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[Bruce LeRoy]

Such a great post

Jim Lampley's phantom punches kill me. Nygga will say Fighter A landed a great right hand, that was blocked or completely missed.

Showtime just has more professionalism while HBO takes more of a businesslike approach to sell certain fighters to their audience. There is nothing genuine when it comes to HBO commentating. Those guys are just playing a role. Once I had the opportunity years ago to hear the HBO's staff "real opinion" on boxing, I came to realize they know their shyt & are just playing the game by being company men. You would think the HBO team was dumb as fukk if thats all you had to go by, but being around the game as long as they've had, you surely gonna pick up something.

So guys like Lampley, Kellerman, etc aren't dumb guys. They just play the game & collect the checks.

No one is above criticism especially Haymon and his company... but it irritates me when these cats act objectional but have a clear bias agenda... so you only see criticism gong one way but then they ignore shyt that other promotions do when they are doing the same EXACT shyt.

I got into with corny, clown ass, no lipped, lesbian face Vinny Paz on twitter over HBO bias after the Jacobs/Quillin fight. Dude said the Showtime staff were "Al Haymon minoins"... So I responded by pointing out that he was Steve Kim minion who just repeats the same rhetoric. f-ck that guy..

Doug Fischer is the only one I'll listen to.. he's somewhat biased but he is at least somewhat objectional and he knows alot more than those idiots.

 

[Newzz]

Accomplishment wise, Quillin is better than Murray no doubt. Dude has some solid wins and won a belt even though he doesn't always look spectacular.

but just comparing them as fighters straight up, they about equal with Kid Choc maybe slightly ahead if that. He's definitely not head and shoulders above him.

Murray is sorta like Beltran in a way. A good solid fighter that matches up well with a lot of guys, but lacks the machine or any type of major push behind him so he doesn't get the win in close fights.

On neutral ground, Murray prolly gets wins over Strum and Sergio. Just like if Beltran would have fought Burns over here in the states he would have prolly won that.

Beltran? He's a cheater...who knows how long he was using PEDs.

I wish these guys were forced to take year round, random drug testing by the alphabet organizations in order to be ranked. It's too many cheaters in the game.

 

[patscorpio]

Beltran? He's a cheater...who knows how long he was using PEDs.

I wish these guys were forced to take year round, random drug testing by the alphabet organizations in order to be ranked. It's too many cheaters in the game.

yes breh i too wonder how many fights Andre Berto won while juiced to the gills...aside from the fights of his that went the distance and was gifted on the cards

 

[Newzz]

yes breh i too wonder how many fights Andre Berto won while juiced to the gills...aside from the fights of his that went the distance and was gifted on the cards

It's only fair to think that, because truthfully, I don't think anyone who's been caught using PEDs was caught on their very first time using.

Who truthfully knows how long Berto used? Who knows truthfully how long John ROIDlina was using? Who truthfully knows how long Beltran was using? Etc. And crazy thing about it is, fighters never look the same again after they are caught, so it throws their entire career into legit question if we be honest about it

 

[Axum Ezana]

It's only fair to think that, because truthfully, I don't think anyone who's been caught using PEDs was caught on their very first time using.

Who truthfully knows how long Berto used? Who knows truthfully how long John ROIDlina was using? Who truthfully knows how long Beltran was using? Etc. And crazy thing about it is, fighters never look the same again after they are caught, so it throws their entire career into legit question if we be honest about it

that's why I said that ray beltran might have faced Crawford on roids. craw still didn't get koed though so...

 

[Axum Ezana]

Best I Faced: Azumah Nelson

Azumah Nelson is widely lauded as the greatest African fighter ever.

“The Professor” was a virtual unknown outside of Ghana when, as a late substitute, he gave the legendary Salvador Sanchez hell before being stopped in the final round of their 1982 classic at Madison Square Garden.

The secret was out, though. Nelson would never be underestimated again in a long career that saw him win three world titles in two divisions and go 18-4-2 in world title fights.

Nelson was behind on the cards when he stopped fellow Hall of Famer Wilfredo Gomez in the penultimate round to take Gomez’s WBC featherweight title – Nelson’s first belt – before stunned Puerto Rican fans in San Juan in 1984.

He successfully defended his title six times before moving up to 130 pounds, where he continued to thrive. He narrowly outpointed Mario Martinez to win the vacant WBC title in 1988 and successfully defended 10 times.

