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[Black_Jesus]

@R=G bro I can't get the image of Lamont Peterson thoroughly and completely outclassing Avaneseyan, and I can't get the image of Mid Machine beating the dog shyt out of him out of my head.

I get he is on a 6 fight KO streak, but he has had two chances already to show he is a real contender and he has fell flat on his face(somewhat literally the second time) both times.

I need someone to explain to me what I'm not seeing that would make anyone think this will be a tough fight. Outside of having a lil pop what does he really have for Crawford?

Did he really get thourougly and completely outclassed by Peterson though?? What I saw was a pretty competitive fight that was back n forth where Peterson started to pull away in the second half... A fight where someone is getting completely outclassed looks like Floyd vs Canelo or Shakur vs Valdez..

Yall can say whatever yall want about Mean Machine but the the only real reason he gets so much disrespect is when you know whos fans wanna discredit someone's resume.. MM is a decent ww with huge power.. we seen that vs Avenysean, Crawford, and Virgil where MM dropped all three.. if Mean Machine or Avenysean was signed to PBC with tailor-made matchmaking their name would be Stanionis..

There was also Avanesyan vs Josh Kelly.. Josh Kelly is another contender who was supposed to beat Avenysean and got stopped.. this another fight gets overlooked.. as well as the fight vs Mosely.. Yes Mosely was done but Avanesyan proved he was contender by sending Mosely home with an L

 

[R=G]

Time to buy some Thor Kettlebells

 

[patscorpio]

iron sharpens iron

 

[desjardins]

. if Mean Machine or Avenysean was signed to PBC with tailor-made matchmaking their name would be Stanionis..

damn
Stanionis look aight but really he still mostly potential at this point instead of some proven elite fighter who's clearly a level above those guys.
Boots did their common opponent way dirtier

 

[Conscious Pilot]

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Did he really get thourougly and completely outclassed by Peterson though?? What I saw was a pretty competitive fight that was back n forth where Peterson started to pull away in the second half... A fight where someone is getting completely outclassed looks like Floyd vs Canelo or Shakur vs Valdez..

Yall can say whatever yall want about Mean Machine but the the only real reason he gets so much disrespect is when you know whos fans wanna discredit someone's resume.. MM is a decent ww with huge power.. we seen that vs Avenysean, Crawford, and Virgil where MM dropped all three.. if Mean Machine or Avenysean was signed to PBC with tailor-made matchmaking their name would be Stanionis..

There was also Avanesyan vs Josh Kelly.. Josh Kelly is another contender who was supposed to beat Avenysean and got stopped.. this another fight gets overlooked.. as well as the fight vs Mosely.. Yes Mosely was done but Avanesyan proved he was contender by sending Mosely home with an L

Nah Mean Machine gets it because he got a gift draw versus Splenda Ray Robinson but somehow ended up as the mandatory.

I mean if Josh Kelly(who also got a gift draw against Splenda Ray Robinson) and 44 year old Shane Mosley are what makes him a contender then I guess he is one.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Nah Mean Machine gets it because he got a gift draw versus Splenda Ray Robinson but somehow ended up as the mandatory.

I mean if Josh Kelly(who also got a gift draw against Splenda Ray Robinson) and 44 year old Shane Mosley are what makes him a contender then I guess he is one.

Ray Robinson was also a contender though.. How can you shyt on 1 contender cause he got a draw vs another contender but then never mention Shawn Porter getting a draw vs bum ass journeyman Julio Diaz??? Spence bout to fight Keef thurman explain how this washed nikka became Spence mando..This is where the hypocrisy and bias comes in because yall too selective with your outrage.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Ray Robinson was also a contender though.. How can you shyt on 1 contender cause he got a draw vs another contender but then never mention Shawn Porter getting a draw vs bum ass journeyman Julio Diaz??? Spence bout to fight Keef thurman explain how this washed nikka became Spence mando..This is where the hypocrisy and bias comes in because yall too selective with your outrage.

Because Ray Robinson got his ass beat by a guy who I've seen get no respect in Ugas.

Shawn Porter is a two time champ, maybe he had a bad night who knows, he's still a two time champ.

I'm not a fan of a Spence vs Thurman fight in 2022 it's a waste of time just like the Danny fight was(I said it before the fight that fight was a waste of time; Ugas had a belt so that was an acceptable fight.).I would have preferred Stanionis or Boots, hell even Vergil Ortiz over Thurman or Avaneseyan. At least with those 3 there is an air of mystery there since they are all undefeated and young. Spence/Thurman and Crawford/Avanesyan are both just two nikkas chasing a bag, neither fight does anything for their legacy.

 

[Derek Lee]

 

[Knicksman20]

I remember HUGE flame wars on boxingscene because of this fight & ref. Pac got KO'ed by a jab but that guy was a dirty ass fighter

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I remember HUGE flame wars on boxingscene because of this fight & ref. Pac got KO'ed by a jab but that guy was a dirty ass fighter

I counted off the clock from the time he hit the mat to the time he got up. He first hit the mat as the clock went from 2:24 to 2:23, and he got up on his feet after they took the clock off the screen by one or two seconds after. They took the clock off the screen at 2:14. That was a stoppage, the other guy may be dirty but he won that one clean.

 

[Knicksman20]

I counted off the clock from the time he hit the mat to the time he got up. He first hit the mat as the clock went from 2:24 to 2:23, and he got up on his feet after they took the clock off the screen by one or two seconds after. They took the clock off the screen at 2:14. That was a stoppage, the other guy may be dirty but he won that one clean.

I'm not disputing that. I said above he got KO'ed by a jab lol. But dude was dirty

 

[R=G]

 

[Conscious Pilot]

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

I just re-watched Spence vs Ugas earlier today

Props to Spence for beating him down but Ugas fought a really stupid fight lol. But one thing I wanna emphasize is that Spence is a very physically strong dude. I always knew this but Ugas is usually very physical with fighters but he couldn't muscle Spence; & Ugas is strong himself.

But one glaring thing I saw that fight is Spence is open for a sweeping right hand & the overhand right. I remember Porter landing those shots in his fight with him & Ugas did it too, but it obviously had more pop & you can tell. Spence better tighten that up

Where did you rewatch the fight?