Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[patscorpio]

His upper body physique definitely affects his punch technique, you can't full extension on your shots, with his traps shredded like a body builder, no extension mans no power, aad then he falls into bad habits like wining slaps, it's a collective group of problems that simply not overdoing the upper body exercises will help

add to the fact Bradley doesn't use his legs when he punches or turns his punches over....that shyt drives me crazy..all upper body

 

[surv2syn]

His upper body physique definitely affects his punch technique, you can't full extension on your shots, with his traps shredded like a body builder, no extension mans no power, aad then he falls into bad habits like wining slaps, it's a collective group of problems that simply not overdoing the upper body exercises will help

I kinda meant Bradley specifically. He has always fought in that amateur punching style. a lot of these fighters now still do. they just dont hone their skills like fighters of past. they fast track it to the money. I believe I said this here a few weeks ago...but Bradley has reached his pinnacle as a fighter, as Pac has slightly before him. they are fighting for paydays now. you will never see these guys as top 3 P4P guys ever again...I dont care who's list it is.

 

[Black_Jesus]

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sorry, not sure how you can be top 3 coming off a loss and win over an unproven fighter. so fukk your list breh. sounds like your top 3 consisted of at least 2 TR fighters. TR fighters are not that good, just the same fukkin dudes fighting each other over and over again. recycling nikkas like Alvarado and Rios. TR aint slick.[DOUBLEPOST=1397491810][/DOUBLEPOST]

you have a point. I just dont like heavily muscled fighters. it seems like they lose fluidity.[DOUBLEPOST=1397491931][/DOUBLEPOST]they may as well not even waste the public's time talking about exploring options. just set the date for the 3rd fight and be done with it.

So at the end of 2012 you have Floyd and Andre Ward at 1 and 2 correct??

Who's at #3??

 

[surv2syn]

that undercard was the worst. I didnt buy this fight simply off GP.

 

[surv2syn]

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So at the end of 2012 you have Floyd and Andre Ward at 1 and 2 correct??

Who's at #3??

everyone's list is different. I couldve easily favored Klit or Serge over him. in fact I wouldve favored Serge over JMM. if you had JMM 3rd I aint gonna cry about it...but it wasnt clearcut by any means.

 

[Skip b]

everyone's list is different. I couldve easily favored Klit or Serge over him. in fact I wouldve favored Serge over JMM. if you had JMM 3rd I aint gonna cry about it...but it wasnt clearcut by any means.

1.Mayweather
2.Andre Ward
3. Wlad
4.Bradley
5.Manny
6. JMM(would put him 5 had it not been for duck games)

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Can we all agree that the reason why Timmy keeps injuring his lower extremities in fights with Pacquiao is because he is so desperate to avoid getting hit by any of Manny's punches that he starts flopping around the ring in bizarre ways that end up twisting ankles and pulling muscles and shyt?

Absolutely. After the first fight Tim Bradley (who is the self proclaimed hardest working man in boxing) went on about how unbelievable Manny's conditioning was and that he was flat out tired during their first fight.
People underrate what Manny does. He is athletic and moves around with great conditioning.
I don't think it is any coincidence that Bradley got injured in both fights vs Manny and hasn't versus other fighters.

 

[patscorpio]

1.Mayweather
2.Andre Ward
3. Wlad
4.Bradley
5.Manny
6. JMM(would put him 5 had it not been for duck games)

shocking you didn't put Garcia up in there

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Manny could KO God and nikkas would spin shyt some sorta way so dude don;t get any credit or that he looked bad.

nikkas would be like, "Jesus always turns the other cheek, so of course he wasn't going to fight back." or "Arum told God to not use all of his divine powers until the rematch."

Fact is prime Manny ain't coming back. He died in the Margarito fight. What we have now is an older more tactical Manny that's only going to go beastmode in spurts due to his physical prime being gone. It's still good enough to beat very good almost there type fighters like Bradley and that's that.

It's like Manny's being penalized for not being in his prime anymore. shyt is

 

[Skip b]

shocking you didn't put Garcia up in there

I did but edited, I didnt feel the Herrera choice, and even though he won there in a contested match where he had to rally from behind, it was a nothing match vs a nobody you get no credit for those in my book.......Honestly this match killed his whole p4p top 5 argument, not to mention he didnt quite campaign outside of 140, p4p does mean pound for pound, so a win at 147 may catipult him back into my top 3.......Swift still beats Manny, JMM, and Bradley IMO[DOUBLEPOST=1397494340][/DOUBLEPOST]

Manny could KO God and nikkas would spin shyt some sorta way so dude don;t get any credit or that he looked bad.....................................

When the last time Manny ko'ed someone, cut that bulshyt out, this has nothing to do with a KO, Manny simply was getting his ass broken down every way possible before Bradley clowned, Manny aint force that change, Bradley simply had ulterior motives, all in all Manny threw alot of shots and aint land shyt, I'm glad I'm seeing nobody aint quite buying into this Manny hype post Saturday, even Roach himself.......

