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[UpAndComing]

Matias would have a helluva time getting past Haney's jab bro. Haney would offset dude all night by jabbing & turning him so he can't set his feet to get his power off, & then sting him with hard counters

Personally, I always question people who have a lack of strength on the inside. That eventually catches up with you in fights. Haney getting manahandled by a 126 pounder in Loma can't be erased from my mind lol

Outboxing isn't an automatic. Caleb Plant and Andrade outboxed Benavidez, but they had the same result because they lacked strength on the inside

 

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Haney getting manahandled by a 126 pounder in Loma can't be erased from my mind lol

not for nothing...lomachenko is pretty damn strong

 

[Apollo Creed]

Personally, I always question people who have a lack of strength on the inside. That eventually catches up with you in fights. Haney getting manahandled by a 126 pounder in Loma can't be erased from my mind lol

Outboxing isn't an automatic. Caleb Plant and Andrade outboxed Benavidez, but they had the same result because they lacked strength on the inside

I want to see if Devin tries to bully Ryan. Dude has been weight drained the last 2-3 years so I`m showing him Grace.

 

[Knicksman20]

Personally, I always question people who have a lack of strength on the inside. That eventually catches up with you in fights. Haney getting manahandled by a 126 pounder in Loma can't be erased from my mind lol

Outboxing isn't an automatic. Caleb Plant and Andrade outboxed Benavidez, but they had the same result because they lacked strength on the inside

Plant & Andrade are NOWHERE near Haney's level bro. We're talking Devin Haney who probably has the best jab in boxing, a top 5 P4P guy, & superb boxing skills. If Matias can catch him he definitely could hurt him but I imagine him not cutting down to 35 will not only help his physical strength, but probably make him more sturdy. Cotto is a prime example of someone who got his shyt rocked bad several times at 140 but when he moved to 47, he was a lot more sturdy

 

[Apollo Creed]

Plant & Andrade are NOWHERE near Haney's level bro. We're talking Devin Haney who probably has the best jab in boxing, a top 5 P4P guy, & superb boxing skills. If Matias can catch him he definitely could hurt him but I imagine him not cutting down to 35 will not only help his physical strength, but probably make him more sturdy. Cotto is a prime example of someone who got his shyt rocked bad several times at 140 but when he moved to 47, he was a lot more sturdy

exactly. If Devin manhandles Ryan shyt will be interesting lol

 

[UpAndComing]

When i went to see Shakur vs Jamel you woulda thought Nico was the main event the way they were showing promo for him

I have no idea who is Nico Ali Walsh's manager is, but it looks like they are being sensible and bringing him up the ranks slowly. No need to rush at all. Have him on undercards until he shows a greater improvement in skills. I think he needs about 5-6 fights before he can even do a step up fight IMO

 

[UpAndComing]

Plant & Andrade are NOWHERE near Haney's level bro. We're talking Devin Haney who probably has the best jab in boxing, a top 5 P4P guy, & superb boxing skills. If Matias can catch him he definitely could hurt him but I imagine him not cutting down to 35 will not only help his physical strength, but probably make him more sturdy. Cotto is a prime example of someone who got his shyt rocked bad several times at 140 but when he moved to 47, he was a lot more sturdy

That's an irrelevant point lol. The conversation was Haney outboxing Matias. Saying Haney is a better boxer than Plant or Andrade is literally a point out of thin air... Relative to Benavidez, Plant and Andrade are better boxers and were outboxing him throughout the fight, correct?

There are too many examples of better boxers getting destroyed by the stronger guy on the inside. Just this past week Hitchins vs Lemos, then you got Amir Khan vs Canelo, Chris Byrd vs Ike Ibeabuchi, etc etc... If Haney is getting manhandled by a 126 pounder in Loma, what do you think Matias is going to do?

 

[Knicksman20]

That's an irrelevant point lol. The conversation was Haney outboxing Matias. Saying Haney is a better boxer than Plant or Andrade is literally a point out of thin air... Relative to Benavidez, Plant and Andrade are better boxers and were outboxing him throughout the fight, correct?

There are too many examples of better boxers getting destroyed by the stronger guy on the inside. Just this past week Hitchins vs Lemos, then you got Amir Khan vs Canelo, Chris Byrd vs Ike Ibeabuchi, etc etc... If Haney is getting manhandled by a 126 pounder in Loma, what do you think Matias is going to do?

It's perfectly relevant but you just don't wanna get it because of your dislike of him lol. You're comparing B level fighters "out boxing" guys to an A level P4P undefeated/undisputed champ who still hasn't hit his peak. Levels, which I'm sure you know but probably won't admit because of whom we're talking about lol.

