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I agree & it's not a good look for Thurman. Even if comes down to Haymon slowing things up his image took a hit with this. I just want to see this fight bruh

Me too. I wanted to see them get it in as well, but it is what it is. Unless a contract is signed, there is no fight. The Porter's might as well move on and even start calling out Errol Spence or somebody if they want a big fight...or try and enter that WBC Tournament to get the winner of Garcia vs Guerrero.
 

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But that's my point.


Ken Porter had come out and said they had received "reassurance" that Thurman will take a fight with Porter, however, there is no contract to speak of. In my mind, and seeing #1 Haymon Client Floyd pull this exact same thing with Khan, if there is no signed contract....there is no fight.


If there was to really be a fight between the 2, I would think that a contract signed by Thurman and Porter saying that would be laying around somewhere.....and it's not. So in my mind, there is no fight happening:yeshrug:


I hope Im wrong, but so far, there's nothing that says to the contrary:patrice:


To have a signed contract everything has to be set to go. You need venue, date, commission, refs, advertising, tv time and all that. You cannot just give somebody a contract to fight while you're still figuring things out. Unless you wanna be taken to court and cough up money.
 

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My dude said Haymon wanna stack that card and advertise it well. Broner-Porter was not sold well and Haymon doesn't wanna matchup 2 good talents with no buzz but then again there would be no buzz if one side keeps negotiating in the media. My dude said he was at the fight last Saturday and Kenny was acting strange. Maybe he's angry that they don't have a signed contract by now. I mean they could have fought somebody else. But then again you can't blame people when you were told not to negotiate in the media. I wish Porter were with Top Rank instead. Haymon is too lenient and we all know why he can't get too involved all the way in lots of stuff.

Again the Porters need to talk to Haymon and stay off the media.

Makes sense he wants to stack the card & maximize the event. It's not really even Shawn that's been in the media like that; it's his pops & Shawn feeds off that I believe because he's frustrated. Kenny has to stop taking notes from Mayweather Sr. & running his mouth so much.
 

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Me too. I wanted to see them get it in as well, but it is what it is. Unless a contract is signed, there is no fight. The Porter's might as well move on and even start calling out Errol Spence or somebody if they want a big fight...or try and enter that WBC Tournament to get the winner of Garcia vs Guerrero.

I would love to see that. I'd like to see Thurman fight him if he ever reappears :mjlol: I think they're been more spottings of the Loch Ness monster than Thurman lately :troll:
 

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Makes sense he wants to stack the card & maximize the event. It's not really even Shawn that's been in the media like that; it's his pops & Shawn feeds off that I believe because he's frustrated. Kenny has to stop taking notes from Mayweather Sr. & running his mouth so much.


Mayweather Sr earned his right to run his mouth. People wanted to hear him talk. We were all frustrated when HBO didn't let him drop his mixtape on the Floyd Pacman press conference. He has millions of views on YouTube and he had a huge fight with Floyd on 24/7 and people were siding with him.

Kenny Porter is the old dude at the club strawing for attention. He just talks too much and he sounds like he's going off at Haymon. Porter needs to man up and tell his dad to stop talking.
 

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To have a signed contract everything has to be set to go. You need venue, date, commission, refs, advertising, tv time and all that. You cannot just give somebody a contract to fight while you're still figuring things out. Unless you wanna be taken to court and cough up money.

Exactly, and if that hasn't been figured out yet since September.....it aint happening imo:heh:


It's not like they have differing managers/promoters, they have the same exact people. It shouldn't take this long if it was planned to happen, hell it took way less time for Garcia to get Guerrero than it is for Porter to get Thurman....but yet no one even mentions that:wow:


In my mind, Thurman isn't really interested in taking the fight and him and his team are hoping to stall The Porters out....then Thurman will come out of hiding saying "things just didn't work out behind the scenes" or some PR excuse Haymon will give him to protect him:yeshrug:


Im over Thurman vs Porter....Shawn Porter needs to join the WBC Tournament or start calling out Errol Spence, Andre Berto, Chris Algieri, or someone else.:manny:
 

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Mayweather Sr earned his right to run his mouth. People wanted to hear him talk. We were all frustrated when HBO didn't let him drop his mixtape on the Floyd Pacman press conference. He has millions of views on YouTube and he had a huge fight with Floyd on 24/7 and people were siding with him.

