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chunky_mcdaniels
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Yep.
I’d say 80%-85% are on PEDS out of camp, or in the lead up to camp.
In camp it’s a bit more complicated, but the fighters that are big investments/payoffs A-sides, experienced, specific gyms etc have a more polished team finessing the whole thing from the ground up.
chunky_mcdaniels
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Jobber for the most part, I will credit him for always (and strangely) bouncing back with confidence and strong delusions of grandeur. Fake it till you make it lol
chunky_mcdaniels
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chunky_mcdaniels
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Derrick James pad work (different to most trainers) could be great for Joshua.
People shyt on Joshua. He fought a great fight against Usyk in number 2. Just came up against a smaller hw with an engine and pedigree unlike many others.
If im AJ im taking part in charlo and EJs camps then fighting come fall.
damn he was sick?!!!
Broner: 'I’m Not Just One of The Elite, I’m One of The Greats of All Times'
BY SEAN NAM
Published Mon Dec 19, 2022, 09:21 AM EST
Adrien Broner’s career these days may be in flux, but his legacy apparently isn’t.
The multiple-weight champion from Cincinnati, Ohio, isn’t too concerned that his inconsistencies in and out of the ring will have any bearing on how he is perceived in posterity. Broner will return to the sport after a nearly two-year absence on Feb. 18 against Ivan Redkach in the main event of a BLK Prime-promoted 10-round welterweight bout in Atlanta.
“I’m not just one of the elite,” Broner told Brian Custer on The Last Stand Podcast. “I’m one of the greats of all times. When I’m done, I’ll be in them books forever, man. I’ve done some [things] that not too many people have done in this sport. And I’m going to do more in this sport, so keep watching.”
Broner was at one point regarded as one of the most talented and popular young boxers in American boxing, but his stock has waned in recent years due to a combination of losses in the ring and troubles he has faced outside of it. He was, for example, scheduled to fight earlier this year against Omar Figueroa in a Showtime main event, but he pulled out of the match one week out due to mental health issues. Broner also spent time in the slam last year after he violated his probation connected to an assault charge.
It also has not helped that Broner the fighter has not achieved the promise he showed when he was coming up through the ranks as one of the flagship fighters on HBO. In addition, in the toughest fights of his career, he has generally come up short, notching losses at the hands of Marcos Maidana, Shawn Porter, and Manny Pacquiao. In his last outing in the ring, in 2021, Broner outpointed Jovanie Santiago via unanimous decision, but many observers felt the fight was worthy of a draw.
Despite the many travails, Broner has promised a new leaf. In October, he announced a multi-fight deal with newcomer BLK Prime, a subscription streaming platform that recently produced the Terence Crawford-Davis Avanesyan welterweight title fight that took place in Omaha, Nebraska. It was a surprising move, in part because Broner had long been associated with influential power broker Al Haymon, the founder of Premier Boxing Champions, and his broadcasting partner, Showtime.
With a new benefactor backing his career, Broner hopes to get back to his former self with a win over Redkach.
“It’s going to be very different because I’ve learned from my mistakes,” Broner said.” This time around that God gave me, you know, it’s time to change. They say you can’t be looking for change doing the same things. You gotta change things. That’s what I’m doing this time around.”
He added, “[It’s] About Boxing, About Business, but I Ain’t Bullsh!tting.”
BY SEAN NAM
Published Mon Dec 19, 2022, 09:21 AM EST
Adrien Broner’s career these days may be in flux, but his legacy apparently isn’t.
The multiple-weight champion from Cincinnati, Ohio, isn’t too concerned that his inconsistencies in and out of the ring will have any bearing on how he is perceived in posterity. Broner will return to the sport after a nearly two-year absence on Feb. 18 against Ivan Redkach in the main event of a BLK Prime-promoted 10-round welterweight bout in Atlanta.
