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[Megadeus]

Then what is this about.. Loma had no prob going to Australia and Haney was bytching about it..



“Let’s stop creating the narrative that it only can happen in Australia. Let’s open it up and let’s open up talks that it can happen anywhere in the world. It’s whoever brings the most money. Don’t you think so?”

"When Devin said Jupiter he said Jupiter because he didn’t want to stand in the way," Bill Haney said. "We came here [to New York City] and we’re looking at this and looking at the press that’s showing up and I think that the men’s lightweight division will get even more support here.

“It’ll be a huge fight anywhere, but [the question is] are you dead set on putting on obstacles for that fight [by insisting on fighting in Australia]. The main message I would have for the Kambosos team is, 'don’t put any obstacles, and let’s make this s--- happen.'”

So tentatively negotiating favorable terms for both sides= bytching and saying no?


I'll ask one more time

When did he say he wouldn't go to Australia? How is that what you interpreted from this?

When did he imply he wouldnt leave the USA? After he had already presented an even more lucrative deal to go to United Arab Emirates? Post the report that says this please.

Hearn Exploring Offers to Stage Kambosos-Haney in the Middle East

“We’ve had an offer from the Middle East for Devin Haney vs. Kambosos,” Hearn said on the DAZN Boxing Show. “This is one we’re edging towards, where we’re receiving a firm offer for.

Kambosos has said out his own mouth his decision to fight Haney will be based mostly on MONEY, hes made that clear and stressed this throughout the process.


Haney then presented options that could get them much more money than they would in Australia. Kambosos then backtracked and said NO i dont care if its more money, it has to be in Australia, then Haney said thats fine. They never said no to Australia fukk are you talking about?









Eddie Hearn: George Kambosos Jr not being told the truth by his team, Devin Haney ready to go to Australia for undisputed fight

Hearn stressed that Haney (27-0, 15 KO) is absolutely ready to go, and that everyone on their side acknowledge that Kambosos (20-0, 10 KO) is “the man” at lightweight at the moment, which is why Haney is willing to travel to Australia for the bout.


With Haney it was "you have to look good vs, JoJo diaz" and Kambosos even attended his fight to critique him and admitted he looked good, "but the money has to be right", You have to come to Australia You have to do this, You have to have this", but he didnt provide any of those stipulations for Loma, at all. He created numerous obstacles for Devin, as Bill stated, yet Devin still agreed to everything in the end

You dudes just be saying any old nonsense on here man.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Fenech was such a grubby fighter. Made Jake La Motta look like Pernell Whitaker.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

So tentatively negotiating favorable terms for both sides= bytching and saying no?


I'll ask one more time

When did he say he wouldn't go to Australia? How is that what you interpreted from this?

When did he imply he wouldnt leave the USA? After he had already presented an even more lucrative deal to go to United Arab Emirates? Post the report that says this please.

Hearn Exploring Offers to Stage Kambosos-Haney in the Middle East

“We’ve had an offer from the Middle East for Devin Haney vs. Kambosos,” Hearn said on the DAZN Boxing Show. “This is one we’re edging towards, where we’re receiving a firm offer for.

Kambosos has said out his own mouth his decision to fight Haney will be based mostly on MONEY, hes made that clear and stressed this throughout the process.


Haney then presented options that could get them much more money than they would in Australia. Kambosos then backtracked and said NO i dont care if its more money, it has to be in Australia, then Haney said thats fine. They never said no to Australia fukk are you talking about?









Eddie Hearn: George Kambosos Jr not being told the truth by his team, Devin Haney ready to go to Australia for undisputed fight

Hearn stressed that Haney (27-0, 15 KO) is absolutely ready to go, and that everyone on their side acknowledge that Kambosos (20-0, 10 KO) is “the man” at lightweight at the moment, which is why Haney is willing to travel to Australia for the bout.


With Haney it was "you have to look good vs, JoJo diaz" and Kambosos even attended his fight to critique him and admitted he looked good, "but the money has to be right", You have to come to Australia You have to do this, You have to have this", but he didnt provide any of those stipulations for Loma, at all. He created numerous obstacles for Devin, as Bill stated, yet Devin still agreed to everything in the end

You dudes just be saying any old nonsense on here man.

What are you talking about?

Kambosos pushed for rematch clause and the Lomachenko fight in Melbourne or Sydney? Haney camp have seemed very wary of travelling to Australia. He's said it himself on DAZN interview.

