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Mental Strength- Ali (for very obvious reasons)
IQ - Mayweather
Chin - Hagler or GGG
Trash Talking - Either Ali, Tyson, or Mayweather
Right Hand - give me Wilder's Straight right hand
Left Hand - Tito's Left hook was beautiful
Power - George Foreman
Body - this one is confusing are we talking physical conditioning or a body attack? I'll answer this one when I get clarification.
Footwork - Sweet Pea all day.

Body is a good one. Idk what they meant
 

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exactly...i dont mind spence being on a p4p list but hasnt done enough to be ranked that high....shyt ive said it before even jermell charlo should be ranked above him..but every p4p list its the other way around OR in some cases charlo not mentioned at all for p4p

So let me get this right… Spence hasn’t done anything to be ranked up high on the P4P list but you think Bud has??? Lmao :deadrose: :mjlol:
 

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WBO Issues Medical Certification Letter To Jermell Charlo Requiring Explanation of Injury And Recovery​

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BY JAKE DONOVAN
Published Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:00 PM EST



Jermell Charlo has already taken steps to silence those who’ve questioned the validity of his untimely injury.

The undisputed junior middleweight champion still has work to do with at least one sanctioning body.

A Notice of Medical Certification was issued to Charlo by the WBO, who has called for a detailed report on the broken hand injury suffered during training camp that delayed his ordered title defense versus Australia’s Tim Tszyu. The two were due to meet in a January 28 Showtime main event at Michelob ULTRA Arena in Las Vegas but it was announced on Christmas Eve that the bout was postponed and without a new fight date in tow.

“Mr. Charlo is hereby ordered to submit within the next 5 days upon issuance of this notice a detailed medical explanation of his injury, findings, recovery prognosis, and his orthopedic specialist’s opinion as to when will he be physically and medically cleared to compete and return to active competition,” WBO Championship Committee chairman Luis Batista-Salas stated to event promoter TGB Promotions’ Tom Brown via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com.

Chario will have until January 1 to provide such proof, though a modest extension to the next business day is likely given the date falls on a weekend (Sunday) and holiday (New Year’s Day).

Ironically, the letter was submitted less than 24 hours after Houston’s Charlo took to social media to in fact provide proof of injury. The reigning lineal/WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO 154-pound king posted a picture showing a short arm cast wrapped around his left hand, wrist and forearm, accompanied by a medical report from Houston Methodist Orthopedics & Sports Medicine. The letter was dated December 23, three days after injuring his hand during a mid-week sparring session.

“Jermell Charlo was seen in my clinic on 12/23/2022,” noted Dr. Vincent Chau Phan. “He has sustained a left scaphoid fracture and 5th metacarpal base fracture. He will be placed in a short arm cast at this time. It is my recommendation that Jermell should refrain from upper extremity training that involves impact for 2 months.”

Charlo (35-1-1, 19KOs) was due to make the first defense of his undisputed championship and third defense at least one belt in his second title reign since regaining the WBC title three years ago. He inherited Australia’s Tszyy (21-0, 15KOs) as a mandatory challenger after he scored a tenth-round knockout of Argentina’s Brian Castano (17-1-2, 12KOs) in their May 14 rematch to fully unify the junior middleweight division.

Tszyu was ringside for the event, having just completed clean-out surgery to both sets of knuckles. The procedure took place roughly a month after his U.S. debut, where he overcame an opening round knockdown to outpoint 2012 U.S. Olympian and former title challenger Terrel Gausha on March 26 in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

At the time of his win over Castano, Charlo was believed to next honor his long-overdue IBF mandatory versus Bakhram Murtazaliev. The WBO intervened in June, ordering its outstanding title fight since an arrangement was in place preceding the undisputed championship. Charlo and Tszyu ultimately agreed to terms last summer, though with their title fight scheduled six months out to January 28.

The recent development endured by Charlo marked the first time in his near 15-year career that he has been forced to postpone a bout due to injury.

The 32-year-old, two-tour junior middleweight champ was forced to wait six months to avenge his lone career defeat, after Tony Harrison—who outpointed Charlo in December 2018 to win the WBC title—suffered an injury which postponed their planned June 2019 rematch. Charlo-Harrison II took place in December 2019, where Charlo scored three knockdowns en route to an eleventh-round knockout at Toyota Arena in Ontario, California.

He then scored an eighth-round knockout of Jeison Rosario to add the WBA/IBF titles to his collection. Efforts to fully unify versus Castano saw the top two junior middleweights fight to a split decision draw in July 2021. A rematch was scheduled for March 19, only for Castano to suffer a slight biceps tear in forcing what became a two-month postponement.

Castano was required to show proof of injury at the time of the delay, with the WBO now following suit with its current 154-pound champion.

“Failure to comply with this order will result in Mr. Charlo waiving all rights hereunder and with the Committee proceeding per WBO Regulations of World Championship Contests,” stated Batista-Salas.

The order could provide grounds for Tszyu to request an interim title fight, as his team is eager to keep the second-generation boxer active while waiting for a rescheduled fight date with Charlo. Based on evidence already provided, Charlo should not be in danger of losing the WBO title outside the ring.
 

