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Dan Rafael chat wrap 9/25:

- The Wlad vs. Fury fight will be postponed due to Wlad's injury (torn calf muscle). Guessing it takes place early December.
- Was told by a superb source that Mayweather-Berto will not reach 450k buys.
- If Trout and J-Rock want to make a fight it will be easy to make, since they are both with Haymon. Hopefully late 2015/early 2016.
- Guys who stay in great shape year round? Klitschko, Hopkins, Ward, Mayweather, Joshua, Thurman, Wilder, GGG, Bradley and many others.
- Voted Canelo number 10 in the PFP rankings. Has Klitschko number 1 (was number 2, but Mayweather retired), followed by: 2. Ward, 3. GGG, 4. Kovalev, 5. Pacquiao.
- Ward will likely be on the Canelo-Cotto undercard.
- Wants to see Spence vs. a credible 147 lb'er. Doesn't need to be a top fighter yet, but a quality fighter. Vasquez would be a good opponent. Spence may be the best prospect in boxing.
- Could see Spence vs. Thurman or Porter in the future. Both fights Spence could win.
- Really wants to see Matthysse vs. Crawford. Crawford is more skilled, but Matthysse is a relentless puncher.
- Oscar Valdez is a few fights away from a title shot.
- Doubts Malignaggi has another title shot left in him.
- Believed Lemieux beat Joan Alcine.
- Believes Maidana will fight at either 147 or 154 based on where he gets the most money.
- In his prime RJJ would have handled both Tarver and Glen Johnson with ease.
- Pryor vs. JCC at 140? JCC (sr).
- What grade would he give the GGG-Lemieux undercard? B+.
- Khan should fight Manny before rematching Garcia. Better money. Arum says Khan is the frontrunner to be Manny's next opponent.
- TR had mentioned Walters fighting Gamboa next, but that is off. Opponent is TBA.
- Abraham and Hopkins are talking a lot about having a fight in the US, likely in Feb. or March. Gives Hopkins a very good chance to win that fight.
- Gonzalez will not be Beterbiev's next opponent.
- To him Centeno lost vs. J-Rock. He was getting crushed and his cut was not very big. In his eyes he quit because he knew he was going to lose.
- More people doubt Cotto would take a GGG fight than Canelo.
- 99.999% of people believe Mayweather will be back.
- Kassi is a good opponent for Breazeale.
- December 5 on Showtime: Quillin vs. Jacobs.
- Doesn't get the constant mismatches PBC shows. They do show a lot of good fights, but also a lot of mismatches.
- PBC does not market their fighters with a long term plan or storyline (except Quillin-Jacobs). Everything seems to be a one-off.
- Biggest boxing promotional company? PBC (de facto).
- Prime Tszyu vs. Mayweather? Mayweather (despite Tszyu being one of his favorite fighters).
- Chudinov vs. Buglioni is a weirdly interesting fight. Chudinov by KO.
- GGG did not duck Andre Ward. Ward saying that is incorrect.
- Jermain Taylor does not have a fight scheduled (and hopefully never will).
- Tayler a HOF'er? No chance.
- Higher ranking all-time HW, Vitali or Wlad? Wlad.
- Estrada vs. Marquez? Always liked Marquez. He will give a good fight, but Estrada is too skilled at this point.
- Chocolatito vs. Carbajal, Chiquita, or Lopez? He would be competitive in all of them.
- Better career: Ricky Burns or Nathan Cleverly? Burns.
- Horrible NBC/PBC production moment when they stopped showing the Centeno fight with 2 rounds to go.
- Fastest hands in boxing? Maybe GRJ.
- Stevenson and Kovalev's teams should just shut up and make the fight.
- You know Wilder's opponent is bad when the advertising doesn't even mention him.
- Prime Pavlik vs. GGG? GGG by late stoppage.
- TR tried to make Lomachenko vs. Rigo, but Rigo's money demands killed the fight.
- Loma vs. Rigo? Lomachenko. Bigger, stronger, better.
- Has not heard Lomachenko talk about rematching Salido.
- Frampton's team is insisting they deserve 60% of the purse vs. Quigg. Dan agrees that Frampton has the real title, is the bigger draw and generates more money.
- Spoke with Paul Williams recently and he seemed in good spirits. Says he is going to the gym and working with younger fighters. He was a real fighter. Fought Margarito when no one wanted to and took Sergio on short notice.
- Best up and coming HW? Joshua. Joshua by KO over Whyte.
- Margarito does not have any more high level boxing left in him (if he comes back).
- 10 years ago he would have been very skeptical of what Wlad has done post Peters. A credit to his determination.
- Believes an active champion should fight 3 times a year (or more).
- Would love to see Pacquiao vs. Matthysse.
- GRJ vs. Escandon is no longer taking place Oct. 24. Likely will be rescheduled in December.
- Showtime could still possibly put on Brook-Chaves.
- ESPN and Spike have the two best PBC broadcasts.
- 122 would be a real stretch for Chocolatito. When he met him in person he is very naturally small.
- Funniest fighter he has interviewed? Rahman, Wlad, Hopkins.
- Roger's health was part of the reason Floyd switched back to Floyd Sr. training him.
- He he had one vote for the HOF, Ward or Froch? Ward, easily.
- Tim Bradley HOF'er? Probably.
 
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- Really wants to see Matthysse vs. Crawford. Crawford is more skilled, but Matthysse is a relentless puncher.
on my wishlist for 2016
- Believed Lemieux beat Joan Alcine.
:russ: fukk outta here :camby:..alcine shouldn't even have been standing with his chinny self

- Doesn't get the constant mismatches PBC shows. They do show a lot of good fights, but also a lot of mismatches.
that matchmaking i keep bringing up

- Fastest hands in boxing? Maybe GRJ.
quoted for emphasis :myman:..the new human highlight film

- Spoke with Paul Williams recently and he seemed in good spirits. Says he is going to the gym and working with younger fighters. He was a real fighter. Fought Margarito when no one wanted to and took Sergio on short notice.
god bless the punisher :to:

- Margarito does not have any more high level boxing left in him (if he comes back).
you think...eye be damned...pac expired him..he looked BAD in the second cotto fight..shot BAD

- GRJ vs. Escandon is no longer taking place Oct. 24. Likely will be rescheduled in December.
sheeiiiitttt :dahell:..:why:
 

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breh if punisher never gets koed...dude would be mythologized as an unbeatable atg....no diss.:russ:
 

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breh if punisher never gets koed...dude would be mythologized as an unbeatable atg....no diss.:russ:

He was KOd at Middleweight though. He never came close to touching the canvas at Welterweight or Junior Middleweight...even with the "bricks" yall claim Margs kept in his gloves, Pablo Guillermo didn't so much as stutter step not even 1 time in that fight:sas2:
 

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He was KOd at Middleweight though. He never came close to touching the canvas at Welterweight or Junior Middleweight...even with the "bricks" yall claim Margs kept in his gloves, Pablo Guillermo didn't so much as stutter step not even 1 time in that fight:sas2:

where do u rank punisher as a ww?
 
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khan should take his coke habit into the ring with him. might make him absorb more punishment. seemed to work for aaron pryor.
 
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theres a thing called white collar boxing in the uk. its semi pro/unlicensed boxing. you get paid. ive seen some footage and the quality is worse than any amateur fight ive been in. you cant fight amateur tho if they find out you done white collar. but you can still go pro. im thinking about doing this this year instead of amateur. i got fired last week and i need the money. what do you think?
 
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