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[<<TheStandard>>]

If Tank wants the fight then Shakur can easily do a 1 fight deal if he chooses. The thing is I don't think Shakur is serious about being great. Shakur had a chance with Dev and dissed the offer and now all of a sudden tweeting he can step in for Ryan shortly after saying he was retired.

If Shakur ever loses I have a feeling his breakdown will be worse than Ryan.

From Shakur's words, he didn't diss the offer, he never had a chance to negotiate. He feels like Devin and Bill never operated in good faith to actually make the fight happen.

 

[Apollo Creed]

This is the biggest problem that he has with Top Rank. He went into that fight against James St Patrick, in front of all of that boxing royalty and laid an absolute egg.

There's no questioning his talent, but is he going to actually going to get in the ring with the mindset of putting on a show?

That shyt was a preview of the tank fight. When dudes are athletic with pop Shakur gets shook. This was a showcase fight for Shakur and id argue it hurt his market value big time. Luckily he has a belt so he can get mandos at least but dude is going to get left behind. I dont know enought aboht Ghost to say how he compares with Frank but Frank is legit athlete with respectable power so id assume the fight would have been similar.

 

[Apollo Creed]

From Shakur's words, he didn't diss the offer, he never had a chance to negotiate. He feels like Devin and Bill never operated in good faith to actually make the fight happen.

My issue is Shakur be talking that “man i dknt care about the money i just want a chance”. I can see if there were no belts or one belt on the line but yoh got no belts and this for undpistuted in your like 2nd fight in the division

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Sa

My issue is Shakur be talking that “man i dknt care about the money i just want a chance”. I can see if there were no belts or one belt on the line but yoh got no belts and this for undpistuted in your like 2nd fight in the division

My issue with Shakur is that he's boring and scared to take chances. He's clearly willing to fight anyone. We saw his response this weekend with William Zapeda.

I don't believe Bill or Devin ever truly wanted this fight to happen.

From my conversation with him, I get the sense that he's being truthful.



If Bill and Devin truly wanted this fight to happen, they wouldn't have quickly moved up to 140. Look how much patience they've exhibited to get the fight done with Ryan. Granted, Ryan had a lot to offer with his following and is an easy payday and lick but still, this guy agreed to the fight, backed out because Floyd told him to fight Rolly and they STILL made the fight and even after they made the fight happen they're dealing with Ryan's antics.

Shakur barely got to negotiate or get his team involved. It wasn't real and they're just crafty in using his name.

It's okay, no one wants to fight Shakur because he's not bringing any fans or money, he's boring, you won't look good and you will likely lose.

 

[Iceson Beckford]

The same Shakur that is a 2 division multiple time World Title Champion and wanted to fight Loma and Kambossos, but now they are fighting each other to duck Shakur

Man they forget so easily.

Anyways I need Shakur to wake up and stop letting nikkas play with his name.

 

[theflyest]

clottey hurt his hands against margarito...margarito threw the kitchen sink at that dude...he set a compubox record and could not dent him

that pac fight was disappointing because when clottey let his hands go, pac felt the fukk outta those punches and got marked up too

honestly how clottey picked up a title with his performances is amazing

I was never sold he hurt his hands against Margarito

 

[Yuzo]

andre ward said anthony joshua can't beat you if he can't land the right hand. how true is that statement?

 

[patscorpio]

So many ppl on here were so furious with this fight and aftermath...it was hilarious

 

[Agent Mulder]

Inoue >>> Bud

 

[Apollo Creed]

Sa



My issue with Shakur is that he's boring and scared to take chances. He's clearly willing to fight anyone. We saw his response this weekend with William Zapeda.

I don't believe Bill or Devin ever truly wanted this fight to happen.

From my conversation with him, I get the sense that he's being truthful.



If Bill and Devin truly wanted this fight to happen, they wouldn't have quickly moved up to 140. Look how much patience they've exhibited to get the fight done with Ryan. Granted, Ryan had a lot to offer with his following and is an easy payday and lick but still, this guy agreed to the fight, backed out because Floyd told him to fight Rolly and they STILL made the fight and even after they made the fight happen they're dealing with Ryan's antics.

