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it’s like when Floyd fought Baldomir errybody was :hhh: N he had the WBC N had beat Judah N Gatti back to back... nikkas pick N choose when to be honest


Idongo beat Burns N Random Euro Cac N the same boxing media was :ahh: for Bud :heh:



Usyk goin thru a gauntlet to get all the belts should not be looked at any where near... vacant Dulorme Postol Idongo :mjlol:


Quality opps > Belts erry time N if a Quality opp has a belt even better ... but glorifying this Pokémon gotta catch em all bullshyt with the belts I’m not with it

I woulda much rather seen Prime GGG not fight all those cans collecting belts N Mandos N make a Ward fight for example or a Younger Kovalev at that time ... he’ll even the proposed Jccjr before jr fell all the way tf off

Exactly, the Floyd part is facts because at the time, all the real boxing fans wanted Floyd vs Margarito. Nobody wanted to see the Baldo fight even tho he actually earned a big fight by beating some solid names that people cared about. I think it being ppv hurt its vibe tho.

Unfortunately as a collective, the boxing media has a habit of picking and choosing when to be critical of certain situations or boxers. Bud vs Indongo may have been a unification, but it wasn't a significant fight for anybody to remember fondly.

Agree with Usyk run being >>>>>Bud's. This Pokemon shyt gotta stop :camby:

In all honesty, I hated some of those mando's GGG was facing. Wade :hhh:
but I think people go overboard with a lot of his resume complaints. He was legit bodying ring ranked top 10 opponents. The same euro cats that were giving Sergio Martinez problems, he was crushing them. Even then he wasn't avoiding punchers or certain styles. He fought who he could fought. Yeah nikkas avoiding him stagnated his career a bit and he could have moved up he decided to wait it out and he eventually got his big fights. Just like how Margarito didn't get his Floyd fight, dude waited and eventually got his big fights. Sometimes that shyt takes time.

GGG going up to face Ward is like Bud moving up to face Mell. Yeah its cool when compared to the jobber fights, but i rather see Bud vs Spence/Thurman/Porter just like I rather had seen GGG vs Canelo/Quillin, Jacobs etc...
 

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It's hard to ever definitively pin blame on fighters just because of all the politics involved, but Golovkin's career post Canelo has been underwhelming.:yeshrug:

I'm not even going to get on him about having an exciting fight against Derevy, but he damn near derailed his own hype by facing Rolls, Derevy, and Szeremeta in a row. He's still a factor at 160, but we never hear his name actually being in the mix for any worthwhile fights.:francis:
 

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'Warrior' Bryan Vera Itching For Chance at Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Trilogy
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BY LYLE FITZSIMMONS
Published Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:24 AM EDT


Bryan Vera is fighting next month. (photo by Chris Farina)

Yes, that Bryan Vera.

The one who’s not gone past a single round in 15 months, not beaten a plus-.500 fighter in four years and not won a fight scheduled beyond eight rounds since 2013.

But lest you think he’s a delusional 39-year-old with visions of Canelo and Golovkin, think again.

In fact, his hold on reality is particularly strong.

He’s simply got an itch he’d like to scratch.

Again.

“I feel like I’ve got one more decent run left in me,” the amiable Texan told Boxing Scene. “And if I could get another fight with Chavez Jr., that’d be what I’d most like to come out of it.”

Ah yes, the Chavez itch.

In this case, call it a squared-circle version of bed bugs.

Vera was a mere 31 when he first engaged the enigmatic son of the Mexican legend, outworking a particularly sluggish version of the progeny for most of 10 rounds before scorecard margins of two, four and six points in the other direction earned it a shared nod as this site’s 2013 Robbery of the Year.

A rematch six months later did little to ease the irritation, ending in another unanimous decision – albeit admittedly a far more agreed-upon one – in the other man’s favor.

The second Chavez loss triggered a long, slow decline for Vera, who was banished from the elite by losses to Willie Monroe Jr. (UD 10), Rocky Fielding (TKO 2) and Matt Korobov (UD 8) through mid-2016 – then dropped another five in a row to the more middling likes of Mike Gavronski (TKO 6), Sena Agbeko (UD 8) and Ahmed Elbiali (TKO 6) in 2017, 2018 and 2019, respectively.

“It’s not like I dwell on it and think about it every single day,” Vera said.

“I’m not that kind of guy.

“But if you’re asking me if I’d like another shot at him with a chance for both of us to make a little money, sure, I’d go for it. I think it makes sense for both of us.”

Vera ended his skid with two first-round wins in 2020, hooking up with Granite Chin Promotions and heading northeast to Derry, N.H. for consecutive blowouts of Mike Anderson and Francisco Neto last August and November at the New England Sports Center.

Full disclosure: Anderson and Neto were a combined 1-14 and lasted just 2 minutes, 25 seconds.

But, Vera said, the KOs were not the only positive results. His work with new trainer Fernando Melchor has yielded subtle changes in defense that he said will maximize whatever shelf life he’s got remaining.

“It’s not like you won’t be able to recognize me,” Vera said.

“I’m still the same guy. But I don’t get hit in the face as much. And for a guy my age that’s a good thing.

“I’m still mentally tough, but I’m picking my shots much better now. I’m in top shape because I changed my lifestyle and don’t put on a lot of pounds between fights.”

Vera has dipped his toe into training waters, too, working with novices looking to get into “boxing shape” in and around his current in Austin. He’s got more than a dozen clients these days and frequently posts videos of personal gym sessions on his Facebook page: Boxing Training with Bryan Vera.

“It’s what I’m about,” he said. “Fitness and staying in shape have been a part of my life.”

The extracurricular work surely helps fuel the prep for April 17, when Vera heads back to Derry for the next step on the road toward Chavez III – an eight-rounder with once-beaten super middleweight Kendrick Ball for the chronically vacant and forever dubious World Boxing Council USNBC silver title.

Based out of nearby Worcester, Mass., Ball has won six straight – including five by KO – since taking his lone career loss in a six-rounder against then-unbeaten Alexis Gaytan at Foxwoods three years ago.

He’ll stand three inches taller than Vera and is 11 years younger, but, according to Granite Chin promoter Chris Traietti, he’s also made to order for a still-relevant veteran.

“Kendrick is a solid prospect, and he comes from a great gym,” Traietti said.

“But the reality is, for Bryan to even sniff the kinds of fights he used to get, he needs beat Kendrick Ball. So, hopefully this fight goes the way we want and then we can sit down and have a much more pleasant conversation about who we go after next.”

Incidentally, since beating Ball by a wide unanimous decision, Gaytan is just 3-8.

And Ball’s six subsequent victims have a combined mark of 45-64-8, with 42 KO losses.

“He’s had softer fights than me and it looks like he wants to box and be fancy,” Vera said. “I’ll have a perfect opportunity to break him down. I’m 100-percent serious about this fight.

“I feel like I’m the stronger fighter. I’m going to get inside and make him work. He’s never fought anybody as strong as me. I think I can overwhelm with my strength and experience.”

And then, cue up the trilogy music for Chavez – who’s 4-4 since the Vera duel.

“I think I can be back in line for a real good fight,” Vera said. “I think it makes sense for both of us and a chance to make some real money.”

its a shame how this dude's career turned out....robbed blind against jr..prolly got hit with shots he shouldnt have took..now he is resorted to calling out jr for a 3rd fight well past its expiration date..sad
 

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Canelo already said last month the Charlo fight has to happen. No way he's not making that fight soon after he unifies. Andrade is a long shot but at the end of the day he don't deserve it. This dude is about to fight a guy who lost to Liam smith TWICE. he's not even fighting canelo's leftovers. He's fighting the leftovers of canelo's leftovers:mjlol:......But this notion that canelo's legacy depends on Demetrius Andrade is hilarious. Canelo unifies 168. Then goes on to beat Charlo and benavidez, he's an ATG. Period. History will not even remember Demetrius andrade if he retired right now.

But It's comedy how we have golovkin Stan's in here capping for Andrade. When Andrade been calling out golovkins overrated ass for years and still is. But little g would rather fight a blown up junior middleweight:mjlol:.....golovkin still has a chance to unify 160 but he don't want no issues with the other belt holders. That's what's currently happening RIGHT NOW and his stans dont have shyt to say about it. #shookboys should be the LAST group talking about any fighter ducking. They're the most shameful clique in the ring. Constantly throwing shade at every top fighter but completely ignoring all the ducking golovkin has done in his career and is STILL doing to this day. shyt is disgusting :scusthov:

I feel you, and to be clear, I'm not saying Canelo's legacy depends on fighting Andrade. Rather, i was saying that it would be a bad look if Canelo goes through his physical prime without ever facing at least one of them (Charlo/Andrade.)

The hype is there for a fight against either, whether or not they earned it.:yeshrug:
 

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I feel you, and to be clear, I'm not saying Canelo's legacy depends on fighting Andrade. Rather, i was saying that it would be a bad look if Canelo goes through his physical prime without ever facing at least one of them (Charlo/Andrade.)

The hype is there for a fight against either, whether or not they earned it.:yeshrug:
Charlo yea. Andrade no. Absolutely nobody knows Andrade outside of hardcore boxing fans. At this point he's just a name for canelo haters to throw shade. That's it. I see a lot of people in boxing saying they wanna see Charlo vs canelo. Not so much Andrade. He simply brings nothing to the table. Not ratings nor accomplisments. If canelo beats him the haters will say Andrade was a nobody who never beat anybody. Which is exactly what they said about callum smith. And they would actually be right. Andrade is 33 years old and still hasn't faced a legit opponent. The Charlo hype is real. The Andrade hype is not.
 

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It's hard to ever definitively pin blame on fighters just because of all the politics involved, but Golovkin's career post Canelo has been underwhelming.:yeshrug:

I'm not even going to get on him about having an exciting fight against Derevy, but he damn near derailed his own hype by facing Rolls, Derevy, and Szeremeta in a row. He's still a factor at 160, but we never hear his name actually being in the mix for any worthwhile fights.:francis:

Do you think he cares about his name being in the mix? How can y’all still be on this forum and not understand that this is PRIZE fighting. He WON once DAZN gave him that contract. At this point, he’s just trying to fulfill his obligations and ride off to the sunset.

If you’re given a contract of 6 fights, reportedly 100M, and you can fulfill it fighting guys like Rolls, why not do it? You can’t even be mad at the hustle.

His prime is over. It’s not about proving he’s the best anymore. It’s about getting this money.
 

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Do you think he cares about his name being in the mix? How can y’all still be on this forum and not understand that this is PRIZE fighting. He WON once DAZN gave him that contract. At this point, he’s just trying to fulfill his obligations and ride off to the sunset.

If you’re given a contract of 6 fights, reportedly 100M, and you can fulfill it fighting guys like Rolls, why not do it? You can’t even be mad at the hustle.

I'm a spectator not his accountant.:heh:

Plus it was a discussion about his resume. Good on Golovkin for getting paid, but that doesn't exclude him from getting the same criticism everyone else gets.
 

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I'm still gonna watch it because I love boxing, but this sport is pitiful bruh. The only divisions above 126 that actually move and give you good fights on a somewhat regular basis are 154, 140, and Cruiserweight. Two of those move because they are completely dominated by 1 promoter(154 PBC and 140 Top Rank) and cruiserweight doesn't have enough star power to not move any other way.

Before nikkas say I'm hating on the little guys, it aint that I'm hating on them but it gets harder the bigger you go in boxing not the smaller you get. I'm just sick and tired of never getting great fights consistently out of regular sized human beings. I legit don't even care about Spence vs Crawford anymore, if it happens it happens great but I refuse to give either one of them diva ass nikkas too much more of my energy, when 154 and 140 both are on the verge of going undisputed in the very near future.
 
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