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I did but edited, I didnt feel the Herrera choice, and even though he won there in a contested match where he had to rally from behind, it was a nothing match vs a nobody you get no credit for those in my book.......Honestly this match killed his whole p4p top 5 argument, not to mention he didnt quite campaign outside of 140, p4p does mean pound for pound, so a win at 147 may catipult him back into my top 3.......Swift still beats Manny, JMM, and Bradley IMO[DOUBLEPOST=1397494340][/DOUBLEPOST]
When the last time Manny ko'ed someone, cut that bulshyt out, this has nothing to do with a KO, Manny simply was getting his ass broken down every way possible before Bradley clowned, Manny aint force that change, Bradley simply had ulterior motives, all in all Manny threw alot of shots and aint land shyt, I'm glad I'm seeing nobody aint quite buying into this Manny hype post Saturday, even Roach himself.......

Have a clear agenda against fighters you hate while you're watching boxing brehs.

 

[L68]

first take lead story is the fight..they usually save it for the end

 

[Black_Jesus]

everyone's list is different. I couldve easily favored Klit or Serge over him. in fact I wouldve favored Serge over JMM. if you had JMM 3rd I aint gonna cry about it...but it wasnt clearcut by any means.

I dont give a fukk what you say... Timothy Bradley getting a win vs Pac and Marquez who were both top 5 at the time they lost shouldve automatically put him at #3 p4p... and yes they are TR fighters... besides floyd, Which GB WW have been ahead of Bradley Pac and Marquez p4p??

Khan??
Pauly??
Broner??
Soto??
Zab??
Thurman??
Alexander??
Maidana??
Ortiz??
Berto??

p4p is more than who you personally feel is better... Its about who them nikkas have beat.. marquez and Bradley having a win against Pac is why they were ahead of all of GBs WW.. They just happened to be on TR

 

[patscorpio]

Floyd
Ward/Klitschko sharing number 2..Klitschko because he's been champ since 2006. I cant knock that longevity. Ward cleared out 168 and has not looked close to losing a fight since Boone put him on his ass
Sergio - Ruled 160 for 4 years
Manny is right at 4 for me..if wlad or sergio lose their upcoming fights and manny will move up for me

 

[krackdagawd]

Here you go, after watching the fight like 3 times and once before bed here is my assessments

Firstly Whoever saying the first fight was a robbery need to kill themselves, Bradley won every round from 7-12 not to mention the 2 first toss up rounds..........Now to the fight at hand

Bradley was beating the ever loving shyt out of Manny in the first half of the fight, Leading 4-2 in my book, Manny had flashes but one solid shot or a flurry where nothing lands doesn't win those rounds......After six something changed though, Bradley chose to dummy or give the perception that he was trying when he really wasnt, swinging wide shots that anybody could sewe let alone a elite athlete like Manny. Bradley decided to toy completely put his jab back into it's hostler and make Manny look good for whatever reason, he was winning the middle of the ring fight but sat on the ropes and invited Manny over without throwing any shots, and it wasn't like Manny caused that change with a punch or something. Looking at Bradley in his corner it appeared as if something was wrong with him, he couldnt even look his trainer in the eye, while Diaz screamed at him over and over in those middle rounds.......But Manny is starting to come on strong taking what Bradley gave to him on a silver platter, even still Manny was missing a lot and Bradley still was diggin to the body..... But I cant co-sign giving Bradley those 7-10 rounds although his defense was sharp, when this muthafukker was playing around and toying just to toy(fukk he thought he was, making the fight hard when you know you aint getting the decision even if Manny relatively looked like shyt in the grand scheme of things. Bradley then came back and won round 11, but lost a close 12 giving Manny the nod.........


Bottom line is I have been watching the sport all my damn life, the vanilla Bradley clearly let up and made Manny look better than he was fighting to ensure that it would be a 3rd rematch, HBO was talking rematch before the cards even came back...........All in all it was a nothing match IMO, all the questions I had didnt get answered, Bradley didnt beat Pacquaio convincingly, Manny didnt look like Prime Manny at all, Manny let up again when Bradley was sitting on the ropes egging him on once again forcing us to question his killer instinct, now we have rematch talks, so analyzing from a non biased POV, this match had more than a tinge of weird shyt going on, now TR can make big Money on a 3rd match......Bottom line is what is talked about the match has shot to do with how Manny dominated, or how Manny razzled dazzled in prime form, no it was about why the fukk Bradley threw his gameplan in the trash halfway after nearly sending that nikka flying out the ring on some Martin Tommy hearns shyt......Manny can skate away without criticism here unfortunately, but Bradley was clearly the story..............

The only positive about Saturday is that Bradley, most likely gained a ass of fans by always fighting to please them, it spite of whether, he's up in the fight or in spite of if he gets ko'ed and lose..............

So good Manny win but Manny won because Bradley allowed him too, this was like the first fight in reverse........Manny didnt dominate one bit, and this fight could have easi.y been scored for Bradley even when he was bullshytting n clowning.......This was a 7-5 fight either way, not no domination....

SN:Anybody still spewing Bradley is a boxer mess can suck my dikk, he's a wild brawler 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, on some Brandon Rios shyt, yes he can box, but when all else fails that tiger shows his stripes instantly with no fukks given.....................

I don't even know where to begin breh