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NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Don't think Wilder should fight Zhang with the way his mind is currently. That fight doesn't go the distance.
desjardins
Veteran
This the dark side of the saudis trying to run shytShould've been AJ vs Zhang or Wilder....who asked for Ngannou
It’s Fury fault for making this a viable option tho
What up Sir,
I was emailing to speak on my 90's heavyweight era. After seeing Parker upset Wilder my mind started spinning . I feel the 90's heavyweight contenders (not even mentioning the champions) would have given the champs today hell on earth. Now Usyk to me is the exception to the rule based on his herky jerky style and boxing acrimen. I could see Ray Mercer causing major problems as well as the late Tommy "The Duke"Morrison . Let's not even mention Holyfield , Lennox, Big George , and Bowe . I am convinced that Evander Holyfield would have wore down Wilder and ruined his career. It's true that Fury's skill set is amazing but he could not be out of shape against Holyfield . Let's be honest . So many play into the size difference but didn't Holyfield beat (not on the score cards ) a giant who's name I forgot and out pointed him. You really think the Holyfield that ran the gauntlet through the whole list of 1989 contenders would be embarrassed by Tyson Fury? Believe me Mr. Breadman I have heard this . I am 52 years of age and have been watching boxing since I was 4 years old. I know about the eye test . I saw the ending of the great Ali to the reign of Tyson Fury. I can call a spade a spade Sir. Please let me know what your take on the 90's heavyweights against this era would look like.
Thank you for your great takes as always and kudos to your career as a trainer in this game . I been riding with you for a long time Gee....Michael "Expedite" Blount
Bread’s Response: Fighter for Fighter and Fight for Fight the 90s heavyweights have a case for being the best era ever of heavyweights. Some say it’s the 70s and I won’t argue but it’s razor close. The 1970s and 1990s stand alone in terms of heavyweight talent. Let me tell you how good the 90s were. The Klitschko brothers did not emerge as champions until the best heavyweights of the 90s retired or got old and they turned pro in 1996. And they targeted the WBO belt when the BIG money was in the other 3 titles. But the Klitschkos are firmly planted in the 90s.
So let’s name the 1990s heavyweights. Lennox Lewis, Riddikk Bowe, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Michael Moorer, Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko are the HOFs. 9 Hall of Famers! Then you have the next tier of excellent fighters like Chris Byrd, David Tua, Ike Ibeabuchi, Corrie Sanders, Ray Mercer, Andrew Golota, Razor Ruddock, Tommy Morrison and Hasim Rahman.
I’m not trying to be disrespectful to the heavyweights of today but it’s not even close. There are champions in this era who we would have never heard of if they fought in the 90s. They wouldn’t have had relevant careers in the 90s. Overall the 90s heavyweights would wipe this current crop out.
This era will be lucky to produce 3 HOFs. The only sure lock is Usyk and that’s more because of his work at Cruiserweight. It’s NOT close!!!!! Tell whoever said otherwise they should have a beer on me and watch football.
I was emailing to speak on my 90's heavyweight era. After seeing Parker upset Wilder my mind started spinning . I feel the 90's heavyweight contenders (not even mentioning the champions) would have given the champs today hell on earth. Now Usyk to me is the exception to the rule based on his herky jerky style and boxing acrimen. I could see Ray Mercer causing major problems as well as the late Tommy "The Duke"Morrison . Let's not even mention Holyfield , Lennox, Big George , and Bowe . I am convinced that Evander Holyfield would have wore down Wilder and ruined his career. It's true that Fury's skill set is amazing but he could not be out of shape against Holyfield . Let's be honest . So many play into the size difference but didn't Holyfield beat (not on the score cards ) a giant who's name I forgot and out pointed him. You really think the Holyfield that ran the gauntlet through the whole list of 1989 contenders would be embarrassed by Tyson Fury? Believe me Mr. Breadman I have heard this . I am 52 years of age and have been watching boxing since I was 4 years old. I know about the eye test . I saw the ending of the great Ali to the reign of Tyson Fury. I can call a spade a spade Sir. Please let me know what your take on the 90's heavyweights against this era would look like.
Thank you for your great takes as always and kudos to your career as a trainer in this game . I been riding with you for a long time Gee....Michael "Expedite" Blount
Bread’s Response: Fighter for Fighter and Fight for Fight the 90s heavyweights have a case for being the best era ever of heavyweights. Some say it’s the 70s and I won’t argue but it’s razor close. The 1970s and 1990s stand alone in terms of heavyweight talent. Let me tell you how good the 90s were. The Klitschko brothers did not emerge as champions until the best heavyweights of the 90s retired or got old and they turned pro in 1996. And they targeted the WBO belt when the BIG money was in the other 3 titles. But the Klitschkos are firmly planted in the 90s.
So let’s name the 1990s heavyweights. Lennox Lewis, Riddikk Bowe, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Michael Moorer, Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko are the HOFs. 9 Hall of Famers! Then you have the next tier of excellent fighters like Chris Byrd, David Tua, Ike Ibeabuchi, Corrie Sanders, Ray Mercer, Andrew Golota, Razor Ruddock, Tommy Morrison and Hasim Rahman.
I’m not trying to be disrespectful to the heavyweights of today but it’s not even close. There are champions in this era who we would have never heard of if they fought in the 90s. They wouldn’t have had relevant careers in the 90s. Overall the 90s heavyweights would wipe this current crop out.
This era will be lucky to produce 3 HOFs. The only sure lock is Usyk and that’s more because of his work at Cruiserweight. It’s NOT close!!!!! Tell whoever said otherwise they should have a beer on me and watch football.
money talks bro
UpAndComing
Veteran
Didn't know Dr Dre was a Terence Crawford fan
UpAndComing
Veteran
UpAndComing
Veteran
Facts. Fury has a better chin than AJ and still had to lean back against Ngannou
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Fury has been down by multiple opponents, not even all of them were big punchers like that. He's good at regenerating quick but his chin isn't particularly good
UpAndComing
Veteran
True, but AJ doesn't get up from those punches landed in Wilder-Fury 1
I look forward to rolly getting stripped of that belt
Pretty much..his recovery powers are amazing for somebody that's chinny