“I’m not just one of the elite,” Broner told Brian Custer on The Last Stand Podcast. “I’m one of the greats of all times. When I’m done, I’ll be in them books forever, man. I’ve done some [things] that not too many people have done in this sport. And I’m going to do more in this sport, so keep watching.”
Broner was at one point regarded as one of the most talented and popular young boxers in American boxing, but his stock has waned in recent years due to a combination of losses in the ring and troubles he has faced outside of it. He was, for example, scheduled to fight earlier this year against Omar Figueroa in a Showtime main event, but he pulled out of the match one week out due to mental health issues. Broner also spent time in the slam last year after he violated his probation connected to an assault charge.
It also has not helped that Broner the fighter has not achieved the promise he showed when he was coming up through the ranks as one of the flagship fighters on HBO. In addition, in the toughest fights of his career, he has generally come up short, notching losses at the hands of Marcos Maidana, Shawn Porter, and Manny Pacquiao. In his last outing in the ring, in 2021, Broner outpointed Jovanie Santiago via unanimous decision, but many observers felt the fight was worthy of a draw.
Despite the many travails, Broner has promised a new leaf. In October, he announced a multi-fight deal with newcomer BLK Prime, a subscription streaming platform that recently produced the Terence Crawford-Davis Avanesyan welterweight title fight that took place in Omaha, Nebraska. It was a surprising move, in part because Broner had long been associated with influential power broker Al Haymon, the founder of Premier Boxing Champions, and his broadcasting partner, Showtime.
With a new benefactor backing his career, Broner hopes to get back to his former self with a win over Redkach.
“It’s going to be very different because I’ve learned from my mistakes,” Broner said.” This time around that God gave me, you know, it’s time to change. They say you can’t be looking for change doing the same things. You gotta change things. That’s what I’m doing this time around.”
He added, “[It’s] About Boxing, About Business, but I Ain’t Bullsh!tting.”
Dubois Will Be Out For Several Months Due To ACL Tear, Says Barry McGuigan
BY BOXINGSCENE STAFF
Published Mon Dec 19, 2022, 11:51 AM EST
WBA "regular" heavyweight champion Daniel Dubois is going to be on the shelf for several months after suffering a leg injury during his most recent fight.
Back on December 3 at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, as part of the undercard to Tyson Fury's defense against Derek Chisora, Dubois avoided disaster by stopping Kevin Lerena in the third round.
During the first round, Dubois was clipped to the top on his head and seemed to go down after his legs buckled.
He would go down two more times, voluntarily, after being unable to put weight on his leg. Between rounds, Dubois would indicate to his corner that his leg was injured.
Dubois would eventually catch Lerena with a big shot in the third, dropping the South African boxer to the mat. He then pounded Lerena with punches to force the stoppage.
The WBA recently ordered their 'super' champion, Oleksandr Usyk, to make a mandatory defense against Dubois.
Shane McGuigan, who heads Dubois' corner, would later explain that his fighter likely tore his ACL.
McGuigan's father, former world champion Barry McGuigan, confirmed the injury.
“Well, it’s interesting. Dan has a tear on his ACL, and as soon as we got the news that he had a tear on his ACL, suddenly he was offered the fight [with Usyk] – which he can’t have, he can’t box for six months now anyway because of the repair time," Barry McGuigan told Pro Boxing Fans.
“He got hit on top of the head the last time, and when he stepped back he tore his ACL and his balance was very badly affected. He had to come back from adversity and he showed that he could do that. He kept his cool. Shane’s advice in the corner was great, kept him nice and relaxed, used his boxing skills, and walked Kevin Lerena onto that right hand and the finish was spectacular.
“I don’t think it’s fair to make him fight when he’s unwell, so he’ll need a leave of absence as it were, but he’s ready to fight the top guys,” Barry continued. “I’d rather he fought someone like [Anthony] Joshua or Tyson Fury rather than Usyk, cause Usyk is a bag of tricks and he’s a southpaw, but I’ve no fear of him fighting any of these guys.”
