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If only kid choc brought what Monroe Jr had to the table :stopitslime:




So you just gonna add me to the Bradley stans :ohhh:

fukk it I'll ride with Tim :wow: we need an army to combat all the hate breh gets round here :wow:
You tryna ride with #bradleybunch breh?
 

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If only kid choc brought what Monroe Jr had to the table :stopitslime:

Exactly




So you just gonna add me to the Bradley stans :ohhh:

fukk it I'll ride with Tim :wow: we need an army to combat all the hate breh gets round here :wow:

Might as well add you. He needs some support since alot of my brothers believe #BlackExcellence is a code word for Floyd only:snoop:
 

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USADA clapping back at Hauser :whoo:

On September 9, 2015, SB Nation posted an article written by Mr. Thomas Hauser that contained no less than 40 inaccurate facts and misleading statements, as well as quotes from un-named, un-informed or self-interested sources about USADA and our role in anti-doping in the sport of professional boxing.

In order to provide truthful and accurate facts, and to stop the perpetuation of further rumors, speculation and false information, USADA has provided a detailed 25 page fact correction of the full article which can be found HERE. We have also included a brief overview of some of the most egregious inaccuracies below.

In regards to Mr. Mayweather’s Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE):

The article makes several inaccurate statements about Mr. Mayweather’s TUE. Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2, 2015, fight against Manny Pacquiao. Under the WADA Code, if an athlete has a need to use a prohibited method or substance, they may apply for and be granted a TUE. Having an approved TUE means that the athlete is not in violation of the anti-doping rules.

Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s inaccurate reports, the USADA DCO was in the home and observed Mr. Mayweather’s condition that precipitated the need for an IV. The DCO was also in the home when the paramedic was called and remained in the home while the paramedic provided the IV. At no point during the infusion did Mr. Mayweather attempt to hide anything regarding the treatment he was receiving.

Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada. As such, it is illogical to suggest that Mr. Mayweather had an obligation to apply to NSAC for a TUE for a procedure that is not prohibited or otherwise monitored by them. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the World Anti-Doping Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order to remain in compliance with the USADA program.

Furthermore, the prompt reporting of the TUE after its approval was in accordance with the terms of the testing agreement that was signed by both athletes. The NSAC was provided with the testing agreement and expressly advised of the procedure USADA would utilize to review, approve and report TUEs via email on April 6, 2015. In accordance with the agreement both Mr. Pacquiao and the NSAC were notified of the IV in May as soon as a TUE was approved.

As Mr. Bennett from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) said on September 12th:

“Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”

In regards to Carbon Isotope Ratio (CIR) testing:

Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims that USADA does not utilize CIR testing on the basis that it is “unnecessary and too expensive,” USADA absolutely conducts CIR testing as part of our professional boxing testing programs. For instance, CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their May 2, 2015 fight.

USADA maintains, however that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their T/E ratio. If there were to be any fluctuations, they could lead to additional targeted testing. In addition, USADA’s professional boxing testing programs include testing for EPO, hGH and peptide hormones.

In Regards to the Erik Morales Case:

The article made several inaccurate statements regarding Mr. Morales’ case. Despite Mr. Hauser being provided accurate dates that refuted his claims prior to his story being published, the incorrect information was included anyway.

Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s report, all of the out-of-competition (OOC) samples collected by USADA from Mr. Morales were collected prior to USADA receiving notice from the laboratory that Mr. Morale’s first sample had tested positive for a prohibited substance on October 16, 2012. USADA did not withhold or mislead the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC) about the status of Mr. Morales’ samples. Rather, USADA advised the NYSAC of the A sample positive test on October 17, 2012, prior to any media reports being published, and worked diligently with the laboratory to expedite the analysis and processing of the B sample, as well as the other remaining OOC samples to ensure the NYSAC could consider that information in advance of the scheduled bout.

Given that USADA does not allow blackout dates for testing, we are regularly testing and may collect a sample or multiple samples before the results from previous samples are returned from the laboratory.

In professional boxing, USADA does not have the authority to prevent a fight from occurring. That is a decision that must be made by the appropriate boxing commission, the promoters, and the athletes scheduled to participate in the boxing match. That is why the NYSAC was promptly informed of the A sample positive along with the promoter and both fighters.