During that stretch, Nelson moved up to 135 pounds for one fight to take on Pernell Whitaker but lost a unanimous decision.

In the summer of 1992 Nelson met Jeff Fenech, who was bidding to become a four-weight world champion. They met at the Mirage in Las Vegas on the undercard of Mike Tyson-Razor Ruddock and at the conclusion of the fight, most observers ringside thought Fenech had won. The fight was ruled a draw, however.

The rematch took place nine months later in Australia. This time Nelson scored an eighth-round knockout to retain his title and register THE RING Upset of the Year for 1992.

Nelson-Fenech II (photo: RING Magazine)

Nelson lost his belt to four-fight rival Jesse James Leija by a unanimous decision in 1994 before regaining the WBC title by stopping Gabriel Ruelas, who had taken the title from Leija in 1995 – for which he was awarded THE RING Comeback of the Year. Such was “Zoom Zoom’s” popularity a reported 60,000 were at the airport in Accra to greet him, making the usual 20-minute ride home a six-hour journey. He successfully defended the belt once before losing it to Genaro Hernandez.

Four of Nelson’s final seven fights were against Leija.

“He was great,” Leija said of Nelson. “As long as he was a world champion – 10 years, something like that – he knew every trick in the book. It was always a constant battle with him, more of the mind than anything else because you were going to try to figure out what he’s going to do next. He would lure you into thinking he was hurt or slowing down and all of a sudden he’d throw a four-, five-punch combination, all of them with power.

“You never knew what to expect. You had to be on your toes every single second of every single round with Azumah.”

(Click here to read Jesse James Leija’s “Best I Faced.”)

Nelson was known for his ability to dissect an opponent. After fighting them once, he would improve in the rematch and pick them apart with unerring accuracy.

Nelson (39-6-2, 28 knockouts) “retired” in 1998 after an almost 19-year career and was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 2004. After 10 years away from the ring he returned at 49 years old for a third bout with Fenech and lost a majority decision. He never fought again.

Nelson lives on a farm with his wife, Peggy (he lost his first wife, Beatrice, to cancer when he was 32), and has six children. He has established his own foundation to help underprivileged kids and today remains a revered and celebrated icon in Ghana. He kindly took time to speak about the best fighters he faced in 10 key categories.

BEST JAB

Calvin Grove: He had a good jab. He was a boxer-fighter and could move very well too. He was a champion before we fought.

Nelson-Martinez II (photo: RING Magazine)

BEST DEFENSE

Mario Martinez: I would have to go with Mario “Azabache” Martinez. He would make you think.

BEST CHIN

Juan Laporte: I fought him in Australia. He could certainly take it. He would take it without even shaking.

FASTEST HANDS

Grove: Grove definitely was the fastest of them all. He was fast with both hands. Irving Mitchell had a very quick right hand but Calvin Grove was just quick all around.

FASTEST FEET

Grove: Calvin Grove was also very quick with his feet, which made him a very good boxer overall.

SMARTEST

James James Leija: Most of them were smart … but I would say Jesse James Leija. I liked him so much as a person I could not hurt him. It was as if I would hold back on my punches. I could not execute against the guy for some reason.

STRONGEST

Martinez: I give him a lot of respect. … He would throw a punch and I would feel it in my hand. I would tell myself if that punch landed on my jaw, I would go flat (on my back).

BEST PUNCHER

Laporte: He could punch but was easy to read because I could see the punches coming. That suited me.

BEST SKILLS

Wilfredo Gomez: The Puerto Rican was the best boxer and he could also hit. Also Salvador Sanchez was a good boxer, good movement in and out. Though it must be said I was not ready for (the Sanchez) fight. It could have been different had I been ready. Pernell Whitaker was a very good boxer. At the time I just wanted to finish the fight and leave; my wife was in hospital at the time. I was not focused. That is why I do not talk much about the Whitaker fight.

BEST OVERALL

Martinez: There were quite a few of them but the best of them was Mario “Azabache” Martinez, the Mexican. I fought him twice. He was a good boxer, could read a fight well and knew what to do at the right time. He also had a big punch.

I think he didn't mention sweet pea and sanchez cause they would take up the whole list. so these guys are tryna give other unknown boxers some credit and shine imo. cause we already know about the legends.

some take it as hating though.

