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[patscorpio]

People don't get tired of mayweather/pacquiao arguements?

breh you know its typical..esp when a Floyd or many fight is near...there's prolly going to be more of this after guerrero-mayweather too lol

 

[Black_Jesus]

Floyd also agreed to the smaller ring and the Reyes gloves demand...

In fact Floyd agreed to every fukking demand they made...Dude only asked for one thing, OSDT which benefits BOTH FIGHTERS and these nikkas derailed the negotiations because Manny is scared of needles...

It still boggles mystery mind how anyone can logically defend a nikka who is tatted up and all of a sudden when the subject of drug testing comes up he is claiming he is scared of needles...shyt is comedy...

Only one thing??

That one thing had never been demanded ever in the sport of boxing..

Unlimited blood drawn from your vein randomly all the way up to the fight in the midst of intense training because Floydie, the bytch who claims hes greater than Ali Tyson Leonard and Robinson is feeling insecure. yea lets compare this to one tattoo that he got during his down time

 

[Black_Jesus]

Its funny because its always the same two people who bring up Pac, anytime Floyd gets criticism

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Only one thing??

That one thing had never been demanded ever in the sport of boxing..

Unlimited blood drawn from your vein randomly all the way up to the fight in the midst of intense training because Floydie, the bytch who claims hes greater than Ali Tyson Leonard and Robinson is feeling insecure. yea lets compare this to one tattoo that he got during his down time

They have HGH blood testing in Tennis and Baseball, where you hit a ball, but it's not okay to have blood testing in boxing, where you hit each other? I'm just trying to follow the logic here.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Only one thing??

That one thing had never been demanded ever in the sport of boxing..

Unlimited blood drawn from your vein randomly all the way up to the fight in the midst of intense training because Floydie, the bytch who claims hes greater than Ali Tyson Leonard and Robinson is feeling insecure. yea lets compare this to one tattoo that he got during his down time

and there's the other classic Pactard excuse for ducking a steroid test...

Whether its been demanded before or not is irrelevant, Floyd's demand subjects him to the same fukking testing...Floyd demanded strict drug testing for the biggest prize fight in the history of the sport to ensure we have a fair fight...This testing does not only benefit Floyd, it benefits both fighters unless of course one of them is not clean...

How the fukk can any sane logical human being be against this?

 

[surv2syn]

nah i wasn't saying you were one of those ppl
i was just addressing the "turned down" thing you said
almost everyone who says hes scared still picks him to win
i don't get it
floyd definitely deserves some blame, he's definitely not a saint in the situation
it just annoys the hell out of me that all of this could of been solved 3 years ago if pacquaio just agreed to the friggin blood test. floyd agreed to all of his demands, mayweather signed his part of the contract, everything was cool on both sides.

pacquaio shoulda been crucified for ducking a random blood test and making up all those silly ass excuses. if that was floyd, we all know what woulda happened.

yeah, like I said....I am one of the first guys to call somebody out when they start talking that Floyd is scared b.s. nikkas do that shyt in the barbershop and be defending Pac talmbout OSDT. I be like "if Floyd has to go through the EXACT same process then why is Pac scared to do it?" people use that excuse about he gets weak when giving blood and too close to fight time he looks shytty. well, Floyd would be the same way right? I definitely believe because of that, Manny was on something. Had him and his team wouldve not put up a fuss, I wouldve given him benefit of the doubt and said nah....old boy is clean. Thats why I place more blame on the Pac side because its like they had something to hide.

 

[surv2syn]

and there's the other classic Pactard excuse for ducking a steroid test...

Whether its been demanded before or not is irrelevant, Floyd's demand subjects him to the same fukking testing...Floyd demanded strict drug testing for the biggest prize fight in the history of the sport to ensure we have a fair fight...This testing does not only benefit Floyd, it benefits both fighters unless of course one of them is not clean...

How the fukk can any sane logical human being be against this?

...this

as I said, Pac aint scared of Floyd and Floyd aint scared of Pac...but with all the information that the public has received...one fighter to me looked like he had more to hide than the other.

 

[Black_Jesus]

They have HGH blood testing in Tennis and Baseball, where you hit a ball, but it's not okay to have blood testing in boxing, where you hit each other? I'm just trying to follow the logic here.

Do they draw blood unlimitedly??

And please tell me where I said blood testing shouldn't be in boxing

 

[surv2syn]

yea when the floyd manny arguments start taking over i tend to skip those posts

lol, and the funny thing is, it spun off from a convo starting about why Haymon top fighters dont face each other. we was talking about Berto and then somebody started saying it was excuses coming from Pac fans. thats why I wish Floyd wouldve fought the guy already instead of letting JMM KTFO his ass.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

MGM grand filling up for the weigh-ins

 

[Black_Jesus]

yeah, like I said....I am one of the first guys to call somebody out when they start talking that Floyd is scared b.s. nikkas do that shyt in the barbershop and be defending Pac talmbout OSDT. I be like "if Floyd has to go through the EXACT same process then why is Pac scared to do it?" people use that excuse about he gets weak when giving blood and too close to fight time he looks shytty. well, Floyd would be the same way right? I definitely believe because of that, Manny was on something. Had him and his team wouldve not put up a fuss, I wouldve given him benefit of the doubt and said nah....old boy is clean. Thats why I place more blame on the Pac side because its like they had something to hide.

Well for starters... Floyd really wasn't in a leveragable position to demand OSDT blood testing since Pac had never tested dirty or been associated with peds/hgh..... Pac claimed to have had a bad experience giving up blood before, close to the fight.. If Pac really wanted juice up he coulda just copped some undetectable designer drugs.. you know that shyt Roidquez is on.. they're a little expensive but best believe Pac could afford it.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

http://sports.sho.com/live for the weigh-ins

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Well for starters... Floyd really wasn't in a leveragable position to demand OSDT blood testing since Pac had never tested dirty or been associated with peds/hgh..... Pac claimed to have had a bad experience giving up blood before, close to the fight.. If Pac really wanted juice up he coulda just copped some undetectable designer drugs.. you know that shyt Roidquez is on.. they're a little expensive but best believe Pac could afford it.

Everything is negotiable. From the ring size, to the gloves, to the name of the fight, which fighter comes out and is announced for. So, is blood testing. It was Manny's choice to turn down the fight and he did. However, that is where the fight had a hitch.

 

[KingJudah]

weigh in ?

 

[surv2syn]

Well for starters... Floyd really wasn't in a leveragable position to demand OSDT blood testing since Pac had never tested dirty or been associated with peds/hgh..... Pac claimed to have had a bad experience giving up blood before, close to the fight.. If Pac really wanted juice up he coulda just copped some undetectable designer drugs.. you know that shyt Roidquez is on.. they're a little expensive but best believe Pac could afford it.

depends on what that person's view is on leverage. if I am able to offer you a fight where you make over $30 mil and you cant fight anyone else for that amount...I would say thats leverage.

I am not sure about the designer drug statement...I am not an expert on that but I would think with OSDT....it would be risky that some of your bloodwork could at least come back with some abnormalities. again, not an expert.