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[patscorpio]

Dan Rafael Chat Wrap 2/27:


The rest of Boxing:
- TR looking for a new date for Nicholas Walters. - Bob has a superstar in the making he needs to be a notable card
- Dulorme could be a difficult opponent for Crawford, but Crawford has elite talent and should win the fight.
- The winner of Matthysse-Provodnikov has a good chance at fighting Crawford, if he beats Dulorme. Thinks Matthysse is a tougher fight for Crawford.
- If Brook beats Dan, there is a good chance we could see Brook vs. Khan in the Summer.
- HBO wants GGG to fight 5/16. There really are no quality opponents available for that date. Possible opponents could be: Tureano Johnson, Willie Monroe, Hugo Centeno, or Sebastian Heiland...maybe even Korobov. - I wouldn't be interested in any of those fights save maybe Monroe
- He would be mildly interested in seeing GGG face Arthur Abraham.
- GGG and Cotto are not close in negotiating a fight.
- Best unmade fight right now? Cotto-Canelo.
- There was no bad blood between Cotto and Canelo in the negotiations. Fight could still happen later on. It would not shock him if it happened in September.
- Next opponent/date for Andre Ward? No updates and the schedule is starting to fill up. Fan questions he gets rarely have anything to do with Ward.
- This week's Sports Illustrated had advertising for Thurman-Guerrero, Broner-Molina.
- Has heard Rios, Bradley, and Bundrage names as opponents for Cotto in June.
- Gerald Tucker is training James Kirkland for the Canelo fight. Kirkland's manager prefers that he would train with Ann Wolfe.
- Boxers who wasted their talent more than Kirkland? Francisco Bojado and Ricardo Williams. - cosigns
- Chris Arreola will return March 13 on Spike.
- Bey vs. Shavikov is going to a purse bid. - do it gotdammit its a must Bey's reign on top be short like leprechauns
- Haymon is working on a time buy with ESPN. ESPN pays about $2-3 million to put on fights each year. Haymon could be offering $8 million to buy time.
- Ricardo Lopez was easily the best Strawweight of all time. - yes
- Diego De La Hoya has looked good and is a prospect to watch. Has potential to be a top fighter at 122.
- He believes JCC ducked GGG. - yup
- Seldin vs. Garcia? Seldin by KO.
- It appears as if Haymon is trying to setup Mares vs. LSC. Very possible for later in the year.
- Frampton vs. Avalos? Frampton.
- Don't expect Frampton to fight Rigo.
- Named his two cats after boxers: Popo (Freitas) and Thunder (Gatti).
- Roc Nation has no cards scheduled, although they do have 2 times buys left with FS1. - Ward needs to be on one of those cards
- Linares vs. Gamboa? ODH wanted to make the fight, but Gamboa wasn't interested and didn't want to fight at 135.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Anybody who thinks JCC Jr ducked GGG

 

[patscorpio]

By Alexey Sukachev
Turkey - There were bigger disappointments in the long history of prizefighting, but over the last 15 years one will struggle to find a bigger bust than former Cuban amateur star and Olympic gold medal winner Odlanier Solis; his status of a loser being confirmed minutes ago by Tony Thompson. A year ago, the American veteran managed to edge Solis just narrowly on a split decision. Tonight chose not to rely on judges, effectively retiring La Sombra on his stool at the conclusion of round 8.
With a loss to Thompson (now 43 years of age) in their first fight and with crushed dreams surrounding him, Odlanier Solis found himself with his back against the wall and no option but to lose for the second straight time. Solis, 34, responded to this adversity by coming... horribly out-of-shape at 272 lbs.
Nevertheless, former Olympic and three-time world champion started fast, showing reminiscents of his former skills. Thompson responded well in the second half of round one. Then Solis started to use his reflexes and speed to connect more often than Thompson, specifically with his right hand. Yet the American has never been dazed or rocked. However, Odlanier's activity and ring gemeralship allowed his to get an edge later on. Thompson responded well in the fifth and in the sixth stanza, while BoxingScene had it 58-56 - for Solis after the sixth.
Solis continued to engage more with Thompson later on but his intensity decreased, and he suddenly started to look as a gassed fighter. His right hand was still dangerous but sturdy Thompson paid little attention to its effects. He continued to pepper Solis with his jab and allowed him less and less room in the ring. Round seven was clearly Thompson's, while the eighth turned into a virtual catastrophe for the Cuban, who was getting pummelled all over the place in the eighth.
There was a heated conversation in a corner of Solis after the eighth round with his promoter Ahmet Oner using starker and starker words to motivate his protege.
But Solis chose to retire on his stool at the beginning of round 9 to the huge disappointment of Oner, who was seemingly looking to get Thompson's job done with his own hands and restrained himself just barely.
Odlanier's second consecutive loss can very well mark the end of the road for arguably the most praised Cuban heavyweight of its first modern wave. Solis is now 20-3, with 13 KOs. Seemingly ageless Thompson resurrects his career once again, and he is now 40-5, 27 KOs, with a newly acquired WBC Continental Americas heavyweight regalia.

