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[L68]

Honestly Andrade is clearly a far superior boxer to Munguia, so on that I hold him to a higher standard.

Two Andrade done did a lot of shyt to get shyt on bro. They don't come for his head for no reason.

Munguia just isn't worth mentioning at all he really is a complete waste of time.

Folks mainly shyt on Andrade because it is very obvious he could and should be further along in his career than where he is.

Plus Andrade is about to be 35.. Munguia is 26.. Munguia is also a bum hunter but he has time to change that and stem up his comp.

Doo Doos time is almost up..

 

[Apollo Creed]

Janibek Alimkhanuly Seeks New Foe, After Jaime Munguia's Team Declines WBO Title Fight

BY JAKE DONOVAN
Published Fri Dec 02, 2022, 11:45 AM EST
Janibek Alimkhanuly and Jaime Munguia will once again go their separate ways.

BoxingScene.com has confirmed that the previously ordered WBO middleweight title fight is no longer in play, as Munguia’s team informed the WBO of their decision to head in another direction. The decision comes days after the sanctioning body assigned a 15-day negotiation period for the two sides to work out terms.

It took less than a week for Munguja’s side to opt for other opportunities in 2023.

“We can confirm that Jaime Munguia (through co-promoters Zanfer Boxing and Golden Boy Promotions) declined to proceed with his mandatory title fight with our middleweight champion Janibek Alimkhanuly,” Gustavo Oliveiri, lead counsel for WBO, confirmed to BoxingScene.com. “We have notified the representatives for Janibek of their decision.”

The development means that Tijuana’s Munguia (41-0, 33KOs) will no longer retain his mandatory challenger status with the WBO. A decision was not yet made as this goes to publish whether Alikmhanuly will be instructed to face the next available contender or if the unbeaten Kazakh boxer is free to make a voluntary title defense.

What it does mean is another scenario where the reigning WBO middleweight titlist is left without a fight against the opponent of his choice.

“Who’s next,” Alimkhanuly questioned after being informed of Munguia’s decision. “Now what? Do you still doubt that I'm a middleweight nightmare? No, I'm not a nightmare anymore. I am the middleweight king!

“Where are the champions? Where are the stars? Your king is looking for you!”

Interestingly, Munguia is also looking at the other middleweight titlists—just not the one his team has now twice declined to face.

Munguia previously told BoxingScene.com of his desire to pursue big fights with WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo (32-0, 22KOs) and unified WBA/IBF champ Gennadiy Golovkin.

The latter option seems highly unlikely, as Golovkin (42-2-1, 37KOs) is saddled with two mandatory title defenses, including ongoing negotiations for IBF number one ranked Esquiva Falcao. The winner will likely have to next face WBA mandatory and secondary titlist Erislandy Lara, a fight that was previously ordered but put on hold when the sanctioning bodies agreed to allow Falcao to go first in the rotation.

Munguia previously had an opportunity to face Charlo, as he was—and still remains—the number one contender. A deal was seemingly in place for a June 18 Showtime headliner in Charlo’s hometown of Houston, Texas, only for talks to collapse at the eleventh hour upon the insistence of Zanfer and Golden Boy for DAZN—with whom Golden Boy as a long-term output deal—to be involved in the event.

Charlo has not fought since then, as a back injury prevented him from proceeding with a June 18 voluntary defense versus Maciej Sulecki. A combination of out-of-ring issues and the lack of fourth-quarter dates for Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) has left him on the shelf, although the unbeaten two-division titlist insisted in a recent Instagram Live session of his intention to return to the ring next February.

It’s a wild card option for Munguia to land the assignment, though it will require a more successful negotiation period the second time around. Such was not the case with Alikmhanuly, as Munguia’s team also declined to enter talks for an ordered interim middleweight title fight earlier this year.

Alimkhanuly (13-0, 8KO) was originally due at the time to face then-WBO middleweight titlist Demetrius Andrade (31-0, 19KOs), who instead pursued an opportunity at super middleweight. The 29-year-old Kazakh southpaw went on to face England’s Danny Dignum, whom he knocked out inside of two rounds on May 21 in Las Vegas.

A fight with Andrade was ordered for a second time, only for the undefeated two-division titlist from Providence to decline and ultimately vacate his title. Alimkhnauly’s reign was upgraded to full title status, having successfully lodged his first defense in a twelve-round, unanimous decision win over England’s Denzel Bentley in the main event of a November 12 ESPN+ telecast from Las Vegas, where his last five fights have taken place.

Munguia fought one week later, scoring a third-round knockout of overmatched Gonzalo Gaston Coria atop a November 19 DAZN telecast from Arena Astros in Guadalajara, Mexico.