 

[Newzz]

that's why I said that ray beltran might have faced Crawford on roids. craw still didn't get koed though so...

"Go with what you know", if Beltran was busted for using PEDs against another opponent after fighting Crawford, why wouldn't he have used it against him? Im sure he was cheating against Bullet Head AND Ricky Burns



That's why I love the Broner vs ROIDlina fight so much, because that bum was legit trying to talk Broner into getting mad and standing and trading with him.....while he was roided up Fortunately, Broner already knew to stay away from him and just stick to outboxing him at a slow pace



He was gonna cheat my nikka straight out of Boxing, because let's be honest, if Broner lost to Molina ESPECIALLY via KO, it was over for him. Same way that bum did the guy in my avi



#BeyBeyKids should still be undefeated

 

[Axum Ezana]

Azumah Nelson vs. Wilfredo Gomez

On December 8th, 1984 at Hiram Bithorn Stadium in San Juan, Puerto Rico, Azumah “The Professor” Nelson, from Accra, Ghana, fought Wilfredo Gomez, from Las Monjas, Puerto Rico, for Gomez’s WBC featherweight title. The Professor was 19-1 going in, his single loss coming at the hands of Salvador Sanchez two years earlier at Madison Square Garden. Gomez was 40-1-1. His only loss was to Salvador Sanchez was well…

 

[Axum Ezana]

On This Day: Juan Manuel Marquez stuns the boxing world as he ices Manny Pacquiao


Jack Webb looks back on the night Juan Manuel Marquez flattened Manny Pacquiao


WHEN Manny Pacquiao – Juan Manuel Marquez IV was announced there was more than just a smidgen of discontent amongst members of the boxing fraternity who felt that the rivalry had been exhausted by the previous 36 rounds between the two living legends. This notion would swiftly be eradicated by rounds 37 to 42 of the tetralogy, which was arguably the best of the bunch. The bout would earn the distinction of ‘Fight of the Year 2012’, but will be forever remembered for one unforgettable and devastating fight-ending right hand at 2 minutes 59 of round six.

The previous three meetings between the pair were incredibly close fights that could have gone either way. Nevertheless, the history books will forever be engrained with two decision victories for Pacquiao and one 12-round draw after all three contests had gone to the judges’ scorecards. The three judges at ringside on December 8 2012 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena would not be needed.

The fight began brightly with Pacquiao’s trademark combinations and hand speed being enough to take the first two rounds on the cards, but the momentum changed in the third as a juggernaut right-hand from Marquez knocked Pacquiao down for the first time in 39 rounds between the pair. The knockdown raised the crowd to its feet and the noise to a near-deafening decibel level. Undeterred by this setback, Pacquiao would recover and throw caution to the wind in round four, waging war with Marquez who was more than willing to engage. Sporting a swelling below his right eye, Marquez was dropped in the fifth by a smooth counter left that levelled the knockdown count at one apiece. Once Marquez was back to his feet, blistering exchanges would follow with both fighters tearing into each other with ferocious and thunderous punching. The sixth round continued where the gruelling fifth had left off – Pacquiao detonating numerous damaging punches as he began to conceivably close in on a stoppage of the brave Marquez. Yet, with one second of the round remaining, Manny’s momentum was about to come to a shuddering halt.

As Pacquiao closed the range, popping out a double left jab, Marquez dipped to his left and exploded with the most destructive of punches to the Filipino’s nose which immediately disconnected Pacquiao from his consciousness. Tris Dixon, at ringside that night, described the game-changer as ‘‘a short, atomic right hand, laced with about five inches of menacing backswing [that] was rammed squarely in Pacquiao’s face’’.

Time stood still as Pacquiao crashed to the floor into a lifeless face-down position, which left referee Kenny Bayless not even needing to administer a count. The fight was over.

Nearly 17,000 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena were silenced for a split second by the dramatic impact of fist on skull before the Mexican hysteria exploded. Mexican fight fans finally had their victory to celebrate over the great Manny Pacquiao and they did so jubilantly. The stark contrast between these scenes and the harrowing pictures of Pacquiao’s distraught wife, Jinkee, on the big screen would go some way to qualifying the colossal significance of Marquez’s historic one-punch knockout.

