So much struggle
the rip I found didn't have subtitles for the Tagalog parts
at arum though "You cant use rational thinking with a mayweather" 
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at arum though "You cant use rational thinking with a mayweather" 
I tried watching that manny doc but goddamn they speaking that language too much
Mr.Forte
Banned
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Dan Rafael chat wrap 12/19:
- Hopes Mayweather-Pacquiao happens, but still doubtful. If it is made, unlikely it happens on May 2.
- Think Pacquiao and Arum are really trying to make the fight. Not convinced Floyd does.
- The May 2 date is important to Canelo. Cotto doesnt care what date they would fight on.
- Wilder-Stiverne tickets go on sale today. Showtime is doing 1 episode of All Access for this fight.
- Thinks a 60/40 split would be a realistic fair purse split for Floyd and Manny.
- Thought Froch barely beat Dirrell. Does not think a rematch happens as Froch wants a bigger money fight.
- Thinks Khan will be Mayweather's next opponent.
- ODH, TR, and Cotto's advisor all said the Canelo-Cotto fight will take place in the venue that offers the most money. Most likely to be: Vegas, NY, or Dallas.
- No chance Mayweather fights on May 2. Assuming Canelo-Cotto gets made it will take place on May 2. Putting that fight and a Mayweather fight on the same date would hurt both fights revenues.
- ODH has been talking about making Mares-LSC.
- Wlad-Jennings negotiations are getting close.
Does not think Jennings presents any problems for Wlad.
- Andy Lee's first title defense will be in Ireland. Opponent mentioned could be Billy Joe Saunders. A GGG fight after that could be possible.
- Crawford is moving up and could be fighting for the vacant WBO belt, likely in March/April.
- Floyd has no say about network negotiations - referring to his comments that it would have to take place on Showtime. Most likely it would be a joint broadcast like Tyson-Lewis.
- Does not believe Fury when he says Emmanuel Steward said he would beat Wlad.
- No doubt Hopkins will fight again.
- If Floyd fights Khan, GB likely to be involved in promotion. If Floyd fought Pacquiao GB probably not involved.
- Would vote for Tapia into the HOF.
- Dan-Bizier fight is the best fight on the card and a toss up fight.
- Thought Herrera dominated Benavides.
- Does not think Kovalev-Stevenson happens in 2015.
- Walters likely to fight March/April. Thinks that Walters-Lomachenko happens in 2015.
- Anthony Crolla broke his ankle and fractured his skull breaking up a robbery at his neighbors house. His fight vs. Abril in January is off.
- Chris John is borderline HOF.
- There is no doubt that Showtime and HBO hurt themselves when they put matches directly opposing each other.
- Original festival documentary of Tapia was 85 min. HBO shortened it and added narration.
- Does not like the HOF system. Would prefer a minimum threshold % of votes to be accepted.
- Does not think the scorecards for Bradley-Chaves were fixed.
- BKB is interested in having Curtis Stevens fight.
- Think Bolonti faked his injury.
- Floyd is a bigger fight financially for Khan than Kell Brook.
- Believes that Arum's site fee in Macau for Pacquiao fights is far greater than $8 million.
- Lemieux-GGG is definitely a possibility for next year.
- HBO had 14 of the 16 most watched fights. Showtime's highest was #14 and ESPN at #16.
- Doubts that Bradley-Chaves rematch is their next fight.
- Does not think GB would have finalized Stiverne-Wilder if it didn't have assurances Wilder would stay with them.
- Rates 2014 boxing schedule as a 6.5.
- Talked with Richard Schaefer and he is still working through his legal issues with GB.
- Wouldnt mind seeing Andy Lee vs. Jermain Taylor.
- On the fight conference call Wilder was bragging about his Malik Scott win.
- Hopes Mayweather-Pacquiao happens, but still doubtful. If it is made, unlikely it happens on May 2.
- Think Pacquiao and Arum are really trying to make the fight. Not convinced Floyd does.
- The May 2 date is important to Canelo. Cotto doesnt care what date they would fight on.
- Wilder-Stiverne tickets go on sale today. Showtime is doing 1 episode of All Access for this fight.
- Thinks a 60/40 split would be a realistic fair purse split for Floyd and Manny.
- Thought Froch barely beat Dirrell. Does not think a rematch happens as Froch wants a bigger money fight.
- Thinks Khan will be Mayweather's next opponent.