After the fight, he reiterated his desire to face Charlo or Golovkin, interestingly not making any mention of Alimkhanuly. The WBO took care of that problem, ordering the fight less than 24 hours later—a move that has ultimately freed up the mandatory slot and presumably ends any chance of their paths crossing anytime soon.

Jake Donovan is a senior writer for BoxingScene.com. Twitter: @JakeNDaBox

he needs to unify with Jermall

 

[patscorpio]

damn...just glad he's ok. hope he retires but it's hard to tell a fighter that. the ring usually forces the retirement

dude had swelling of the brain...that is the end of his career...if he has miraculously regained his full powers..he should be thankful...i dont see how he gets licensed in any places that is not lawless

reminds me of that UK fighter that got a brain bleed after a fight with eubank jr...but he recovered damn near instantly...his full powers..then foolishly decided to spar which put him back in the coma and he didnt recover completely to this day

hopefully he finds purpose out of the ring

 

[Tanahashi Coates]

Honestly Andrade is clearly a far superior boxer to Munguia, so on that I hold him to a higher standard.

Two Andrade done did a lot of shyt to get shyt on bro. They don't come for his head for no reason.

Munguia just isn't worth mentioning at all he really is a complete waste of time.

Folks mainly shyt on Andrade because it is very obvious he could and should be further along in his career than where he is.

I've said before that Andrade isn't 100% blameless. However, his detractors use his actions and words at 154 to justify the shyt that happened at 160. Even after Billy Ho got popped, Andrade wanted that. Billy Ho moves up to 168 to fight Shefat for a vacant and gets rewarded.

I don't blame him for reupping with DAZN when they promised him GGG or Canelo and they both turned him down to fight guys with lesser accomplishments and resumes. Espinoza was on Twitter last week getting pressed about the Mall offer and went silent after juelzing.

For the record, I wanted him to take both fights. Janibek has "fans" because people hate Andrade that much You see how quick they flipped after Bentley? Now he's a bum like when the WBO mandated the fight. Parker gave him the chance to become mandatory but Ryder was always the plan for Canelo after he signed the 3 fight deal. We know damn well that Canelo would drop the belt and his biggest dikksuckers would've justified it.

 

[patscorpio]

TR stays picking up the prospects...someone finally signed Brian...thats a good look

Top Rank Signs Blue-Chip Talents Brian Norman Jr. & Rohan Polanco Norman and Polanco will make Top Rank debuts January 14th on the Efe Ajagba-Oscar Rivas undercard at Turning Stone Resort Casino

(Dec. 2, 2022) — Top Rank has signed a pair of undefeated standouts, Atlanta-born welterweight Brian Norman Jr. and Dominican junior welterweight Rohan Polanco, to multi-fight promotional agreements. Norman and Polanco will make their Top Rank debuts Saturday, Jan. 14, at Turning Stone Resort Casino on the ESPN+-streamed undercard of the heavyweight main event between Efe Ajagba and Oscar Rivas. “Brian and Rohan are elite talents with world championship potential, and we expect 2023 to be the start of something special for both young men,” said Top Rank chairman Bob Arum. The 22-year-old Norman (22-0, 19 KOs) comes from a fighting pedigree. His father and trainer, Brian Norman Sr., fought the likes of former light heavyweight champion Jean Pascal during a 28-fight professional career that spanned from 2003-2011. The younger Norman has gained invaluable experience in the gym working alongside Terence “Bud” Crawford, Gervonta “Tank” Davis, and Jaron “Boots” Ennis. He turned pro in January 2018 and went 11-0 in his first year in the paid ranks. Norman bested Flavio Rodriguez by technical decision in March 2020, earning a hard-fought victory on a nationally televised card. He won four fights in 2021, including a fifth-round TKO over Benjamin Whitaker and a trio of knockout victories in Atlanta. Norman, who hopes to leap toward title contention in 2023, is managed by Fighters First Management. Norman said, “I’m thankful for this opportunity. I worked hard to get here and will work even harder to push my limits. January 14th will be my first fight in over a year, so I have to put on a big show. I’m doing everything in training camp to make sure I exceed my own expectations.” “This is our first fighter signed with a major promotional company, and we couldn't be any happier that it is Top Rank,” said Jolene Mizzone, President of Fighters First Management. “We look forward to working together and getting Brian Norman, Jr. to that championship level." Polanco (8-0, 5 KOs) turned pro before the Tokyo Olympics and went 4-0 with two knockouts in Mexico and the Dominican Republic. In his opening Olympic bout, he lost a split decision to Uzbekistan’s Bobo-Usmon Baturov. “El Rayo” made his stateside debut last November, knocking out Gabriel Fernando Punalef Calfin in three rounds. Two weeks later, he won a unanimous decision over Jonathan Jose Eniz. Polanco won two fights in 2022, most recently knocking out noted journeyman Dedrick Bell with a second-round body shot. Polanco said, “I’m grateful for the opportunity to sign with Top Rank. I’ve devoted my life to boxing, and I’m blessed to share my talent at this level. I’ll step in the ring again January 14th at Turning Stone, and I look forward to putting on a show for the fans. I want to thank God, my family, my trainer Hector Bermudez, my manager Gary Hyde, and all my supporters along the way. If you don’t know my name, you’re going to know it soon. See you in January!” “I’m delighted Rohan signed with the best promoter in boxing,” Hyde said. “I’m sure Top Rank will guide my guy to the top, and he will soon be in the mix of an already exciting 140-pound division.”

