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[krackdagawd]

Danny takes a highlight reel beating from Manny breh PED footwork had him like Counter punchers give him problems, elite counter punchers. That aint Danny.

 

[Newzz]

thats not a triangle theory imo.

im just comparing two guys skill level.

tri theory is when both have fought same guy and im using that guy to prop up jmm imo

im just saying jmm is a better skilled guy than garcia...thats all. its a fact.

I mean, Juan Manuel Marquez is more technically skilled, yes, but it had nothing to do with nothing breh


He was also more "technically skilled" then Timothy Bradley....and he lost.

plus u tried to compare khan n pac speed...as if they are the same level of fighter .

No, I was comparing their speed. Khan is just as fast (or faster) than Manny Pacquiao is.

so im finished cause ill bet real money that pac makes garcia look stupid and wins easily .

I'll take that bet. Win "easily" is a 12-0, 11-1, 10-2 type victory

You wanna make that bet?

 

[Newzz]

Maybe maybe not.. lets keep it all the wat trill though.. Are we even confident Danny can even beat a Algieri or Rios? im not...

Yes & Yes.

As far as Pac fighting those two.. Rios was only because he was coming off a KO loss and needed a tune up.. Algieri was undefeated champ at 140 and we needed somebody after Floyd, Maidana, Khan, and JMM turned down the offer... sometimes if plan A dont work gotta go with plan B.. that dont work.. plan C and so forth.. Its not like the great Floyd Mayweather.. who has access to all of the top5 welterweights in the division to pick from then he skips the whole top 10 and picks from the top 20 choosing Josesito Lopez leftovers

The obligatory shot at Floyd

 

[Newzz]

True. However, 2 things lead me to believe it could possibly happen.

1) If you remember, GGG's trainer Abel Sanchez said that GGG's promoter Tom Loeffler offered him Lara (and Sergio Mora, who is also a Haymon fighter) as an option to fight next (to which Sanchez turned down). The fact that Loeffler even offer those fights leads me to believe that HBO already gave the green light. Otherwise, what would be the point of offering those fights if they wouldn't get approved?

2) Lara has an ace in the hole: he is the 154 WBA champ. The same organization in which GGG has a belt for. If Lara moves up to 160, he can petition for the WBA to move his mandatory over from 154 to 160. Or at the very least he can petition them to give him a high ranking, so that he can fight in an eliminator to make himself the #1 contender for GGG's title at 160.

Not saying Lara vs GGG will definitely happen, but I think it's much more possible than any of us believe it to be

Good points breh

 

[Newzz]

Jermall Charlo has a bullseye on his back...both Julian Williams & Austin Trout want him



JULIAN WILLIAMS TRAINER, STEPHEN EDWARDS, TALKS POTENTIAL JERMALL CHARLO CLASH: "WE DOWN...WE WILL GO TO HOUSTON"
By Percy Crawford | September 28, 2015

STEPHEN EDWARDS ON POTENTIAL JULIAN WILLIAMS VS. JERMALL CHARLO CLASH:

Jermall and Julian is cool. I like Ronnie. We've seen each other on a lot of these cards. Julian is cool with both Charlo brothers and I like both of them. Julian said to me, 'Yo, listen, if you cool with somebody, y'all can help each other get some money. We can get paid together. Jermall is the champ. I don't think he deserved a title shot before I did, but nevertheless, he got a title shot, so I'll go to Houston and fight him. I respect the fact that he's a champion. I beat him, he can come to Philly and fight me.' He just has an old school mentality. Bernard Hopkins went to Ecuador to fight Segundo Mercado. James Toney went to Iowa to fight Michael Nunn and Marvin Hagler went on the road to fight Alan Minter and came to Philly to fight a bunch of killers. And for some reason, Julian don't have the red carpet rolled out for him. He gets treated real good, but there are other guys who get opportunities before him, so he just feel like if he could beat Jermall in Houston, then what kind of statement would that be about me being a killer amongst killers in this era. Like I said, I'm not going to hold him back. He feels like they could make some money together. It ain't personal, but, you know, it's funny Perc because he got a lot of respect for Jermall. He thinks he's a big puncher and he picked him to beat K9, but it's just certain things that he sees in him.