Shakur barely got to negotiate or get his team involved. It wasn't real and they're just crafty in using his name.

It's okay, no one wants to fight Shakur because he's not bringing any fans or money, he's boring, you won't look good and you will likely lose.

this is terrible Logic.

1.Devin been saying making 135 is hell to make so if it aint Tank he's not wasting time.
2.Shakur is NOT A DRAW, Devin already conquered 135 and said he wants BIG (aka MONEY) FIGHTS, Shakur IS NOT A BIG FIGHT.
3.Devin went to 140 and in his first fight snatched a belt from Regis, and is now fighting Ryan A BIG FIGHT.
4.Once Devin beats Ryan assuming the fight isn't canceled Devin is now in play to Unify with Teo or Matias which are bigger money fights AND stats for his resume.

All while Shakur is tweeting shyt nobody cares about. I know y'all want to stay in the good graces of nikkas so y'all can get interviews but any dude with sense knows Shakur has been moving all wrong and damn near may get to a point where Keyshawn eclipse him.

Shakur is the second coming of Jesus Christ yet put up a fukking stinker over Omari Hardwick lmfaooo you damn right nobody is trying to waste their time on bullshyt like that, fighters or fans. nikkas Eat Bud's dikk but I will say I have NEVER seen Bud do no bullshyt like Shakur who nikkas claim is as good as/this generations equivalent.

This nikka Shakur be tweeting while nikkas making moves while nobody cares about his shyt. Shakur goof ass gonna be tweeting all night when Frank and Tank fight "I GOT THE WINNER, SEND THE CONTACT AL" lmfaooo nikka stfu

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Real talk, fukk Shakur. He puts on nothing but snooze fests, talking about how he's gonna beat nikkas up then literally never engages the entire fight. Turns down a chance at undisputed like he is a money making ass nikka like that just to turn around and say he is being ducked. Everyone else around him has made moves except him and his twitter fingers crybaby ass. He terrible for the sport of boxing I'll be the first one to say it, he does not need to be the face of this sport if you want boxing to actually be exciting.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Real talk, fukk Shakur. He puts on nothing but snooze fests, talking about how he's gonna beat nikkas up then literally never engages the entire fight. Turns down a chance at undisputed like he is a money making ass nikka like that just to turn around and say he is being ducked. Everyone else around him has made moves except him and his twitter fingers crybaby ass. He terrible for the sport of boxing I'll be the first one to say it, he does not need to be the face of this sport if you want boxing to actually be exciting.

.the fact he got time to tweet after literally every few fight every week he want next shows you he a bum lol

 

[patscorpio]

 

[Iceson Beckford]

Devin been saying making 135 is hell to make so if it aint Tank he's not wasting time.

Anyone arguing against this is silly. These guys are mid 20s so no surprise they have both (and Garcia) moved in up in respective divisions. Not worth draining yourself to fight that level of Opposition.

Also.. Devin had to go through the same BS. Pillow hands, boring & people ducking etc & he’s found a way.

Bro gonna Meek Mill his way into an underwhelming career.

He puts on nothing but snooze fests

This ain’t true but it’s gonna stick until he produces something better. Recency Bias is a bytch.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Anyone arguing against this is silly. These guys are mid 20s so no surprise they have both (and Garcia) moved in up in respective divisions. Not worth draining yourself to fight that level of Opposition.

Also.. Devin had to go through the same BS. Pillow hands, boring & people ducking etc & he’s found a way.

Bro gonna Meek Mill his way into an underwhelming career.




This ain’t true but it’s gonna stick until he produces something better. Recency Bias is a bytch.

For every Concecao(sp?) Fight we get outta him we have to suffer through a one sides Jamel Herring(who he couldn't even get out of there really that gift ass stoppage), or an Oscar Valdez or Ghost where he is literally not engaging the entire fukking fight. That's one ho... DECENT fight every 4 fight average and that's so LAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMEEEEEEEE.