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[mr. smoke weed]

Why would the #CaneloCartel call out Floyd?


He easily defeated us last year, we both came together to make a lot of money, and we've moved on.


How did he "pick on" the 154 Boogeyman Erislandy Lara?

And what are you talking about with JCC Jr?


JCC Jr cant make 160, Canelo aint going up to 168 (being that he's a 154 fighter), so us going up 8 pounds to 162 and JCC Jr coming down to 162 is fair. Hell, we could've said fight us at Middleweigh
Besides, at 154 and above....WE call the shots and Cotto is gonna find that out too when he gets on his Diva bullshyt during negotiations


#CaneloCartel

If the Cartel runs things at 154 why wouldn't he call out Floyd for a rematch and for the green strap? It's been a year + Canelo's apparently p4p level now, but doesn't want a re-match
Oooooh Lara quite the impressive win
Canelo benefits going up wayyyyyyyyy more than JCC jr would going down is hard to see about that?
Again, run things at 154 but don't try and avenge losses or go for that green strap

 

[WhodatWhoadi]

My dawg Ortiz bout to get the full WBA strap.

 

[Newzz]

If the Cartel runs things at 154 why wouldn't he call out Floyd for a rematch and for the green strap? It's been a year + Canelo's apparently p4p level now, but doesn't want a re-match

No need to fight Floyd again, because he's NOT gonna avenge the loss breh. You know that, I know that, The Ring knows that, the BOXING world knows that, and Canelo knows that.....it would be a pointless fight

Oooooh Lara quite the impressive win

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Canelo beat Lara better than BATB "beat" Pacquiao and Provodnikov

Canelo benefits going up wayyyyyyyyy more than JCC jr would going down is hard to see about that?

Do you not understand that Canelo fights at 154?

Why the hell would he jump 2 divisions to fight JCC Jr at 168, when JCC Jr is MUCH bigger than Canelo is?

Canelo could easily say "meet me at 160" and then JCC Jr would have to try and fight at Middleweight which he cannot make. Instead, we being generous and saying we will come up to 162. We will come up 8 pounds and you come down 6 pounds. It's a fair exchange....especially considering The Cartel has never fought above 155lbs

Again, run things at 154 but don't try and avenge losses or go for that green strap

Again, what would be the point of Floyd Mayweather vs Canelo Alvarez 2.....you tell us


You clamoring for rematches of lopsided victories now?


Besides Floyd, #CaneloCartel runs 154 division and when he retires next years, all roads from 154-160 will lead through Canelo



#CaneloCartel

 

[Black_Jesus]

Anyone have a link to the Ndam Stevens fight?? @SuikodenII

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Dan Rafael chat wrap 10/3:

- Likes the Bradley-Chaves fight. Bradley of course is the favorite.
- Gonzalez-Arce: Common sense is picking Gonzalez, but his heart is hoping Arce wins as he has always been a fan.
- Believes JCC is still under contract with TR. Contract likely was extended due to his suspension.
- Agrees that if Floyd cant secure a Mexican fighter he should consider moving of the May/Sept schedule.
- Stevens is who he is: a hard puncher who isnt as aggressive as he says he is.
- It is King and Haymon who keep postponing the Stiverne-Wilder purse bid.
- Fighter who wasted his talent the most in the last 20 years? Ricardo Williams Jr.
- 3 deepest divisions: WW, LW, JWW.
- Haymon is working on his NBC deal. His relationship with Showtime going forward is unknown.
- Goosen's company will go on. Most likely run by his brother in law and son.
- Theoretically the winner of Chavez and Ortiz will be Wlad's mandatory.
- Alvarado-Rios 3 most likely happening in Jan 2015.
- Thinks Lee-Korobov is a 50/50 fight.
- Asked if Hopkins can take Kovalev's punch? That is what we all want to find out. If he can, Kovalev is in trouble.
- Mayweather-Khan or Canelo-Cotto, he would rather watch Canelo-Cotto.
- HBO has had better cards this year than Showtime.
- Believes Floyd would have taken riskier fights and been more likely to take a Pacquiao fight if he was given a loss vs Castillo. He wouldn't be so concerned with protecting his 0.
- He does in fact have a copy of the contract fighters sign with Haymon.
- He has never heard the rumors that Khan dominated Pacquiao in sparring.
- JMM will fight again next year. Arum threw out Bradley and Pacquiao as opponents.
- As an undercard to Hopkins-Kovalev, Arum mentioned Benevaides-Herrera, but doesn't think that is more than an idea at this point.
- According to Ruslan's promoter Ruslan's wanted to fight on the Hopkins-Kovalev undercard, but they were given a low ball number.
- Broner most likely wont fight again in 2014.
- Likely location for Canelo-Cotto will be Minute Maid park in Houston.
- Doesn't think Garcia faces Postol.
- Believes it is very likely an Abraham-Smith rematch takes place in 2015.
- After the Beltran fight, Crawford is expected to move to 140.
- He is picking Taylor by decisions vs Soliman.
- Mikey Garcia is still sitting out believing he deserves a payday that no one is offering.
- Likes the idea of Khan fighting Guerrero in order to prove he deserves a Floyd fight.
- According to Ruslan's promoter they offered Herrera and Judah: $400k, 5 airline tickets, hotel rooms for 10 days and were turned down. They then offered $500k and turned down again.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