Fighter's look at fights different than people who analyze a fight. Fighters are a little bit more dismissive. So whenever Julian say something about a fighter, I take heave to it. And it's really, really crazy because he told me he was going to knock out Cuello in one. And he's always been like, "Man, Jermall can punch," and I'm not going to say exactly what he said because I don't want to tip off the game plan, but he's always known he could beat him. I swear he's always said he knows he's big, he knows he could punch, but he always felt he could beat him. And he told me how and I actually agree with him. And he's always said, "If I ever fight Austin Trout, I'm knocking him out." He told me that he would knock out Austin Trout when he fought on Austin Trout's undercard in San Antonio when Trout fought Canelo. He's always said it. He just said it under his breath like, "I'm telling you, I'll beat him right now." Back then, I said, "Julian, you gotta wait your turn." I think it's his turn. He's always seen something. Listen, he don't have no picks. Those are just the two guys that we keep hearing their names. A lot of people are whispering, everybody that works with Mr. Haymon, because we all work with the same staff, a lot of people are like, "Man, Julian and Jermall is the fight. Those are the two best guys that we have at 54. That's going to be the fight." Julian feels Jermall can't beat him. He don't know why everyone keeps thinking that's the fight. He told me, "I'm going to knock Jermall out." He's always told me that. I'm not going to hold him back, Perc. I told him, if you say you would go to Houston and fight this kid, then you gotta understand that he may call your bluff and say bring your ass to Houston. And Julian says, "I don't give a fukk. The people in Houston can't help him. And if I win, that mean I could fight my fights in Philly and be shotcalling. I don't care about going to Houston. I want the whole crowd to be against me." It's weird because the more people that's against him and pick against him, he use everything as fuel. He likes people picking guys against him. A reporter called me the other day and said, "Trout's too big of a step." I told Julian that and he said, "Let's go back in the gym and start working on some southpaw tactics."

I made him take a couple of days off. Even though the fight was easy, the camp was really grueling. He loves the negativity. He loves the fact that The Ring has Jermall ranked one over him. He thrives off of being the guy being overlooked. So if Jermall calls up Mr. Haymon and asked for us to come to Houston because he's going to call Julian's bluff, we going to Houston, Perc. That's real rap. It's up to Jermall because Julian has already told me that he wants to do it. I already let Mr. Haymon know that we down to do it. If Jermall wants it, we will go to Houston and fight for the IBF title. I think it would be a great fight. I got a lot of respect for Jermall and Ronnie Shields. I know they are going to put together a great game plan. They have seen Julian fight a bunch of times and we would have our work cut out for us. But the best soldiers are volunteers. Nobody wants to fight a 6'1" super middleweight that just knocked out K9. Jermall is going to be a super middleweight one day. He just knocked K9's head off. People usually don't call guys out like that, but for some reason, Julian don't care, man. We can rock and roll. If they want it, we could do it next. I'm not saying Jermall ducking him or scared, but I'm telling you we down to go. We going to make it easy. We willing to go to the guy's hometown. He's making the most money. It's up to him if he want to take the fight, and if not, we'll move on to somebody else.


JULIAN WILLIAMS TRAINER, STEPHEN EDWARDS, TALKS POTENTIAL JERMALL CHARLO CLASH: "WE DOWN...WE WILL GO TO HOUSTON" || FIGHTHYPE.COM




[VIDEO] AUSTIN TROUT TO JERMALL CHARLO: "I WANT THAT BELT...I'M COMING FOR THE BELT" || FIGHTHYPE.COM


"I want a title...my man Charlo just won that belt...that's who I'm eyeing right now, so hopefully me and Charlo can get it in for that belt he just won...the dues have been paid on and off the screen," stated former world champion Austin Trout, who made it clear that he's gunning for a title shot against champion Jermall Charlo in his next bout. Check it out!








I'd welcome either fight....prefer Julian Williams vs Jermall Charlo though

 

[THE MACHINE]

You think the much smaller Pacquiao will be able to walk Danny Garcia down?


Don't forget, Lamont PEDerson is 5'9 w/ a 72'' reach.....and was a Super Middleweight in the ring (he rehydrated to 165 lbs on fight night)

Pacquiao has beaten better opponents on his way to fights, surely he could get the W against #giftset

 

[Newzz]

Pacquiao has beaten better opponents on his way to fights, surely he could get the W against #giftset

That's cool. Too bad Bob Arum isn't as confident as yall are

 

[TheNig]

If Khan gets the Pac fight N loses he's out of the WBC top rankings

Porter beats One Time he's off the rankings cuz he got a belt....Porter loses he drops in the rankings

That leaves Swift vs

4 .- Antonin Decarie (Canada)
5 .- Marcos Maidana (Argentina)

They'll pay off the Canadian N well get Swift vs Maidanabean for the WBC Welterweight Championship of the world

I wouldn't mind that fight at all

I thought I read some shyt where fat boy said he was moving to 154 anyway.

