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Amazon Prime would be good since I already have it and they do some creative shyt broadcasting sports, but probably not good for the sport's visibility/popularity. Les Moonves getting caught up in his shyt was probably the start of the ending because he was apparently a big advocate for boxing at Viacom.

Subscription services and Live sports are such a bad mix IMO. Netflix type audiences caters to the "I'll watch it later and binge watch" crowd

Network/Cable TV is more of a natural fit
 

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Subscription services and Live sports are such a bad mix IMO. Netflix type audiences caters to the "I'll watch it later and binge watch" crowd

Network/Cable TV is more of a natural fit
Yea best option would be a tv deal with an a streaming deal on the side to put some of the lesser cards/prospect showcases on there. While I was not a fan of Stephen Jackson, Showtime had good synergy with using their former NBA players to promote the fight cards, Amazon will be behind the ball on that one. Either way Haymon been promoting music and sports for decades, he'll figure out the next play.
 

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When Manny sees Danny's flat footed telegraphed left hook and counters and knocks him out :ohlawd::whew:
one thing about danny garcia i rate him on is his caveman chin...that fool has faced some real punchers that landed some heat on him without so much as getting dropped once..he'd still get his ass handed to him by pac but he would prolly eat all types of punches and wont get stopped lol
 

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one thing about danny garcia i rate him on is his caveman chin...that fool has faced some real punchers that landed some heat on him without so much as getting dropped once..he'd still get his ass handed to him by pac but he would prolly eat all types of punches and wont get stopped lol

True that. No way Danny gets knocked down by that combination Manny gave to Thurman lol
 

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Bob Arum: Shakur Doesn't Have To Go To PBC Because We Control A Lot Of The Money Now​

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BY KEITH IDEC
Published Fri Oct 06, 2023, 07:34 AM EDT
LAS VEGAS – Bob Arum isn’t concerned that Shakur Stevenson will follow the path of his mentor and eventually align himself with Al Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions to get the fight that he wants most.
Terence Crawford left Arum’s Top Rank Inc., his longtime promoter, following his 10th-round stoppage of Shawn Porter in November 2021. That move later led to Crawford securing his long-awaited showdown with Errol Spence Jr., who has worked with Haymon since he turned pro nearly 11 years ago.
Crawford capitalized on that opportunity by dominating Spence in their welterweight title unification fight July 29 at T-Mobile Arena, where he dropped Spence three times and stopped him in the ninth round. Stevenson doesn’t want to wait nearly as long to square off against Gervonta Davis as Crawford waited to oppose Spence, but Arum assured a group of reporters and videographers recently at Top Rank’s gym that Stevenson won’t need to leave Top Rank to get paid the type of money Stevenson seeks.
“He doesn’t have to go to [PBC] because we control a lot of the money now,” Arum said. “You can see by the fight in Saudi Arabia, and money makes the world go round in boxing.
The 92-year-old Arum referred to the Tyson Fury-Oleksandr Usyk heavyweight title fight, which will be fully funded by The General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia. Top Rank co-promotes England’s Fury, the unbeaten WBC champion, along with Frank Warren’s Queensberry Promotions and helped secure the deal that will bring the Fury-Usyk fight to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Stevenson’s next bout will come against a PBC-affiliated fighter, Edwin De Los Santos. Their 12-round, 135-pound championship clash will be financially supported by ESPN, which affords Top Rank a sizable budget annually as part of its exclusive content agreement with Arum’s company.
Stevenson (20-0, 10 KOs) was supposed to box another southpaw backed by PBC, Frank Martin, on November 16 at T-Mobile Arena. Martin (18-0, 12 KOs) accepted the Stevenson bout, but he withdrew from it several days later and was eventually replaced by De Los Santos (16-1, 14 KOs), who will fight Stevenson for the vacant WBC lightweight title.
“We’re paying opponents money that they haven’t seen,” Arum said. “But sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. We had a deal for this Frank Martin, paying Martin seven or eight times more than he ever made. And his promoter, Tom Brown, went along with that. We made the deal and then the kid pulled out. Now, I don’t know what’s in these kids’ [minds]. But we’ll find, as we go on, top, top talent to fight Shakur. And the boy he’s fighting on the 16th of November is a tough guy, [will] give him a really good fight. But I gotta be honest with you, I don’t think anybody ever beats Shakur.”
Stevenson, 26, has won world titles in the featherweight and junior lightweight divisions during his six-year professional career. Top Rank has promoted the 2016 Olympic silver medalist since the Newark, New Jersey native turned pro.

He not really addressing the real issue though, the Frank Martin situation makes it clear if the Bud one didn't already
Both sides got to be willing to make the fight, it's multiple occasions now where PBC guys turned down career paydays because a better long term in house situation was probably presented to them. And a cash cow ain't going be allowed to cross the street and lose so Arum needs to focus on developing his own in house roster and organically making his own stars. Paying nikkas more to try to keep them happy while they being iced out ain't going work
 

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He not really addressing the real issue though, the Frank Martin situation makes it clear if the Bud one didn't already
Both sides got to be willing to make the fight, it's multiple occasions now where PBC guys turned down career paydays because a better long term in house situation was probably presented to them. And a cash cow ain't going be allowed to cross the street and lose so Arum needs to focus on developing his own in house roster and organically making his own stars. Paying nikkas more to try to keep them happy while they being iced out ain't going work

its a reason Canelo never goes to TR. I feel we are at the point of no return when it comes to the money folks have made compared to the belts. IMO this should be a sign that Promoters need to step up their marketing to create stars vs just thinking holding fights at obscure ass venues will get people hyped.

Ryan Garcia and Tank are proof it is a new day. Devin Haney did everything text book when it comes to legacy and resume and dude gets shyt on the most outta that batch of talent, people shyt on Ryans skills but dude is laughing to the bank.
 
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