That night Marquez had his career-defining moment, whilst Pacquiao would be left to decide whether he would extend his lengthy and glorious ring career further or step away from the sport and focus on his demanding congressional vocation. It is testament to Pacquiao’s strength of character and passion for the sport that he chose the former and that now, two years on from his devastating knockout loss to Marquez, boxing fans still clamour for the potentially biggest fight in history between a rejuvenated Pacquiao and still pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr in 2015

 

[Axum Ezana]

'On this day: December 8, 2007 Floyd Mayweather on the Money to KO Ricky Hatton'


There’s only one Ricky Hatton….one Ricky Hatton! Walkin’ along, singin’ a song…walkin’ in a Hatton wonderland!”

Kipling once wrote, “Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the mid day sun.” For Ricky Hatton, December 8 was high noon.

The year was 2007.

From Manchester, England, Hatton (43-0, 31 KOs) had his share of followers jump the pond and land stateside inside the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Their invasion was accompanied by song, drums and an unyielding vocal support for their man.

A sellout crowd of nearly 17,000 fans packed into the MGM to witness two undefeated champions battle for the 147 pound Welterweight crown and pound-for-pound supremacy.

In a bout billed as “Undefeated,” the pre-fight buildup included a five day press tour where the two fighters, a combined 81-0, traveled across the United States and England. HBO, who carried the bout on pay-per-view, provided a four-part 24/7 series, just the second of its kind.

Hatton, 29, was a former three-time champion and recognized by Ring Magazine as the true, 140 pound Junior Lightweight champion. Tonight, he ventured into the 147 Welterweight division to face Floyd “Money” Mayweather.

Living and fighting out of Las Vegas, the 30-year-old Mayweather (38-0, 24 KOs) had captured five titles in five different divisions and was unanimously seen as the pound-for-pound king of the sport.

The contest was largely seen as a fantastic stylistic matchup. Mayweather, the slick boxer and defensive genius, owned an inch-and-a-half height advantage. Hatton was a ferocious body puncher and was known to press hard from the opening bell.

Both were in stupendous condition as Mayweather weighed in right at the 147 pound limit. Hatton had shed his self-imposed alter-ego of Ricky “Fatton” and landed at a rock solid 145 pounds.

Odds makers liked Mayweather and installed him as a solid 2-1 favorite.

Michael Buffer introduced the referee, Joe Cortez, and then the fighters. Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant and Emanuel Steward seated ringside to call the night’s action.

Scheduled for 12 rounds, the opening moments began with Hatton, wearing blue trunks with silver and black trim, moving forward like a locomotive. Knees bent and head bobbing from side to side, Hatton attacked with a ferocity of a hungry lion.

Mayweather, leaning slightly forward while moving slowly backward, looked to defend his small area of turf and counter the onrushing Hatton. The crowd was deafening as a locked and loaded Hatton fired at will while Mayweather fended him off with first class defensive wizardry.

It was clear in the early rounds that the Mayweather hand and foot speed were superior. Outfitted in grey trunks with red trim, the pound-for-pound king was landing straight right hand leads, using his left jab, and popping a left hook into Hatton’s face.

Undaunted, “Hit Man” continued to wrestle and bully Mayweather, desperately trying to get inside and make it a street fight. Although Mayweather looked to be winning the early rounds, the action was fierce and competitive.

Mayweather continued to land sharp right hand leads, one punch at a time, snapping Hatton’s head backward. Hatton continued to respond by firing left jabs and hooks and bullying Mayweather into the ropes. He was connecting and controlling the tempo of the action.

The crowd, clearly pro Hatton, roared anytime their man connected or came close to landing. The Hatton chants continued as the Union Jack was waived and drums were beaten. The atmosphere was electric.

As the two battled at close quarters in Round 3, Hatton began to show battle damage after Mayweather strafed him with another straight right hand. Lampley saw blood, “There’s a cut over Ricky Hatton’s right eye! Big cut. It was a right hand shot.”

Moving into the middle rounds, Hatton continued to maul, grind and pound to Mayweather’s rib cage. The continued grappling cost Hatton in Round 6 as Cortez deducted a point for hitting Mayweather behind the head.

The deduction emboldened Hatton as he attacked with a renewed ferocity, unleashing a furious assault. Merchant observed, “What he’s got to do is not get angry, but get even by trying to win the round, to make it an even round.”