 

[TheNig]

I've had no reason to defend my boy becuz he's taken some serious Ls. But Gift aint beating no Manny bruh. It aint happening. He slow as fukk, can't get around the ring becuz his footwork is cheeks, and outside of that bullshyt left hook that PED was laughing at, he aint got no other punches. I'm not even gonna get into how shytty he is defensively. But he is pretty shytty defensively.

I think Angel throws in the towel to save his boy by the 8th round.

 

[qwicknezz]

Jermall Charlo has a bullseye on his back...both Julian Williams & Austin Trout want him



JULIAN WILLIAMS TRAINER, STEPHEN EDWARDS, TALKS POTENTIAL JERMALL CHARLO CLASH: "WE DOWN...WE WILL GO TO HOUSTON"
By Percy Crawford | September 28, 2015

STEPHEN EDWARDS ON POTENTIAL JULIAN WILLIAMS VS. JERMALL CHARLO CLASH:

Jermall and Julian is cool. I like Ronnie. We've seen each other on a lot of these cards. Julian is cool with both Charlo brothers and I like both of them. Julian said to me, 'Yo, listen, if you cool with somebody, y'all can help each other get some money. We can get paid together. Jermall is the champ. I don't think he deserved a title shot before I did, but nevertheless, he got a title shot, so I'll go to Houston and fight him. I respect the fact that he's a champion. I beat him, he can come to Philly and fight me.' He just has an old school mentality. Bernard Hopkins went to Ecuador to fight Segundo Mercado. James Toney went to Iowa to fight Michael Nunn and Marvin Hagler went on the road to fight Alan Minter and came to Philly to fight a bunch of killers. And for some reason, Julian don't have the red carpet rolled out for him. He gets treated real good, but there are other guys who get opportunities before him, so he just feel like if he could beat Jermall in Houston, then what kind of statement would that be about me being a killer amongst killers in this era. Like I said, I'm not going to hold him back. He feels like they could make some money together. It ain't personal, but, you know, it's funny Perc because he got a lot of respect for Jermall. He thinks he's a big puncher and he picked him to beat K9, but it's just certain things that he sees in him.

Fighter's look at fights different than people who analyze a fight. Fighters are a little bit more dismissive. So whenever Julian say something about a fighter, I take heave to it. And it's really, really crazy because he told me he was going to knock out Cuello in one. And he's always been like, "Man, Jermall can punch," and I'm not going to say exactly what he said because I don't want to tip off the game plan, but he's always known he could beat him. I swear he's always said he knows he's big, he knows he could punch, but he always felt he could beat him. And he told me how and I actually agree with him. And he's always said, "If I ever fight Austin Trout, I'm knocking him out." He told me that he would knock out Austin Trout when he fought on Austin Trout's undercard in San Antonio when Trout fought Canelo. He's always said it. He just said it under his breath like, "I'm telling you, I'll beat him right now." Back then, I said, "Julian, you gotta wait your turn." I think it's his turn. He's always seen something. Listen, he don't have no picks. Those are just the two guys that we keep hearing their names. A lot of people are whispering, everybody that works with Mr. Haymon, because we all work with the same staff, a lot of people are like, "Man, Julian and Jermall is the fight. Those are the two best guys that we have at 54. That's going to be the fight." Julian feels Jermall can't beat him. He don't know why everyone keeps thinking that's the fight. He told me, "I'm going to knock Jermall out." He's always told me that. I'm not going to hold him back, Perc. I told him, if you say you would go to Houston and fight this kid, then you gotta understand that he may call your bluff and say bring your ass to Houston. And Julian says, "I don't give a fukk. The people in Houston can't help him. And if I win, that mean I could fight my fights in Philly and be shotcalling. I don't care about going to Houston. I want the whole crowd to be against me." It's weird because the more people that's against him and pick against him, he use everything as fuel. He likes people picking guys against him. A reporter called me the other day and said, "Trout's too big of a step." I told Julian that and he said, "Let's go back in the gym and start working on some southpaw tactics."