And your comparison to Byrd misses the mark bro. While Byrd was good & got the best out of his talent fighting giants, we're talking about one of the best 5 fighters in the world that was undisputed but hasn't even peaked yet

 

[Apollo Creed]

It's perfectly relevant but you just don't wanna get it because of your dislike of him lol. You're comparing B level fighters "out boxing" guys to an A level P4P undefeated/undisputed champ who still hasn't hit his peak. Levels, which I'm sure you know but probably won't admit because of whom we're talking about lol.

And your comparison to Byrd misses the mark bro. While Byrd was good & got the best out of his talent fighting giants, we're talking about one of the best 5 fighters in the world that was undisputed but hasn't even peaked yet

Kinda scary we got another decade of Devin getting better lol

 

[UpAndComing]

It's perfectly relevant but you just don't wanna get it because of your dislike of him lol. You're comparing B level fighters "out boxing" guys to an A level P4P undefeated/undisputed champ who still hasn't hit his peak. Levels, which I'm sure you know but probably won't admit because of whom we're talking about lol.

And your comparison to Byrd misses the mark bro. While Byrd was good & got the best out of his talent fighting giants, we're talking about one of the best 5 fighters in the world that was undisputed but hasn't even peaked yet

Again, you are still not understanding the Boxing ability RELATIVE to the person getting outboxed. I don't know how many time I have to explain that. The distance betwen Chris Byrd and Ike Ibeabuchi as far as boxing ability is large. Same with Plant and Benavidez
I like how you ignored Amir Khan outboxing Canelo and still losing. I'm sure you think Amir Khan is elite enough of a Boxer for you to understand lol

You also ignored Loma who is a 126 pounder manhandling Haney in the ring. It's ok if you want to ignore these points because of your love for Haney lol

 

[Knicksman20]

Again, you are still not understanding the Boxing ability RELATIVE to the person getting outboxed. I don't know how many time I have to explain that. The distance betwen Chris Byrd and Ike Ibeabuchi as far as boxing ability is large. Same with Plant and Benavidez
I like how you ignored Amir Khan outboxing Canelo and still losing. I'm sure you think Amir Khan is elite enough of a Boxer for you to understand lol

You also ignored Loma who is a 126 pounder manhandling Haney in the ring. It's ok if you want to ignore these points because of your love for Haney lol

Nah lol. YOU don't get it for whatever reason

The skill difference between Ibeabuchi & Byrd is very small & debatable. Ike had a great jab, tremendous speed for a guy his size, & good power. Defensively, he's a lot better & slicker than average people give him credit for. He's was able to apply all of that, match Byrd in skill, plus being the much bigger guy which spelled disaster for Byrd.

Amir Khan has never been elite or had great boxing skills to me. He was a B level fighter. He out boxed Canelo for a few rounds because of his natural gifts, speed & his reach. But like Swift did, Canelo waited for his opportunity to counter punch & ended his night. And Canelo's an elite counter puncher. He had MAJOR flaws that could be exploited because of his habits he never corrected. You should know better because those comparisons aren't helping you lol

Your level of dislike towards Haney is CLEARLY clouding your judgment & posting bro & it's pretty damn obvious to anyone reading it

 

[UpAndComing]

Nah lol. YOU don't get it for whatever reason

The skill difference between Ibeabuchi & Byrd is very small & debatable. Ike had a great jab, tremendous speed for a guy his size, & good power. Defensively, he's a lot better & slicker than average people give him credit for. He's was able to apply all of that, match Byrd in skill, plus being the much bigger guy which spelled disaster for Byrd.

Amir Khan has never been elite or had great boxing skills to me. He was a B level fighter. He out boxed Canelo for a few rounds because of his natural gifts, speed & his reach. But like Swift did, Canelo waited for his opportunity to counter punch & ended his night. And Canelo's an elite counter puncher. He had MAJOR flaws that could be exploited because of his habits he never corrected. You should know better because those comparisons aren't helping you lol

Your level of dislike towards Haney is CLEARLY clouding your judgment & posting bro & it's pretty damn obvious to anyone reading it

This long paragraph, when you could have just said the bolded lol

4 replies later you still have not addressed Loma the 126 pounder manhandling Haney in the Ring. It seems like it's a touchy subject for you. Sorry breh I'll stop bringing it up

 

[Knicksman20]

This long paragraph, when you could have just said the bolded lol

4 replies later you still have not addressed Loma the 126 pounder manhandling Haney in the Ring. It seems like it's a touchy subject for you. Sorry breh I'll stop bringing it up

You can't refute any of that because of your dislike

Just say you hate dude because you wish Shakur was in the same position & keep it moving lol. Didn't you pick Prograis to beat Haney on top of that