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its a shame...eddie is the only one that was actually trying to do some shyt to secure the biggest fight in boxing while Arum and company were trying to make like he is the problem..and yes if malik scott can't drill any real fundamentals into wilder for this 3rd fight, its a wrap
 

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Hunter On Skipping Hrgovic Fight: Triller Just Gave Me Something I Could Not Deny
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BY KEITH IDEC
Published Tue May 18, 2021, 09:24 AM EDT


It made better business sense.

That’s Michael Hunter’s simple explanation for why he withdrew from an IBF heavyweight elimination match with Filip Hrgovic recently to fight an unknown, 38-year-old opponent on the Teofimo Lopez-George Kambosos Jr. undercard. Hunter has drawn criticism for pulling out of a fight that could’ve made him the IBF’s mandatory challenger for one of Anthony Joshua’s titles, but the American contender isn’t concerned about what’s being said or written about his 10-round pay-per-view fight with Mike Wilson on June 19 at loanDepot Park in Miami.

Wilson is 21-1, including 10 knockouts, but he has competed almost exclusively as a cruiserweight in 11 years as a professional. The Medford, Oregon, resident also lost his only fight against a top opponent, Denis Lebedev, by unanimous decision in November 2018.

Las Vegas’ Hunter (19-1-1, 13 KOs) discussed his decision to face Wilson instead of Croatia’s Hrgovic (12-0, 10 KOs) during an appearance Friday on SiriusXM’s “At The Fights,” co-hosted by Randy Gordon and Gerry c00ney.

“I still would like to fight [Hrgovic], you know, but, you know, when we’re talking about the business, Triller just gave me something that I could not deny,” Hunter explained, referring to Triller Fight Club, promoter of the Lopez-Kambosos card. “And, you know, we were definitely getting ready for Hrgovic. That was my only focus at the time, but, you know, like you said, when we’re talking about business – it’s always looked and frowned upon when the boxer does a good business move. They never really do that when, you know, there’s promoters making all sorts of bad business moves.

“They’re making so many of ‘em, you can’t really tell which ones are which. So, I think that, you know, they’re just mad that, you know, they, you know, didn’t get what they were, you know, hoping for. You know, to lowball me and, you know, to kind of, you know, get over on me. You know, I was just with DAZN not too long ago. So, you know, we’ve gotta make sure we play our cards right.”

Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom Boxing won a purse bid last month to earn the right to promote the Hrgovic-Hunter fight. Hunter’s 60-percent share of that winning bid of $606,666 would’ve paid him just about $364,000 for fighting the 6-feet-6, 240-pound Hrgovic, who won a bronze medal at the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro.

The 32-year-old Hunter has been moved down from fourth to 11th in the IBF’s rankings since he withdrew from the Hrgovic fight. Hrgovic, who moved up to fourth from fifth in the IBF’s most recent ratings, will fight the next available leading contender now that Hunter has withdrawn from their eliminator.

its a shame...he made a business decision..triller offered him a bag and he took it..cant fault him but now he cant use that excuse that he is being avoided.

for his sake, he better get rid of this guy he's facing with no issues
 

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You have fans of fighters and fans of the sport of boxing. Cheering for a fighter to break a contract and not fight a fighter which would be his biggest pay day of date where you know the fight can go either way is ridiculous. How do you cheer for any fighter who uses PEDs to where he is banned from fighting in his home country and lies all the time. It is cheating to use steroids in boxing (of all sports)..Floyd Mayweather is my favorite fighter of all time, but I wanted him to only fight fights that gave him the biggest probability that he could lose and get his record tainted. Why? Because I care more about the sport even over my favorite fighter. Amd if it was a fight I knew would be too easy, I would be upset with him. That’s how it’s supposed to be. Fury lost the arbitration case and now they will fight again by September. That’s how it’s supposed to be. I’m not even the biggest fan of wilder, but let’s not act like the first fight wasn’t extremely competitive and this fight could be the same :stopitslime:and for record I’m not invested in who even wins like that. I’m cheering for Wilder, but I wouldn’t be bothered at all if he lost again. Fighting Joshua is not a bigger fight or payday. Stop it. The whole world knows who Wilder is. Even casual fans. But not Joshua (and I like him)
 
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Fighting Joshua is not a bigger fight or payday. Stop it. The whole world knows who Wilder is. Even casual fans. But not Joshua (and I like him)

Joshua is way more well known than Wilder bruh. If you're talking in the states, of course Wilder is more "known". And come on, the Wilder vs AJ fight would have surpassed the Wilder vs Fury and even AJ vs Fury fight in terms of EVERYTHING if we're being honest.
 