I made him take a couple of days off. Even though the fight was easy, the camp was really grueling. He loves the negativity. He loves the fact that The Ring has Jermall ranked one over him. He thrives off of being the guy being overlooked. So if Jermall calls up Mr. Haymon and asked for us to come to Houston because he's going to call Julian's bluff, we going to Houston, Perc. That's real rap. It's up to Jermall because Julian has already told me that he wants to do it. I already let Mr. Haymon know that we down to do it. If Jermall wants it, we will go to Houston and fight for the IBF title. I think it would be a great fight. I got a lot of respect for Jermall and Ronnie Shields. I know they are going to put together a great game plan. They have seen Julian fight a bunch of times and we would have our work cut out for us. But the best soldiers are volunteers. Nobody wants to fight a 6'1" super middleweight that just knocked out K9. Jermall is going to be a super middleweight one day. He just knocked K9's head off. People usually don't call guys out like that, but for some reason, Julian don't care, man. We can rock and roll. If they want it, we could do it next. I'm not saying Jermall ducking him or scared, but I'm telling you we down to go. We going to make it easy. We willing to go to the guy's hometown. He's making the most money. It's up to him if he want to take the fight, and if not, we'll move on to somebody else.


JULIAN WILLIAMS TRAINER, STEPHEN EDWARDS, TALKS POTENTIAL JERMALL CHARLO CLASH: "WE DOWN...WE WILL GO TO HOUSTON" || FIGHTHYPE.COM




[VIDEO] AUSTIN TROUT TO JERMALL CHARLO: "I WANT THAT BELT...I'M COMING FOR THE BELT" || FIGHTHYPE.COM


"I want a title...my man Charlo just won that belt...that's who I'm eyeing right now, so hopefully me and Charlo can get it in for that belt he just won...the dues have been paid on and off the screen," stated former world champion Austin Trout, who made it clear that he's gunning for a title shot against champion Jermall Charlo in his next bout. Check it out!








I'd welcome either fight....prefer Julian Williams vs Jermall Charlo though

I think charlo would beat trout pretty easily... Charlo vs Williams would be a 50/50 fight, I'd lean towards Williams tho.

 

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[Yuzo]

you cant stand in front of pacquiao with no head movement. pacquiao can mesmerize you with that bouncing movement he likes to use to steal you with that short quick left hand. he throws it from the same motion and that makes it hard to time it. it comes out of nowhere when he is showing you that bouncing movement and he is always showing you that bouncing movement. you get hit by it over and over or you get froze out of a fight trying not to get hit by it over and over.

pacquiao pecks you death with this punch. you cant stand in front of pacquiao with no head movement and danny garcia has no head movement.

 

[TheNig]

you cant stand in front of pacquiao with no head movement. pacquiao can mesmerize you with that bouncing movement he likes to use to steal you with that short quick left hand. he throws it from the same motion and that makes it hard to time it. it comes out of nowhere when he is showing you that bouncing movement and he is always showing you that bouncing movement. you get hit by it over and over or you get froze out of a fight trying not to get hit by it over and over.

pacquiao pecks you death with this punch. you cant stand in front of pacquiao with no head movement and danny garcia has no head movement.

Damn that's beautfiul.

 

[krackdagawd]

I've had no reason to defend my boy becuz he's taken some serious Ls. But Gift aint beating no Manny bruh. It aint happening. He slow as fukk, can't get around the ring becuz his footwork is cheeks, and outside of that bullshyt left hook that PED was laughing at, he aint got no other punches. I'm not even gonna get into how shytty he is defensively. But he is pretty shytty defensively.

I think Angel throws in the towel to save his boy by the 8th round.

I think he has a good straight right hand and has improved his defense but yeah that's jumping into the deep end against Manny. He would get fukked up.

 

[krackdagawd]

you cant stand in front of pacquiao with no head movement. pacquiao can mesmerize you with that bouncing movement he likes to use to steal you with that short quick left hand. he throws it from the same motion and that makes it hard to time it. it comes out of nowhere when he is showing you that bouncing movement and he is always showing you that bouncing movement. you get hit by it over and over or you get froze out of a fight trying not to get hit by it over and over.

pacquiao pecks you death with this punch. you cant stand in front of pacquiao with no head movement and danny garcia has no head movement.

The gawd himself had spoken

Breh I peeped the improvement in @PJTech that boy looking smooth out here from your tips