Mr. Morales’ case was adjudicated by USADA in accordance with the rules, and he received a 2 year sanction. An announcement of that sanction can be found at Professional Boxing Athlete, Morales, Receives Sanction For Doping Violation | U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

For USADA’s “Detailed Correction to Can Boxing Trust USADA- by Thomas Hauser”- please see http://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...ection-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf
 

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LMAO... Sometimes I can't tell if u trolling or not. GGG has lots of flaws. Dude has 0 inside game. WIllie was tagging him and tattoo'd his face from the inside. Kid Choc is a bum to you breh ? :dead:

no trolling...he's a lost cause and a head case breh..i give 2 shyts for fighters who dont want to be great
shows no interest in boxing and would quit if al is forced out of the sport
will literally not make any moves on his own without al. he prolly sleeps at the foot of his bed like a dog :scust:
gives up his belt for no good reason then tried a roundabout way to get his belt back and couldn't make weight :bryan: :camby:
was getting his boxed the fukk up by rosado but inflicting that lucky cut for the stoppage..the same rosado (with more punch resistance) that was beaten senseless and nearly came close to being killed in the ring by a sick GGG
why dont you talk about quillin's flaws?:sas1:..if not ill be glad to list them for you:sas2:
 

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real talk, i been on boxingscene since i was still in the military this is my profile here and i seriously got burned out on talking about, that place really jaded my opinion on boxing forums as a whole. imagine arguing in mayweathers favor for literally LITERALLY 10 YEARS. i watched mayweather go from loved contender to p4p king, to the most hated man in the entire sports world and i was by his side the whole time no homo. I found boxing forums to be some of the most racist, hate filled garbage ass forums i had ever seen. when pacquiao rose to fame in 2009 is when it hit an all time low. its a big reason why i dont spend much time in the ring, not because i dont watch the sport, but go look at my post history i spent A LONG TIME on that forum. A LONG TIME.

The one good thing about that place is that you had some SERIOUS knowledgeable posters on there, seriously, you had guys who knew the sport in and out like crazy, @Knicksman20 was a guy i actually brought here from there. There was a guy on there named 'Silencers" and another guy named "TheGreatA' I mean those guy had knowledge and could see shyt i couldnt see their historical knoweldge of the sport was incredible. You had old timers posting there that sadly died but they knew the sport because they witnessed alot of shyt first hand. But they dont post anymore. Only guy who really knows his shyt and still posts from the old era is a guy named IMDAZED who is a master pacquiao troll and beats them at their own game and hes black so he sees through all the BS and you can tell hes highly educated. But thats why i hardly ever post. I have literally thousands of hours of fight footage on deck, but i just dont have the energy to talk about it like i used to. Boxingscene scarred me for life.


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/member.php?u=11989

thats me


my negga :laff:

I used to watch those dudes you mention post on there and some post on ESB. That's exactly what I used to say on SOHH and on here as well. The racism and bullshyt in boxing is ridiculous. Hell, look at the hate PBC gets but Arum and DUva get passes for making crappy matches and robbing fighters. Fonfara got paid 1 dollar from DUva for one fight but nobody said crap lmao. 1 dollar for a fight. Heard Duva paid 1 fighter 250 for a fight and he was supposed to get 40k for the fight. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Let's blame Haymon cuz PBC is bad for boxing. :dead:


I see @patscorpio acting like he ain't seen your posts though. FUnny that anybody that laced em up and seen Foyd in the gym respects him and root for him, but the online dudes always find a way to say he didn't do this, that or he needs to fight so and so... yeah he ducking...

My dude told me stories about Floyd that sounds straight ducktales. lol. Best story was when some dude said he could ko Floyd in his own gym lol

Lotta stories he told me about B-Hop and how dude hated Floyd for no reason and hoping he loses. Then he said the wake up call was when B Hop was boxing at 50 years old and nobody wanted to do a story on him. :dead:

Dude also told me about Briggs, Pacquiao ( not much since nobody ever challenged him), Bradley, Khan, Tyson. Dude is a big time investor now and he's still in love with the game, but he doesn't wanna promote yet. He and Lou run together

Myt beef with him is with Berto. Dude shyts on Berto too much
 

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A GGG Stan talking bout nikkas not being worthy to fight :88:


Let's pretend GGG grows some balls N moves up to 168...now let's pretend Ward saying oh GGG has no belt he's not worthy

It sounds fukking stupid right?? :stopitslime:


That's why dudes saying I hate on GGG when I don't. Dude is the most avoided fighter in boxing and everyone is shook of him but he won't jump at the chance to face Ward ? Wanna come down for Canelo/Floyd, but not Lara. Same reason I rooted against Manny. I just can't cheer for fabricated characters. Plain and simple. ALso, all those fighters will have 1 thing in common. They never BLACK. Then you got neggas saying race should not be part of boxing lol
 

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A GGG Stan talking bout nikkas not being worthy to fight :88:


Let's pretend GGG grows some balls N moves up to 168...now let's pretend Ward saying oh GGG has no belt he's not worthy

It sounds fukking stupid right?? :stopitslime:
Let's pretend winky ward has a fight coming up and is not burning bridges.

:bryan:
 

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was getting his boxed the fukk up by rosado but inflicting that lucky cut for the stoppage..

:laff: at you just making shyt up now he clearly beat Rosado and was ahead on all cards when they stopped it. :camby:

He even dropped that nikka twice if I remember correctly.

Instead of listing kid choc's flaws why dont you list Lemiuex, or Gaele or Monroe Jr :cmsas2:
 
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