I don't know where you have been looking, but i tend to base it off actual interviews.

Just because someone tweets some shyt doesn't mean its factual. Garcia should have taught you this.

 

[Megadeus]

What are you talking about?

Kambosos pushed for rematch clause and the Lomachenko fight in Melbourne or Sydney? Haney camp have seemed very wary of travelling to Australia. He's said it himself on DAZN interview.

I don't know where you have been looking, but i tend to base it off actual interviews.

Just because someone tweets some shyt doesn't mean its factual. Garcia should have taught you this.

I literally posted numerous interviews and links to them what are you talking about?

Wheres the interview where Haney said he flat out refused to leave the USA? Wheres the interview where he said he refused to go to Australia? thats all im asking
Because thats what we are arguing here.

 

[Black_Jesus]

So tentatively negotiating favorable terms for both sides= bytching and saying no?


I'll ask one more time

When did he say he wouldn't go to Australia? How is that what you interpreted from this?

When did he imply he wouldnt leave the USA? After he had already presented an even more lucrative deal to go to United Arab Emirates? Post the report that says this please.

Hearn Exploring Offers to Stage Kambosos-Haney in the Middle East

“We’ve had an offer from the Middle East for Devin Haney vs. Kambosos,” Hearn said on the DAZN Boxing Show. “This is one we’re edging towards, where we’re receiving a firm offer for.

Kambosos has said out his own mouth his decision to fight Haney will be based mostly on MONEY, hes made that clear and stressed this throughout the process.


Haney then presented options that could get them much more money than they would in Australia. Kambosos then backtracked and said NO i dont care if its more money, it has to be in Australia, then Haney said thats fine. They never said no to Australia fukk are you talking about?









Eddie Hearn: George Kambosos Jr not being told the truth by his team, Devin Haney ready to go to Australia for undisputed fight

Hearn stressed that Haney (27-0, 15 KO) is absolutely ready to go, and that everyone on their side acknowledge that Kambosos (20-0, 10 KO) is “the man” at lightweight at the moment, which is why Haney is willing to travel to Australia for the bout.


With Haney it was "you have to look good vs, JoJo diaz" and Kambosos even attended his fight to critique him and admitted he looked good, "but the money has to be right", You have to come to Australia You have to do this, You have to have this", but he didnt provide any of those stipulations for Loma, at all. He created numerous obstacles for Devin, as Bill stated, yet Devin still agreed to everything in the end

You dudes just be saying any old nonsense on here man.

The problem is with Team Kambosos.. they were demanding a certain amount of money for a fight in Australia.. But the amount they're looking for could only be guaranteed in the states.. Hence why Devin made that comment about it not having to be in Australia.. Team Haney has stood firm on saying they were willing to take whatever Lomachenko was gonna get and fight in Australia. The dad said they were even willing to put some extra money on the deal... seems like to me Kambosos is just not interested in a deal with DAZN.. They're looking to get a multi-fight deal on ESPN

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

I literally posted numerous interviews and links to them what are you talking about?

Wheres the interview where Haney said he flat out refused to leave the USA? Wheres the interview where he said he refused to go to Australia?
Because thats what we are arguing here.

Nah, you being slick.

Kambosos pitching for money and Australia fight. Two fight clause. That's a fact. That's understandable given he's spent his entire career on the road. He's earned that right, he has the belts.

Haney finished off an interview on DAZN stating he thought Las Vegas was a better fit than Australia. That's the fight that he wants. Do you have DAZN? It's on there.

It's okay, you don't have to get too upset, Haney my guy. I fukks with Haney, always have. Pause.

But this is what it is.

If he really wants those belts he will go to Australia to get them.

But you do realise this is bigger than the fighters no? It's about promotion and promoters. Nobody really gives a fukk about either of these boxers in the bigger scheme.

 

[Derek Lee]

 

[Megadeus]

Nah, you being slick.

Kambosos pitching for money and Australia fight. Two fight clause. That's a fact. That's understandable given he's spent his entire career on the road. He's earned that right, he has the belts.

Haney finished off an interview on DAZN stating he thought Las Vegas was a better fit than Australia. That's the fight that he wants. Do you have DAZN? It's on there.

It's okay, you don't have to get too upset, Haney my guy. I fukks with Haney, always have. Pause.

But this is what it is.

