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The big question I have for David Benavidez moving up to 175 is

Will he be able to win fights against guys he does not have a physical advantage over? He has a better chance of beating Beterbiev, but not sure he beats Bivol. The benefit is that Benavidez is improving his defense, improving his punch placements, improving his counter punching, improving his jab, etc etc. But it's still a big question mark
 

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The big question I have for David Benavidez moving up to 175 is

Will he be able to win fights against guys he does not have a physical advantage over? He has a better chance of beating Beterbiev, but not sure he beats Bivol. The benefit is that Benavidez is improving his defense, improving his punch placements, improving his counter punching, improving his jab, etc etc. But it's still a big question mark
I think Crusierweight is where David becomes "mortal" cause dude doesn't really have muscle like that. I think at 175 David will still be a pressure fighter, but he def needs to keep adding to his skill bag.
 

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I think Crusierweight is where David becomes "mortal" cause dude doesn't really have muscle like that. I think at 175 David will still be a pressure fighter, but he def needs to keep adding to his skill bag.

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I can confidently say Benavidez at his current skillset has no chance against Jai Opetaia at Cruiserweight
 

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I can confidently say Benavidez at his current skillset has no chance against Jai Opetaia at Cruiserweight


yeah I see them bringing up HW and shyt lmfao fukk no.

If anything Crusierweight will be David's "chasing Greatness" moment. but IMO ne needs to prob take 2 yrs before he hits 31 to do a slow build and put on good muscle and fill out his frame like we saw Bud do at 147. Filll out work on a new style to carry him towards the end of his career.
 

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yeah I see them bringing up HW and shyt lmfao fukk no.

If anything Crusierweight will be David's "chasing Greatness" moment. but IMO ne needs to prob take 2 yrs before he hits 31 to do a slow build and put on good muscle and fill out his frame like we saw Bud do at 147. Filll out work on a new style to carry him towards the end of his career.


Yeah right now he has that "weight drained at 168" body look. All the things people say boxers can exploit means nothing for him at 168, he's just too big. Andrade and Plant were the perfect fighters to supposedly exploit his lack of skills and barely put a dent in him

Not sure but he may have to drop his father as a coach and get someone that can make him a more well rounded fighter when it comes to skillset. He's going to need it at 175 or at Cruiserweight
 

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Yeah right now he has that "weight drained at 168" body look. All the things people say boxers can exploit means nothing for him at 168, he's just too big. Andrade and Plant were the perfect fighters to supposedly exploit his lack of skills and barely put a dent in him

Not sure but he may have to drop his father as a coach and get someone that can make him a more well rounded fighter when it comes to skillset. He's going to need it at 175 or at Cruiserweight

If David spends too long waiting on Canelo he is going to end up in a spence situation where he misses out on the prime years to fill out his body. David being young he can fill out good as hell at 175 and still have time to add to his bag so when he hits his 30s he can rely on Skill Ala Bud and others and not burn out.
 

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Teofimo Lopez Says He Turned Down Offer to Fight Ryan Garcia​

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BY SEAN NAM
Published Mon Nov 27, 2023, 08:29 AM EST
Junior welterweight titlist Teofimo Lopez says he was offended by the paltry purse offered to him for a proposed fight with Ryan Garcia.
Lopez, the former unified lightweight champion from Brooklyn, New York, told reporters Saturday night in Las Vegas during the David Benavidez vs. Demetrius Andrade card that he had rejected an offer to face Garcia for a fight early next year because he would have been remunerated with a payday far below his worth.
Lopez said he was offered $1.5 million to fight Garcia but he was mum on details, such as who had brought him the deal, if it was via Top Rank, his promoter, or Garcia’s promoter, Golden Boy.
Oscar De La Hoya, the founder of Golden Boy, suggested last month that he was interested in making a fight between Garcia and Lopez for February, during Super Bowl weekend, an idea that Top Rank head Bob Arum also endorsed.
“When you’re the best, when you are the guy, when you bring major sponsors, endorsements, big major business deals, when you offer me a 1.5 [million dollars] stake in the piece—f--k you,” Lopez told Boxing News. “So yeah I declined the offer.”
Asked to clarify what his next steps are, Lopez offered a cryptic answer.
“What’s next for me is world wide takeover, that’s what’s next,” Lopez said. “I want to go to Italy, I want to take it to other places in different ways. I got a lot of fan base in Africa, too, I want to go out there. My whole thing is taking it global because nobody else is going to help me in the boxing game no more.”
Lopez (19-1, 13 KOs) recently told BoxingScene.com that he does not plan on fighting anytime soon, saying he “bring too many demands and I don’t get nothin’ back.” In a social media post that went viral in the boxing world, Lopez said collecting garbage pays better than fighting.
Lopez’s enigmatic behavior comes on the heels of one of the best wins of his career: a dominant decision over Josh Taylor, in June, at The Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York City, to earn Taylor’s WBO 140-pound title. Lopez silenced his critics, many of whom felt the troubled 26-year-old would crack during that fight. But immediately after defeating Taylor, Lopez caused another stir by insisting he would retire.
Garcia (23-1, 19 KOs), the 25-year-old star from Victorville, Calif., is set to make his 140-pound debut against Oscar Duarte next week at Toyota Center in Houston. He is coming off a high-profile loss to Gervonta Davis in April.
 

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Teofimo Lopez Says He Turned Down Offer to Fight Ryan Garcia​

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BY SEAN NAM
Published Mon Nov 27, 2023, 08:29 AM EST
Junior welterweight titlist Teofimo Lopez says he was offended by the paltry purse offered to him for a proposed fight with Ryan Garcia.
Lopez, the former unified lightweight champion from Brooklyn, New York, told reporters Saturday night in Las Vegas during the David Benavidez vs. Demetrius Andrade card that he had rejected an offer to face Garcia for a fight early next year because he would have been remunerated with a payday far below his worth.
Lopez said he was offered $1.5 million to fight Garcia but he was mum on details, such as who had brought him the deal, if it was via Top Rank, his promoter, or Garcia’s promoter, Golden Boy.
ya think this is true?

i Have a hard time seeing Ryan’s handlers really wanting a fight were he would take a brutal beating, cuz this fight wouldn’t be competitive at all.
 
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