarily impressive as a pro, albeit against less-than-stellar opposition. And when he was offered a major fight earlier this year, against veteran Daniel Ponce de Leon -- A bout I believe Russell would have handily won -- he passed.
Gonzalez is an example of the type of guy who deserves a title shot. He went on the road and never took the easy route. Few were expecting him to beat Mares, but he got the opportunity and made something of it.
Golden Boy should at least make Russell face a Top 10 featherweight before giving him the title opportunity. The fans will respect the belts more and, thus, the fighters who own them, if the boxers are forced to defeat deserving opponents in order to earn them.
That seems to be common sense, but the belts are a commodity that make money for promoters. When they get one, they don't often like to give them up. And when they lose one unexpectedly, as Golden Boy did with Mares on Saturday, they want to get it back as quickly as possible.
Boxing is a business, and promoters have to make money to stay afloat. But handing out title shots like they're swag for attending a convention is the quickest way to make a belt meaningless.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/please-king-richard-don-t-reward-gary-russell-043855998.html
After this article was written, he faced a TBA, Lomachenko, another TBA, Gonzalez, and then was scheduled to face ANOTHER TBA until he got hurt in camp
nothing that says last minute replacement breh...receipts on TBA = last minute replacement for the new human highlight film