Kenny Porter is the old dude at the club strawing for attention. He just talks too much and he sounds like he's going off at Haymon. Porter needs to man up and tell his dad to stop talking.

You're absolutely right. These last couple of interviews you can tell he's throwing darts at Haymon. Shawn is always professional in his interviews & needs to tell his pops to fall back & stay in his lane.
 

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My dude said Haymon wanna stack that card and advertise it well. Broner-Porter was not sold well and Haymon doesn't wanna matchup 2 good talents with no buzz but then again there would be no buzz if one side keeps negotiating in the media. My dude said he was at the fight last Saturday and Kenny was acting strange. Maybe he's angry that they don't have a signed contract by now. I mean they could have fought somebody else. But then again you can't blame people when you were told not to negotiate in the media. I wish Porter were with Top Rank instead. Haymon is too lenient and we all know why he can't get too involved all the way in lots of stuff.

Again the Porters need to talk to Haymon and stay off the media.
I agree with you about the whole not negotiating in the media thing...........but they need to push this shyt. Unless they want their premier talents taking jobber tune ups 2x a year
 

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I would love to see that. I'd like to see Thurman fight him if he ever reappears :mjlol: I think they're been more spottings of the Loch Ness monster than Thurman lately :troll:
Funny how much a lil $$$ changed the lethal lisp
 

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Exactly, and if that hasn't been figured out yet since September.....it aint happening imo:heh:


It's not like they have differing managers/promoters, they have the same exact people. It shouldn't take this long if it was planned to happen, hell it took way less time for Garcia to get Guerrero than it is for Porter to get Thurman....but yet no one even mentions that:wow:


In my mind, Thurman isn't really interested in taking the fight and him and his team are hoping to stall The Porters out....then Thurman will come out of hiding saying "things just didn't work out behind the scenes" or some PR excuse Haymon will give him to protect him:yeshrug:


Im over Thurman vs Porter....Shawn Porter needs to join the WBC Tournament or start calling out Errol Spence, Andre Berto, Chris Algieri, or someone else.:manny:
To me it seems clear that Thurman doesn't want any smoke. Remember when this guy was calling out Paulie and the shyt he was saying :heh: one wicked body shot changes all that huh
 

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You're absolutely right. These last couple of interviews you can tell he's throwing darts at Haymon. Shawn is always professional in his interviews & needs to tell his pops to fall back & stay in his lane.
Pops is his manager, he's working for Shawn shawn wants the fight :yeshrug:

If I were the Porter's I'd be briggs'ing Thurman. Showing up at his doorstep, where he has breakfast. dropping off the milk at his gym etc etc. 'Haymon' isn't working for the fighter here. He shouldn't have to 'lets go champ' its fukkin Keith Thurman not Floyd or wlad or dre or pac man or even fukkin BATB or canelo
 

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Pops is his manager, he's working for Shawn shawn wants the fight :yeshrug:

If I were the Porter's I'd be briggs'ing Thurman. Showing up at his doorstep, where he has breakfast. dropping off the milk at his gym etc etc. 'Haymon' isn't working for the fighter here. He shouldn't have to 'lets go champ' its fukkin Keith Thurman not Floyd or wlad or dre or pac man or even fukkin BATB or canelo

From what we heard Haymon told Thurman to keep quiet & for the Porter's to stop negotiating in the media. The Porter's keep doing what they're doing (I don't blame them either) & we're still in limbo about this fight. Hopefully this gets resolved soon.
 

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Funny how much a lil $$$ changed the lethal lisp
Funny how I also said that paying these nikkas too much money and not fighting the right fights to justify will start to rear its head among the boxers haymon advises
 
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