Hatton was making it a war and the action was both competitive and spirited.

By Round 8, Mayweather was beginning to back Hatton up. The constant barrage of counter punches were beginning to take their toll. With less than a minute remaining in the round, he backed Hatton into a corner and unleashed a fusillade of punches. Lampley wailed, “Huge round for Mayweather in the eighth! Mayweather believes he’s got Hatton in big trouble!”

Hatton survived.

Now in Round 10, Hatton continued to advance but was clearly slowing. With one minute gone by, Hatton leaped forward at Mayweather who calmly stepped back and pulled the trigger on a short, crisp left hook. The punch landed flush on Hatton’s jaw as he crashed head first into the corner and then to the canvas where he lay in a heap.

The crowd rose with a thunderous roar as Steward screamed over them, “Check left hook. A check left hook! He never saw it.”

Hatton, ever the warrior, rose to take the standing eight count from Cortez. When the action resumed, Mayweather knew the end was near. He launched an avalanche of punches and, as Hatton crumbled to the mat, the white towel of surrender was launched into the ring from his corner.

Lampley saw the towel hit the canvas as did Hatton, “This fight is over! Floyd Mayweather has a knockout victory of Ricky Hatton!”

Mayweather had brought matters to a close by way of a TKO at 1:35 of Round 10.

With the ring now crowded and Hatton back on his feet, Mayweather made his way to him to offer a hug and a sign of respect to a man who many say brought the best out of him.

After the bout, Mayweather announced his retirement from the sport. The leave of absence would be short lived as he returned 21 months later to meet, and defeat, Juan Manuel Marquez.

Hatton would also return successfully and soon get another crack at the next pound-for-pound titan, Manny Pacquiao. He was stopped, brutally, inside of two rounds

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Beltran? He's a cheater...who knows how long he was using PEDs.

I wish these guys were forced to take year round, random drug testing by the alphabet organizations in order to be ranked. It's too many cheaters in the game.

Beltran being a cheater really wasn't my point breh. Just saying that his career kinda mirrors Murray in certain aspects (losing close decisions)

Nowadays with all the juicing going around, you can't be too sure about anybody's career. That's why you'll never really see me discussing that shyt in here. It's an endless discussion.

 

[Knicksman20]

'On this day: December 8, 2007 Floyd Mayweather on the Money to KO Ricky Hatton'


There’s only one Ricky Hatton….one Ricky Hatton! Walkin’ along, singin’ a song…walkin’ in a Hatton wonderland!”

Kipling once wrote, “Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the mid day sun.” For Ricky Hatton, December 8 was high noon.

The year was 2007.

From Manchester, England, Hatton (43-0, 31 KOs) had his share of followers jump the pond and land stateside inside the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Their invasion was accompanied by song, drums and an unyielding vocal support for their man.

A sellout crowd of nearly 17,000 fans packed into the MGM to witness two undefeated champions battle for the 147 pound Welterweight crown and pound-for-pound supremacy.

In a bout billed as “Undefeated,” the pre-fight buildup included a five day press tour where the two fighters, a combined 81-0, traveled across the United States and England. HBO, who carried the bout on pay-per-view, provided a four-part 24/7 series, just the second of its kind.

Hatton, 29, was a former three-time champion and recognized by Ring Magazine as the true, 140 pound Junior Lightweight champion. Tonight, he ventured into the 147 Welterweight division to face Floyd “Money” Mayweather.

Living and fighting out of Las Vegas, the 30-year-old Mayweather (38-0, 24 KOs) had captured five titles in five different divisions and was unanimously seen as the pound-for-pound king of the sport.

The contest was largely seen as a fantastic stylistic matchup. Mayweather, the slick boxer and defensive genius, owned an inch-and-a-half height advantage. Hatton was a ferocious body puncher and was known to press hard from the opening bell.

Both were in stupendous condition as Mayweather weighed in right at the 147 pound limit. Hatton had shed his self-imposed alter-ego of Ricky “Fatton” and landed at a rock solid 145 pounds.

Odds makers liked Mayweather and installed him as a solid 2-1 favorite.

Michael Buffer introduced the referee, Joe Cortez, and then the fighters. Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant and Emanuel Steward seated ringside to call the night’s action.

Scheduled for 12 rounds, the opening moments began with Hatton, wearing blue trunks with silver and black trim, moving forward like a locomotive. Knees bent and head bobbing from side to side, Hatton attacked with a ferocity of a hungry lion.

Mayweather, leaning slightly forward while moving slowly backward, looked to defend his small area of turf and counter the onrushing Hatton. The crowd was deafening as a locked and loaded Hatton fired at will while Mayweather fended him off with first class defensive wizardry.

It was clear in the early rounds that the Mayweather hand and foot speed were superior. Outfitted in grey trunks with red trim, the pound-for-pound king was landing straight right hand leads, using his left jab, and popping a left hook into Hatton’s face.

Undaunted, “Hit Man” continued to wrestle and bully Mayweather, desperately trying to get inside and make it a street fight. Although Mayweather looked to be winning the early rounds, the action was fierce and competitive.

Mayweather continued to land sharp right hand leads, one punch at a time, snapping Hatton’s head backward. Hatton continued to respond by firing left jabs and hooks and bullying Mayweather into the ropes. He was connecting and controlling the tempo of the action.

The crowd, clearly pro Hatton, roared anytime their man connected or came close to landing. The Hatton chants continued as the Union Jack was waived and drums were beaten. The atmosphere was electric.

As the two battled at close quarters in Round 3, Hatton began to show battle damage after Mayweather strafed him with another straight right hand. Lampley saw blood, “There’s a cut over Ricky Hatton’s right eye! Big cut. It was a right hand shot.”

Moving into the middle rounds, Hatton continued to maul, grind and pound to Mayweather’s rib cage. The continued grappling cost Hatton in Round 6 as Cortez deducted a point for hitting Mayweather behind the head.

The deduction emboldened Hatton as he attacked with a renewed ferocity, unleashing a furious assault. Merchant observed, “What he’s got to do is not get angry, but get even by trying to win the round, to make it an even round.”

Hatton was making it a war and the action was both competitive and spirited.

By Round 8, Mayweather was beginning to back Hatton up. The constant barrage of counter punches were beginning to take their toll. With less than a minute remaining in the round, he backed Hatton into a corner and unleashed a fusillade of punches. Lampley wailed, “Huge round for Mayweather in the eighth! Mayweather believes he’s got Hatton in big trouble!”

Hatton survived.

Now in Round 10, Hatton continued to advance but was clearly slowing. With one minute gone by, Hatton leaped forward at Mayweather who calmly stepped back and pulled the trigger on a short, crisp left hook. The punch landed flush on Hatton’s jaw as he crashed head first into the corner and then to the canvas where he lay in a heap.

The crowd rose with a thunderous roar as Steward screamed over them, “Check left hook. A check left hook! He never saw it.”

Hatton, ever the warrior, rose to take the standing eight count from Cortez. When the action resumed, Mayweather knew the end was near. He launched an avalanche of punches and, as Hatton crumbled to the mat, the white towel of surrender was launched into the ring from his corner.

Lampley saw the towel hit the canvas as did Hatton, “This fight is over! Floyd Mayweather has a knockout victory of Ricky Hatton!”

Mayweather had brought matters to a close by way of a TKO at 1:35 of Round 10.

With the ring now crowded and Hatton back on his feet, Mayweather made his way to him to offer a hug and a sign of respect to a man who many say brought the best out of him.

After the bout, Mayweather announced his retirement from the sport. The leave of absence would be short lived as he returned 21 months later to meet, and defeat, Juan Manuel Marquez.

Hatton would also return successfully and soon get another crack at the next pound-for-pound titan, Manny Pacquiao. He was stopped, brutally, inside of two rounds

That was a good day to be posting on that cesspool site boxingscene. For years guys like @Cole Cash & me were telling these clowns Mayweather would expose him. I made those guys mad because I started calling him Ricky Flattened

 

[Black_Jesus]

Could Thurman be Mayweather's next opponent.. and could that be the reason he's been so silent?

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Could Thurman be Mayweather's next opponent.. and could that be the reason he's been so silent?

I always wanted to see that fight, but Thurman needs some bigger names on his resume to really make that shyt into an event.

 

[Newzz]

Could Thurman be Mayweather's next opponent.. and could that be the reason he's been so silent?

Word from Raging Babe was Thurman still has yet to sign a contract to face Showtime Porter too though