this is a gotdamn shame...another wasted talent sent to the bushes because of his laziness..meanwhile tony still hangs around..fukk around and he'll get himself another title shot with wlad or wilder

 

[Black_Jesus]

Anybody who thinks JCC Jr ducked GGG

Of course he ducked GGG.. Arum offered him a superfight coming off a lopsided ass whooping from Martinez and a struggle win vs Bryan Vera He should've resigned with Top Rank until 2016 got his $7 million and plus the guaranteed 5/10 million the next fight.. Your boy has no heart. He rather sit at home eating beans and rice calling out a 40 year old Carl Froch.. Hoe ass nikka

 

[MIAlien]

Of course he ducked GGG.. Arum offered him a superfight coming off a lopsided ass whooping from Martinez and a struggle win vs Bryan Vera He should've resigned with Top Rank until 2016 got his $7 million and plus the guaranteed 5/10 million the next fight.. Your boy has no heart. He rather sit at home eating beans and rice calling out a 40 year old Carl Froch.. Hoe ass nikka

And The Ring's favorite promoter, Al Haymon, is who we have to thank for that and many other ducks. Haymon starts filling a boxer's head with dreams of big money fights with less risk, and they choose the path of least resistance.

 

[GzUp]

Of course he ducked GGG.. Arum offered him a superfight coming off a lopsided ass whooping from Martinez and a struggle win vs Bryan Vera He should've resigned with Top Rank until 2016 got his $7 million and plus the guaranteed 5/10 million the next fight.. Your boy has no heart. He rather sit at home eating beans and rice calling out a 40 year old Carl Froch.. Hoe ass nikka

he didnt want to sign some bullshyt ass extention for the fight... there was no duck.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Of course he ducked GGG.. Arum offered him a superfight coming off a lopsided ass whooping from Martinez and a struggle win vs Bryan Vera He should've resigned with Top Rank until 2016 got his $7 million and plus the guaranteed 5/10 million the next fight.. Your boy has no heart. He rather sit at home eating beans and rice calling out a 40 year old Carl Froch.. Hoe ass nikka

Arum offered HBO Vera $$$ for PPV against GGG

Or sign that slave contract... Get robbed N hope Arum don't treat you like Bradley N actually gives you the money he promised

And The Ring's favorite promoter, Al Haymon, is who we have to thank for that and many other ducks. Haymon starts filling a boxer's head with dreams of big money fights with less risk, and they choose the path of least resistance.

Froch is a path of least resistance now

 

[Black_Jesus]

he didnt want to sign some bullshyt ass extention for the fight... there was no duck.

perfect excuse to duck GGG... complain about extensions even though you're getting big fights and guaranteed career high paydays breh

 

[GzUp]

perfect excuse to duck GGG... complain about extensions even though you're getting big fights and guaranteed career high paydays breh

U really might be the only person in the whole net who thinks that... Everyone praised Chavez for not being strong armed like that.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Arum offered HBO Vera $$$ for PPV against GGG

Or sign that slave contract... Get robbed N hope Arum don't treat you like Bradley N actually gives you the money he promised







Froch is a path of least resistance now

How do you know Bradley didn't get the money he was(allegedly) promised. Why would he reup with TR if Arum didn't come through??

 

[Ari Gold Bawse]

U really might be the only person in the whole net who thinks that... Everyone praised Chavez for not being strong armed like that.

i didnt

go over to haymon and fight fonfaras?

Chavez didnt want another beatdown like the Martinez L

 

[Black_Jesus]

U really might be the only person in the whole net who thinks that... Everyone praised Chavez for not being strong armed like that.

How is it strongarming.. the nikka had options.. Fight GGG and re up until 2016 making huge money or dont re up and fight GGG, make 2 million and walk away.. He chose to be a lil bytch and sit it out.. But we know the truth was he wanted no parts of GGG. I know Haymon was in his ear

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

How do you know Bradley didn't get the money he was(allegedly) promised. Why would he reup with TR if Arum didn't come through??

He reupped with Bob cuz Tim made his Fat ass wife his manager...of course TR won that negotiations

Act like Bob ain't known for robbing nikkas

Ariza was on video saying Rob Arum had Chavez Jr sign papers in english for extensions telling him it was immigration papers

N I love how you changed your tune from signing with Al meant Jcc Jr was ducking Froch to bu bu but Jcc Jr is trying to pick on a 40yr old :smugjr:

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

i didnt

go over to haymon and fight fonfaras?

Chavez didnt want another beatdown like the Martinez L

The Froch fight was all but done breh...then Froch pulled out with injury

Fonfara is a more then decent stay busy fight til Froch is ready...can't blame Al or Chavez

 

[patscorpio]

i didnt

go over to haymon and fight fonfaras?

Chavez didnt want another beatdown like the Martinez L

Ditto but then Jr is too much of a lazy bum for me to ever feel sympathetic for