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Broner Opens Up About Split with PBC: 'They Told Me the Type of Money You Want, You Gotta Fight Godzilla'​

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BY SEAN NAM
Published Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:23 AM EST
Adrien Broner apparently wasn’t pleased when his former longtime handlers informed him of a slight tweak to his risk-reward calculus.
For the longest time, the career of Broner, the multi-division champion from Cincinnati, was essentially determined by his adviser, Al Haymon, the founder of Premier Boxing Champions, the company which has an exclusive output deal with the premium cable network Showtime. Broner was one of the flagship fighters on the network and routinely given main event slots.
That working relationship came to an apparent end a couple of months ago after Broner announced a multi-fight deal with BLK Prime, a previously unknown subscription streaming service that managed to woo Broner with an "eight figure" (Broner's words) payday.
BLK Prime, whose ownership still remains something of a mystery, made a splash in the sport earlier this month when it staged the welterweight title fight between Terence Crawford and David Avanesyan, which ended with Crawford earning a sixth-round stoppage. Crawford, who holds the WBO 147-pound title, said he was paid $10 million for the Avanesyan fight.
BLK Prime's partnership with Broner will take off Feb. 25 in Atlanta, when Broner faces Ivan Redkach in a welterweight main event on pay-per-view. It will be the first time in nearly two years that Broner has fought.
In a recent interview, Broner stated that the money from BLK Prime was almost too good to be true, and too much, apparently, to turn down.
“The type of contract that I got, man, they ain’t giving out nowadays in this sport of boxing,” Broner said of his new benefactor on The Porter Way Podcast. “These guys (other fighters) is taking these tough-ass fights, getting that small-ass money and they (BLK Prime] done gave me [lots of money]—man, I’m just blessed. I’m just blessed, and I’m thankful and I’m ready to put on a show.”
Broner said the driving factor that led to his new alliance with BLK Prime was that his compensation from PBC would be directly in line with the level of opponent, a notion that, at least on the surface, makes a lot of economic sense. In other words, the tougher the opponent, the higher the payday; the easier the opponent, the lower the payday. But Broner apparently was not on board with that kind of sliding pay scale, the assumption being that in the past he was able to garner high paychecks against lower-tier opposition. When BLK Prime, Broner said, guaranteed him an extravagant purse not bound to the quality of the opponent, the boxer knew that he had to make a pivot. Broner was originally supposed to return to the ring in the summer in a Showtime main event against Omar Figueora, but he pulled out of the fight a week out due to mental health issues.
“Just think, right, you get a guy—no disrespect to Al Or PBC and [Showtime Sports head Stephen] Espinoza and them,” Broner said. “But they, like, [said] ‘aight, the type of money you want, you gotta go in there and fight Godzilla. But we gon’ pay you. But you gotta go fight Godzilla.’ Then you got a guy (BLK Prime) [that said], like, ‘aight we’ll pay you triple that and you can pick whoever the f--- you want to fight.’
“What? What? That’s unheard of.”
Pressed to comment on Broner’s claims, Timothy Smith, a spokesperson for PBC, responded, “We love Adrien and wish him nothing but the best in his future endeavors.’’
Broner also mentioned other financial upsides by linking up with BLK Prime, saying that he will garner a far higher cut of pay-per-view sales and obtain those funds in a far timelier manner than if he were with PBC and Showtime. The two companies are not equivalent, however. BLK Prime, which has a scant track record, streams its pay-per-view events exclusively through the internet (“over the top”), while Showtime, a subsidiary of Viacom Inc., which is a publicly traded company, has the ability to sell its pay-per-views on both linear and digital platforms. It is unclear, moreover, what sort of pay-per-view sales BLK Prime managed to generate from the Crawford-Avanesyan fight.
“There’s more,” Broner said of his contract with BLK Prime. “See this is what people don’t know. So , this what people don’t see. And you get 40% of your pay-per-view buys. What? What? Unheard of. And then another thing is not only do you get 40% but you get 40% on that Monday. Not no six months, we gotta wait until the numbers come in. Not no eight [months], not no year. Monday.”
Broner said it was his coach, veteran trainer Kevin Cunningham, who advised him to not take PBC’s offer. Cunningham, Broner said, then connected him with BLK Prime.
“It was crazy, sh!t,” Broner said. “Well, well, I got a coach who’s just not a coach. You know Kevin Cunningham. He’s more than just a coach. Things was going on in boxing, in PBC, and all [that], so from the inside, you could see things going on and things was getting shady, and I was, like, now it’s time to go and find some different money. So, he made a call and in three days it happened.
He was, like, man, because what they was trying to do—he’s not a coach that will just sit back and, alright, I’ll take this cuz I gotta take this. He was, like, ‘hell nah. You ain’t gotta take that. You’re still in a great spot in your career and they ain’t moving you right. So we gon’ do something that fit more for you.’ So that’s what we did. And BLK Prime came along.”
When asked if he was worried if BLK Prime could keep up with such extravagant paydays, Broner dismissed those concerns.
“It ain’t my problem,” Broner said. “As long as I do my job everything gon’ be good.”
Broner also suggested that other fighters in the PBC circuit were not being properly served. He pointed to the example of WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo, who has not fought in nearly two years, as a prime example.
“Man, first of all, fighters gotta get a real promoter,” Broner said. “Like I said, I don’t want to downtalk Al Haymon and how he run his business because he changed my life, but what they doin’ to us fighters is f---ed up. You gotta think Charlo, he’s a unified world champion [sic] and he ain’t fought in 18 months. These are good years off their careers that they can be busy.
“I go get a deal where I’m fighting three times in one year. Guaranteed eight figures. Unheard of.”
 
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