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“Al Haymon's PBC were reportedly willing to pay Canelo Alvarez his guaranteed purse for the Jermall Charlo fight in May, but only if he agreed to fight David Benavidez in September. “

Al said you can have ya lil 35 mil, just face david in september
canelo said no
sounds like pbc aint broke, nelo just shook
 

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- Subriel Matias left
- Luis Ortiz left
- Boots is trying to sign with Matchroom
- Canelo left
- Bud left
- Wilder and Spence's careers are winding down


The writing is on the wall. Not even the biggest fans of Top Rank or Matchroom. But they actually operate like a legit promotional company when it comes to marketing and building their fighter's careers. PBC operates like a chitlin circuit
It's unfortunate for the fighters over there. PBC won a couple of battles early but ultimately it looks like they're going to lose the "war". You actually have PBC stans running around sounding like Bob Arum right now :dead:. Talking about recouping money and dudes not being worth xyz amount of money. Times change I tell ya.

Haymon is a genius though. He used other peoples money to overpay dudes he advised, kept them safe for as long as possible while building them up (spence,wilder,tank ), and took his cut. Final move would be for Haymon to sell PBC for some huge amount as the boxing landscape looks like it's going to diminish going forward
 

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“Al Haymon's PBC were reportedly willing to pay Canelo Alvarez his guaranteed purse for the Jermall Charlo fight in May, but only if he agreed to fight David Benavidez in September. “

Al said you can have ya lil 35 mil, just face david in september
canelo said no
sounds like pbc aint broke, nelo just shook

I like how you left out the last part of that info





"It's claimed that Canelo's three-fight deal with PBC initially set out guaranteed purses for various potential opponents, but Benavidez was never one of these"


Just makes PBC look even stupider. So they signed canelo to a 3 fight deal and gave him a list of opponents that would qualify him for his guarantee. Jermall was on the list. David was not(how the fukk):what::mjlol:....PBC has no leg to stand on. Period. Which is why they let canelo walk with no push back. PBC tried to renege on the deal they made and canelo told them to fukk off. PBC is no position to give canelo any ultimatums.

I can understand if the jermell fight flopped. But that shyt did 700k on ppv and a 20mil gate. Canelo delivered on the numbers for them and in return they should have stuck to their word. But of course they lost their showtime deal and no longer have the same budget anymore. But once again. That's not canelo's fault or his problem. You make that jermall fight and trust that you can make that David fight in September or even extend canelo's contract. But by no means do you let him walk.

But it's not surprising we have posters defending PBC not honoring Canelo's full guarantee. These the same posters that defended PBC offering bud ZERO guarantee :heh: ....y'all will defend anything PBC does at this point. These types of shady practices are why PBC is gonna be history soon.
 
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I like how you left out the last part of that info





"It's claimed that Canelo's three-fight deal with PBC initially set out guaranteed purses for various potential opponents, but Benavidez was never one of these"


Just makes PBC look even stupider. So they signed canelo to a 3 fight deal and gave him a list of opponents that would qualify him for his guarantee. Jermall was on the list. David was not(how the fukk):what::mjlol:....PBC has no leg to stand on. Period. Which is why they let canelo walk with no push back. PBC tried to renege on the deal they made and canelo told them to fukk off. PBC is no position to give canelo any ultimatums.

I can understand if the jermell fight flopped. But that shyt did 700k on ppv and a 20mil gate. Canelo delivered on the numbers for them and and in return they should have stuck to their word. But of course they lost their showtime deal and no longer have the same budget anymore. But once again. That's not canelo's fault or his problem. You make that jermall fight and trust that you can make that David fight in September or even extend canelo's contract. But by no means do you let him walk.

But it's not surprising we have posters defending PBC not honoring Canelo's full guarantee. These the same posters that defended PBC offering bud ZERO guarantee :heh: ....y'all will defend anything PBC does at this point. These types of shady practices are why PBC is gonna be history soon.

so basically canelo that shook of david that hed rather jump ship than face a 154 pounder and a drunk 160 pounder first before facing david

gotcha :heh:

al used canelo for the amazon deal, Al always one step ahead :heh:
 

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"It's claimed that Canelo's three-fight deal with PBC initially set out guaranteed purses for various potential opponents, but Benavidez was never one of these"


Just makes PBC look even stupider. So they signed canelo to a 3 fight deal and gave him a list of opponents that would qualify him for his guarantee. Jermall was on the list. David was not(how the fukk.:mjlol:
yea ppl keep bringing up Benavidez but he's kind of irrelevant to what happened here. Even the most optimistic viewpoint never had Benavidez as the SECOND FIGHT. They owed dude $70mil for two fights that wouldn't involve Benavidez . It's clear that those two fights were the Charlo twins
 

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I like how you left out the last part of that info





"It's claimed that Canelo's three-fight deal with PBC initially set out guaranteed purses for various potential opponents, but Benavidez was never one of these"


Just makes PBC look even stupider. So they signed canelo to a 3 fight deal and gave him a list of opponents that would qualify him for his guarantee. Jermall was on the list. David was not(how the fukk):what::mjlol:....PBC has no leg to stand on. Period. Which is why they let canelo walk with no push back. PBC tried to renege on the deal they made and canelo told them to fukk off. PBC is no position to give canelo any ultimatums.

I can understand if the jermell fight flopped. But that shyt did 700k on ppv and a 20mil gate. Canelo delivered on the numbers for them and and in return they should have stuck to their word. But of course they lost their showtime deal and no longer have the same budget anymore. But once again. That's not canelo's fault or his problem. You make that jermall fight and trust that you can make that David fight in September or even extend canelo's contract. But by no means do you let him walk.

But it's not surprising we have posters defending PBC not honoring Canelo's full guarantee. These the same posters that defended PBC offering bud ZERO guarantee :heh: ....y'all will defend anything PBC does at this point. These types of shady practices are why PBC is gonna be history soon.

And the reason they didn't have Benavidez as an opponent initially should be pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.. They don't have the $55m guarantee to put in an escrow account especially after him and Plant flopped on ppv. He already would be taking a short vs Charlo with the $35m because if you remember initially the deal they offered was Charlo for $45m in 2022.. Now if I'm using my imagination I'm sure Canelo told them "Damn Al, yesterday's price REALLY aint todays price huh?"
 
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