What's up Bread? I just read an article in which Oscar De La Hoya said that Canelo should fight GGG in 12-18 months to let the fight marinate. Do you agree with this? It also seems that there will be an issue in regards to weight since both guys (Cotto and Canelo) seem reluctant to face anyone at the full middleweight limit much less Golovkin. Do you think GGG should be willing to fight below 160 to make the fight happen? Also many critics point to his PPV sales (or lack thereof) as a reason for the Canelo-Cotto winner to either completely dictate terms or avoid the fight altogether. I think that is a lame excuse though because the only PPV headliners in the game besides Floyd (at least semi-retired) and Manny (one fight from retirement) are Canelo, Cotto (about a year from retirement), Golovkin, and possibly Kovalev with the right opponent. To me that puts GGG at the sport's upper echelon as far as drawing power and i don't see a more lucrative option for Cotto and Canelo other than a rematch or trilogy (or the unlikely scenario of a Floyd rematch). Sorry for the lengthy email but it bothers me when i hear the "he's not a draw" excuse about a guy who just headlined his first PPV. William in West Palm
Bread’s Response: I don’t know what agreements Golden Boy made with the WBC in order to get the fight….As far as building up the fight. Without any legal obligations being involved I think Canelo has a right to make a voluntary defense. But after that he needs to fight GGG. The middleweight champion whoever it has been has been ducking the man long enough. Enough is enough. Canelo can actually get some things done vs GGG. We all know Canelo struggles to make 154. He hasn’t made it since 2013. The next division up is 160. If Roberto Duran who started his career as small as he did could fight Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns and Iran Barkley all at the weight limits, Canelo can surely fight GGG at 160. I don’t think GGG should compromise his health or his performance level to fight a man who holds the middleweight title at any weight below 160lbs. People say he can make 154lbs. I say if he could make it he would have made it. Just because he stays low in camp doesn’t mean he can make 154 and be effective. It means he’s a dedicated athlete who understands cutting weight is dangerous, so he manages his weight well.
Hey Breadman, I know you don’t comment much on MMA, but I wanted to get your thoughts on the Ronday Rousey hype, and the fact that her first loss was so highly publicized. It mixes well with boxing since Rousey was featured on the cover of The Ring magazine. Not too long ago, Floyd Mayweather got a lot of grief for fighting Berto on PPV. Meanwhile Rousey was being touted as the most dominant athlete alive, and comparisons to Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson were made regarding her invincibility and dominance. That is, after only 14 fights, most of whom were fought against competition nobody ever heard of. Contrast that to Mayweather-Berto. At least Berto was a professional fighter with lots of fighting experience. As it turns out, the first time Rousey fought a fighter with skills, she lost. And it is being featured among the all-time great upsets, along the line of Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas. The same Mike Tyson who won the heavyweight championship at age 20 and had racked up a record of 37-0 against several former world champions and an Olympic gold medalist. I would think a little perspective is in order and this shows the height of hyping up an unproven fighter (in Ronda Rousey). Also, and here is where it gets interesting: your thoughts on a boxer beating a seemingly invincible MMA fighter with a judo background. James Toney didn’t do all that well in the Octagon. Will this inspire more boxers to try their hand in MMA? Lastly: the cruiserweight version of Holyfield vs Rocky Marciano – who do you have winning that fight?
Bread’s Response: I think the UFC may get more female boxers because the platform is different. But there is no reason for male elite level boxers to fight in the UFC. It takes away their skill level. In a street fight if a guy can box better than you, you grab or kick him. In a boxing ring you can’t grab or kick. In the UFC you can. There is no reason for a great, relevant boxer to get involved in the UFC, Only marginal talents or veterans who are well past it…. As for Rousey’s star level, well she deserved some of the accolades. She was the most dominant fighter in the UFC and she’s reasonably good looking. Sure they added some sauce to her and made her into a big star but that’s what a promoter is supposed to do. The girl was delivering in the ring. I don’t watch the UFC but I have seen the results of her fights. She was dominant. And as far as I know 90% of the public and media were picking her to win this last fight she lost….She wasn’t an unproven talent. She was a world champion in her sport. Just because we don’t know her competition that doesn’t mean they weren’t worthy. It could very well mean we just don’t know them. I want to add. I know Rousey was a little cocky. But the worst thing about combat sports are the a$$hole trolls who troll social media. I have never saw so many cruel memes mocking Rousey’s ko. And before anyone says she got what she deserved because she was cocky and outspoken. I would agree but the trolls did the same thing to Manny Pacquiao and he’s humble and soft spoken. We just live in a shytty time where regular people get to mock and insult more popular and successful people.
Evander Holyfield was my favorite fighter after Ray Leonard stepped away from the sport. I have never rooted for a fighter so hard. I have watched Holyfield’s entire reign at Crusierweight. He probably entered in his prime in his 2nd fight with Dwight Qawi. I don’t know if any man in history can deal with him hovering around 190lbs. Ezzard Charles, Gene Tunney, Sam Langford, Jack Dempsey, Joe Walcott and of course Rocky Marciano are among a select few who could rumble Holyfield near that weight. I am a huge fan of Rocky Marciano and in a p4p sense he’s one of our better heavyweight champions. He’s a brutal, heavy puncher. He has some of the strongest legs ever. He rolls shots and stays at an angle as good as any shorter fighter I have ever seen. He’s also dead game and indefatigable. This fight would be a blockbuster. Most would assume that Holyfield outboxes him and I can’t say I disagree with that. But I think he would have holy hell on his hands. In a 15 rounder I say he ekes it out like he did Qawi in their first fight but man o man would he have to earn it. Marciano is nothing to play with.
Cotto vs Canelo. Who and Why?
Bread’s Response: I love it straight and to the point. I have Canelo. But it’s not because I think Cotto’s reemergence is weak. He sparked Delvin Rodriguez. After Cotto, Rodriguez went 12 rounds with Erislandy Lara. He sparked Daniel Geale in the same fashion GGG did. He sparked Sergio Martinez. I’m tired of hearing about Martinez’s knee. Martinez wasn’t limping when he walked in the ring. No one lese knocked him around like that. Last time I checked Martinez was the favorite. I think Cotto’s run is legit. Cotto could very well win this fight and the more I think about it it’s really a 50/50 fight. But I lean Canelo because although Cotto is rejuvenated I don’t believe his skin and scar tissue is. I think Canelo is going to bust Cotto up. I think this fight will be a high contact boxing match. With lots of violence and skill. With both guys getting their pounds of flesh. But Canelo’s fans will be louder, he will draw more blood and at times Cotto will look like he’s running instead of boxing. Because of this I think Canelo will get more credit from the judges. I think Cotto’s great jab carries the day early with Canelo’s combination punching coming on midway through. This fight will close and controversial. I say Vegas likes Canelo a little bit more.