- ODH, TR, and Cotto's advisor all said the Canelo-Cotto fight will take place in the venue that offers the most money. Most likely to be: Vegas, NY, or Dallas.
- No chance Mayweather fights on May 2. Assuming Canelo-Cotto gets made it will take place on May 2. Putting that fight and a Mayweather fight on the same date would hurt both fights revenues.
- ODH has been talking about making Mares-LSC.
- Wlad-Jennings negotiations are getting close.
Does not think Jennings presents any problems for Wlad.
- Andy Lee's first title defense will be in Ireland. Opponent mentioned could be Billy Joe Saunders. A GGG fight after that could be possible.
- Crawford is moving up and could be fighting for the vacant WBO belt, likely in March/April.
- Floyd has no say about network negotiations - referring to his comments that it would have to take place on Showtime. Most likely it would be a joint broadcast like Tyson-Lewis.
- Does not believe Fury when he says Emmanuel Steward said he would beat Wlad.
- No doubt Hopkins will fight again.
- If Floyd fights Khan, GB likely to be involved in promotion. If Floyd fought Pacquiao GB probably not involved.
- Would vote for Tapia into the HOF.
- Dan-Bizier fight is the best fight on the card and a toss up fight.
- Thought Herrera dominated Benavides.
- Does not think Kovalev-Stevenson happens in 2015.
- Walters likely to fight March/April. Thinks that Walters-Lomachenko happens in 2015.
- Anthony Crolla broke his ankle and fractured his skull breaking up a robbery at his neighbors house. His fight vs. Abril in January is off.
- Chris John is borderline HOF.
- There is no doubt that Showtime and HBO hurt themselves when they put matches directly opposing each other.
- Original festival documentary of Tapia was 85 min. HBO shortened it and added narration.
- Does not like the HOF system. Would prefer a minimum threshold % of votes to be accepted.
- Does not think the scorecards for Bradley-Chaves were fixed.
- BKB is interested in having Curtis Stevens fight.
- Think Bolonti faked his injury.
- Floyd is a bigger fight financially for Khan than Kell Brook.
- Believes that Arum's site fee in Macau for Pacquiao fights is far greater than $8 million.
- Lemieux-GGG is definitely a possibility for next year.
- HBO had 14 of the 16 most watched fights. Showtime's highest was #14 and ESPN at #16.
- Doubts that Bradley-Chaves rematch is their next fight.
- Does not think GB would have finalized Stiverne-Wilder if it didn't have assurances Wilder would stay with them.
- Rates 2014 boxing schedule as a 6.5.
- Talked with Richard Schaefer and he is still working through his legal issues with GB.
- Wouldnt mind seeing Andy Lee vs. Jermain Taylor.
- On the fight conference call Wilder was bragging about his Malik Scott win.
blackestofpanthers
God forgives, you are forgiven.
fukk him
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Fatman is so damn obvious. So much has happened since this last chat wrap, I'm surprised theres not a lot more info.
Oh now you gotta think about it huh
If Dan were still alive, I would be 100% confident that Ward wouldn't be fighting in 2015. As it stands now, I'm around 80% confident.
Dan invested too much time in Ward & would never let him go under any circumstances. It became personal before he passed away. Now his son Craig might if the price is right. Roc Nation in their short time want to be a major player. They've already shown a willingness to overpay fighters, so why not buy out Ward's contract?
I really feel if Ward had the stylin, profilin, limosine ridin, harvard educated, super advisor Al Haymon on his team he would get this nygga a fight. Instead he's with J Prince
I hope you're wrong. It's been far too long since we got to watch SOG
Well the issue is Ward keeps taking it to court. I just got finished looking over Goosen tutor's roster & he's their biggest fighter by far. No doubt they are gonna do everything they can to hold on to him.
Yea, not sure what ward agenda is. At some point, he's going to have to say fukk it and just fight under Goosen. His reputation and profession relies on it.
King P
Legends Never Die
fukk outta here with Chris John going into the HOF 
i was just about to say that..it was the happiest day when @SuikodenII informed me he was beaten down and stoppedfukk outta here with Chris John going into the HOF
fukk a chris john 
..hes on the same level as sven ottke to me
Jesus Is Lord
Give Thanks, Repent, and Forgive
Whaaaaaat???????????????????fukk outta here with Chris John going into the HOF
edit: I thought he was voted in, didn't read Dan's article.
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