If he really wants those belts he will go to Australia to get them.

But you do realise this is bigger than the fighters no? It's about promotion and promoters. Nobody really gives a fukk about either of these boxers in the bigger scheme.

Slick? Lol Fam im being very direct. I'll ask again.

Where did Haney say he refused to leave the USA? Where did Haney say he wasnt going to go to Australia? I havent seen it. Because that is what we are arguing here. That is what started this conversation. Ppl implied that hes scared to leave the U.S which is why the fight aint happen. Having a preference and flat out refusing something are two different things. I would prefer my messaging app doesnt have access to all my photos and videos but I agree to the shyt anyway. Just because he voiced his preference in an interview doesn't mean he said no to going overseas.
I just want someone to show me where he said the fight aint happen simply because he refused to go to Australia that's all.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Slick? Lol Fam im being very direct. I'll ask again.

Where did Haney say he refused to leave the USA? Where did Haney say he wasnt going to go to Australia? I havent seen it. Because that is what we are arguing here. That is what started this conversation. Ppl implied that hes scared to leave the U.S which is why the fight aint happen. Having a preference and flat out refusing something are two different things. I would prefer my messaging app doesnt have access to all my photos and videos but I agree to the shyt anyway. Just because he voiced his preference in an interview doesn't mean he said no to going overseas.
I just want someone to show me where he said the fight aint happen simply because he refused to go to Australia that's all.

You gotta read between the lines. Doesn’t seem you’re doing this.

Kambosos camp kicked off negotiations with Haney camp, they rebuked quickly, grumblings of travel, %’s and rematches was the general consensus.

They started negotiations with Lomachenko camp, that was moving quickly prior to obvious Ukraine issue.

Was moving towards a two fight deal, first in Australia at least.

Now Hearn pushing Dubai as ‘his’ alternative, meaning, they want more of a cut and don’t want to fight in Australia.

That’s where it’s at.

I told you where you can find the Haney interview. You can keep running the same rebuke you’ve given twice, go check the DAZN interview. It’s right there.

 

[Megadeus]

You gotta read between the lines. Doesn’t seem you’re doing this.

Kambosos camp kicked off negotiations with Haney camp, they rebuked quickly, grumblings of travel, %’s and rematches was the general consensus.

They started negotiations with Lomachenko camp, that was moving quickly prior to obvious Ukraine issue.

Was moving towards a two fight deal, first in Australia at least.

Now Hearn pushing Dubai as ‘his’ alternative, meaning, they want more of a cut and don’t want to fight in Australia.

That’s where it’s at.

I told you where you can find the Haney interview. You can keep running the same rebuke you’ve given twice, go check the DAZN interview. It’s right there.

So he never said nor indicated he wasnt willing to travel, never said he was scared to fight outside the U.S, never said he wouldnt go to Australia, which were the claims ive been disputing this entire time.

Idk how to access whatever youre referring to, so this back nd forth is pretty pointless if youre not gonna post link or provide direct quotes. Because from what youre telling me this doesnt have anything to do with the point im making. If you simply scrolled up to see what I had initially quoted you'd see that. Respectfully.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Loma never balked about traveling….

Haney said he will travel then was trying to negotiate other shyt.

Haney should have did what he had to do to get the belts short money and all. Him saying he would take whatever Loma takes is an indication that money was a factor, he should have made them an offer they can’t refuse.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

So he never said nor indicated he wasnt willing to travel, never said he was scared to fight outside the U.S, never said he wouldnt go to Australia, which were the claims ive been disputing this entire time.

Idk how to access whatever youre referring to, so this back nd forth is pretty pointless if youre not gonna post link or provide direct quotes. Because from what youre telling me this doesnt have anything to do with the point im making. If you simply scrolled up to see what I had initially quoted you'd see that. Respectfully.

You just did exactly what was predicted.

Grow up.

 

[Tanahashi Coates]

Very interesting listen. He's a network free agent after Parker so the stars might be aligning for that Benavidez fight. Said that even if everyone fights each other, Canelo ain't gonna fight them

Also, @ChocolateGiddyUp, he deaded the Luke Keelers of the world narrative

 

[patscorpio]

Andrade been with Eddie for about 4 years...one thing for Eddie is he kept him consistent and active...something he wasnt known for large parts of his career. If he plays the free agent game I hope he learned something from all this.

 

[patscorpio]