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Joshua is way more well known than Wilder bruh. If you're talking in the states, of course Wilder is more "known". And come on, the Wilder vs AJ fight would have surpassed the Wilder vs Fury and even AJ vs Fury fight in terms of EVERYTHING if we're being honest.
I’m talking about the world. That is a lie. I live in Japan and that was a big fight. They don’t even watch boxing like that. And I think Joshua is a way better fighter than Wilder. Fighters in the UK are not as popular worldwide. The world follows American boxing. You know that.. that’s like the Cowboys are fukking trash compared to the Bucs or even the Patriots when Tom Brady was playing for them or Peyton Manning when he played for them, but there are no teams more popular in the world than the Cowboys and Steelers. It’s not about who is better. It’s about the awareness all countries have of that entity. The numbers won’t even be close
 

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Damn near everyone reported that the arbitration was for compensation for the 3rd fight not happening and had no bearing on making Fury/AJ. Why didn't these idiots just say that the Fury/AJ fight was contingent upon the arbitration case? :snoop:

Also, why did it even go to mediation/arbitration? Why didn't Wilder just take them to court? That's what Lennox did to Hasim Rahman after Rahman beat him and tried to move on without the rematch :jbhmm:
The reports were wrong and Bush league..well wishing. Lol
 

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For now... instead we will see Fury beating Wilder a third time :unimpressed: Boxing for you... nobody cares about that shyt aside of them lunatics who ate up the "glove gate".

Let's hope they get done with it quick while AJ fights Usyk so we can see this shyt at last.... :francis:
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Be mad at Fury for not honering agreements..
 

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Probability of fukkery might depend on how committed/motivated Fury is for a 3rd match
If he handles his business and dominates Wilder again this is ultimately a positive for him/TR cause I get the feeling the build up for this match is going to be huge with Wilder talking shyt and all the conspiracies and what not. Despite all the people saying they have no interest I wouldn't be surprised if it does the most numbers out of the 3 fights
Make lemonade out of lemons and make the eventual Fury vs. Joshua fight even bigger :manny:
Finally a good opinion..honor your commitments.
 

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I’m talking about the world. That is a lie. I live in Japan and that was a big fight. They don’t even watch boxing like that. And I think Joshua is a way better fighter than Wilder. Fighters in the UK are not as popular worldwide. The world follows American boxing. You know that.. that’s like the Cowboys are fukking trash compared to the Bucs or even the Patriots when Tom Brady was playing for them or Peyton Manning when he played for them, but there are no teams more popular in the world than the Cowboys and Steelers. It’s not about who is better. It’s about the awareness all countries have of that entity. The numbers won’t even be close

Wilder is not more popular than Joshua, come on now. That's being ridiculous and you know it. There's NOTHING to suggest that
 

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Wilder is not more popular than Joshua, come on now. That's being ridiculous and you know it. There's NOTHING to suggest that
I just asked my co-workers. 5 Japanese and one from the Philippines if they know who Wilder is. 4 of them said yes. I asked if they know who Anthony Joshua is and only 2 said yes. Both very popular fighters. But we are talking about worldwide. Where do you live, because I actually live overseas in a country that don’t even watch boxing like that at all. I think Joshua is a better fighter , but he is not more popular worldwide. The world watches American sports, music, movies and all entertainment the most by far . They don’t follow other countries the same.
 

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Be mad at Fury for not honering agreements..

W/e who I'm mad at, point is this is again a slap in the face of the fans. Fury, Arum, MTK, Warren mostly this time

They shouldn't do rematch clauses like this. Because they included one now we are looking toward a rubber match between 2 guys that fought twice already and one of them beat the other conclusively the second time and in most ppl's opinion beat him the first time too. Can't recall any fights where after a history like that I wanted a rubber match. A rubber match meant to decide matters not replicating a pairing where we already got out answers to our questions.

We should be looking ahead of the undisputed fight, not Fury vs Wilder III
 

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I just asked my co-workers. 5 Japanese and one from the Philippines if they know who Wilder is. 4 of them said yes. I asked if they know who Anthony Joshua is and only 2 said yes. Both very popular fighters. But we are talking about worldwide. Where do you live, because I actually live overseas in a country that don’t even watch boxing like that at all. I think Joshua is a better fighter , but he is not more popular worldwide

I live where I got in my sig, Jax, FL.

I'll ask Res this since he lives overseas as well @reservoirdogs, who's more popular where you from; Wilder or AJ?
 

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Damn near everyone reported that the arbitration was for compensation for the 3rd fight not happening and had no bearing on making Fury/AJ. Why didn't these idiots just say that the Fury/AJ fight was contingent upon the arbitration case? :snoop:

Also, why did it even go to mediation/arbitration? Why didn't Wilder just take them to court? That's what Lennox did to Hasim Rahman after Rahman beat him and tried to move on without the rematch :jbhmm:

People did tell yall this.. Instead nikkas wanted to believe Wilder was just holed up somewhere depressed an miserable letting contracts expire.. People are stupid and like to believe narritives.. Wilder is black so people just believed he can just be done any kinda way and Fury doesn't have to honor agreements..
 

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I just asked my co-workers. 5 Japanese and one from the Philippines if they know who Wilder is. 4 of them said yes. I asked if they know who Anthony Joshua is and only 2 said yes. Both very popular fighters. But we are talking about worldwide. Where do you live, because I actually live overseas in a country that don’t even watch boxing like that at all. I think Joshua is a better fighter , but he is not more popular worldwide. The world watches American sports, music, movies and all entertainment the most by far . They don’t follow other countries the same.

Your mini survey with your co-workers mean shyt, man, it's not a representative sample. 6 ppl for fukk's sake :mjlol:


Joshua has like 10 millions more followers on Instagram but Wilder is more famous, yeah, alright :russ:
Joshua also sells more tickets in his own, earns more, etc...

Wilder is likely more famous in the US and that's it,but not even sure about that tbh
 
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