No need to fight Floyd again, because he's NOT gonna avenge the loss breh. You know that, I know that, The Ring knows that, the BOXING world knows that, and Canelo knows that.....it would be a pointless fight



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Canelo beat Lara better than BATB "beat" Pacquiao and Provodnikov



Why the hell would he jump 2 divisions to fight JCC Jr at 168, when JCC Jr is MUCH bigger than Canelo is?

Canelo could easily say "meet me at 160" and then JCC Jr would have to try and fight at Middleweight which he cannot make. Instead, we being generous and saying we will come up to 162. We will come up 8 pounds and you come down 6 pounds. It's a fair exchange....especially considering The Cartel has never fought above 155lbs



Again, what would be the point of Floyd Mayweather vs Canelo Alvarez 2.....you tell us


You clamoring for rematches of lopsided victories now?


Besides Floyd, #CaneloCartel runs 154 division and when he retires next years, all roads from 154-160 will lead through Canelo



#CaneloCartel

Just don't say ya mans runs the division when there's a match for the strap out there.
Don't bring bad ass into this, and I never claimed he beat pac.
I'm not mad at Canelo, he looks like he'll be a really good fighter once he works out his stamina issues. I was saying it's beneficial for Cinnamon to go up 8lbs more than it hinders JCC jr to drop to 162.
Why ya squad fighting Clottey and potentially Cotto though? Those are two Angulo's

 

[Newzz]

Miguel Cotto is Alfredo Angulo?

He's the Lineal Middleweight Champion of the world...Canelo shouldn't move up to fight him?

So, you not gonna watch that fight breh?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Miguel Cotto is Alfredo Angulo?

He's the Lineal Middleweight Champion of the world...Canelo shouldn't move up to fight him?

So, you not gonna watch that fight breh?

Course I'ma watch it because Cotto is trash at 154 breh from another meh, and of course he's no Angulo. I just ain't sold on Canelo until I see those endurance issues gone

 

[GzUp]

Cotto is no where what he was.. I think he is very beatable, he just struck gold on taking that risk to fight Martinez.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Cotto is no where what he was.. I think he is very beatable, he just struck gold on taking that risk to fight Martinez.

Enough to beat Canelo

 

[SuikodenII]

Anyone have a link to the Ndam Stevens fight?? @SuikodenII

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Anyone have a link to the Ndam Stevens fight?? @SuikodenII

I posted it like 4 or 5 pages ago when you asked

 

[Black_Jesus]

I posted it like 4 or 5 pages ago when you asked

My bad... I didn't see it

 

[Skip b]

Enough to beat Canelo

He sure Better than Jose Cotto..........................




Whoever thinks Canelo fights or beat Cotto doesn't know shyt about boxing

 

[merklman]

He sure Better than Jose Cotto..........................




Whoever thinks Canelo fights or beat Cotto doesn't know shyt about boxing

Canelo will beat cotto when they fight