 

[aceboon]

TR stays picking up the prospects...someone finally signed Brian...thats a good look

​ Top Rank Signs Blue-Chip Talents Brian Norman Jr. & Rohan Polanco Norman and Polanco will make Top Rank debuts January 14th on the Efe Ajagba-Oscar Rivas undercard at Turning Stone Resort Casino ​ ​

​ (Dec. 2, 2022) — Top Rank has signed a pair of undefeated standouts, Atlanta-born welterweight Brian Norman Jr. and Dominican junior welterweight Rohan Polanco, to multi-fight promotional agreements. Norman and Polanco will make their Top Rank debuts Saturday, Jan. 14, at Turning Stone Resort Casino on the ESPN+-streamed undercard of the heavyweight main event between Efe Ajagba and Oscar Rivas. “Brian and Rohan are elite talents with world championship potential, and we expect 2023 to be the start of something special for both young men,” said Top Rank chairman Bob Arum. The 22-year-old Norman (22-0, 19 KOs) comes from a fighting pedigree. His father and trainer, Brian Norman Sr., fought the likes of former light heavyweight champion Jean Pascal during a 28-fight professional career that spanned from 2003-2011. The younger Norman has gained invaluable experience in the gym working alongside Terence “Bud” Crawford, Gervonta “Tank” Davis, and Jaron “Boots” Ennis. He turned pro in January 2018 and went 11-0 in his first year in the paid ranks. Norman bested Flavio Rodriguez by technical decision in March 2020, earning a hard-fought victory on a nationally televised card. He won four fights in 2021, including a fifth-round TKO over Benjamin Whitaker and a trio of knockout victories in Atlanta. Norman, who hopes to leap toward title contention in 2023, is managed by Fighters First Management. Norman said, “I’m thankful for this opportunity. I worked hard to get here and will work even harder to push my limits. January 14th will be my first fight in over a year, so I have to put on a big show. I’m doing everything in training camp to make sure I exceed my own expectations.” “This is our first fighter signed with a major promotional company, and we couldn't be any happier that it is Top Rank,” said Jolene Mizzone, President of Fighters First Management. “We look forward to working together and getting Brian Norman, Jr. to that championship level." Polanco (8-0, 5 KOs) turned pro before the Tokyo Olympics and went 4-0 with two knockouts in Mexico and the Dominican Republic. In his opening Olympic bout, he lost a split decision to Uzbekistan’s Bobo-Usmon Baturov. “El Rayo” made his stateside debut last November, knocking out Gabriel Fernando Punalef Calfin in three rounds. Two weeks later, he won a unanimous decision over Jonathan Jose Eniz. Polanco won two fights in 2022, most recently knocking out noted journeyman Dedrick Bell with a second-round body shot. Polanco said, “I’m grateful for the opportunity to sign with Top Rank. I’ve devoted my life to boxing, and I’m blessed to share my talent at this level. I’ll step in the ring again January 14th at Turning Stone, and I look forward to putting on a show for the fans. I want to thank God, my family, my trainer Hector Bermudez, my manager Gary Hyde, and all my supporters along the way. If you don’t know my name, you’re going to know it soon. See you in January!” “I’m delighted Rohan signed with the best promoter in boxing,” Hyde said. “I’m sure Top Rank will guide my guy to the top, and he will soon be in the mix of an already exciting 140-pound division.”

long overdue, dude was caught up in BLK Prime purgatory. didn't understand why Showtime didn't at least feature him on a few more Shobox dates.

 

[patscorpio]

long overdue, dude was caught up in BLK Prime purgatory. didn't understand why Showtime didn't at least feature him on a few more Shobox dates.

yeah..nikkas had him as "brain norman" on the site

 

[Black_Jesus]

he needs to unify with ggg

Fixed

 

[aceboon]

 

[FreedMind]

 

[Bigblackted4]

Blood boxing introduced me to this dude

 

[Bigblackted4]

Good fight on probox

 

[morris]

anyone have a link to this?

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Glanton pretty much got robbed but whatever. Okolie would have probably exposed him if they ever fough, he’s kinda basic.

 

[morris]

Casimero about to get jobbed.
Dude is faking it hard core