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It was like his 2nd fight at 147. It’s like to make PPV money, Welterweight is the minimal weight for that to happen. Over the past couple decades, not many PPV fights have been Under 147 iirc.
that was his first welterweight fight..that was after the gatti fight which was was ppv at 140
 

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Do you think is it disrespectful toward a pro boxer or ex boxer to ask him to fight a non boxer in charity? Or is it just simply irresponsible toward the non-boxing dudes? Or maybe both.
Setting up a fight like that is lowkey instigating that something interesting can happen there so asking Mike Tyson to fight these rugby dudes can be translated like a disrespect as the rugby dudes would stand a chance beating him. Now when they talk about top boxers vs MMA guys in the ring is also a bit like that but at the same time MMA is at least a combat sport that includes throwing hands.

On the other hand, this Tyson one would be just a charity fight though... :jbhmm:

But I wonder, how long before one of these "non-boxing celebrity/athlete tries boxing" kind of events go bad and one of these dudes get a brain bleed or just any serious injury? Make no mistake, boxing would be blamed for it, not the dudes who went to uncharted territories one too often. :ld:
 

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Do you think is it disrespectful toward a pro boxer or ex boxer to ask him to fight a non boxer in charity? Or is it just simply irresponsible toward the non-boxing dudes? Or maybe both.
Setting up a fight like that is lowkey instigating that something interesting can happen there so asking Mike Tyson to fight these rugby dudes can be translated like a disrespect as the rugby dudes would stand a chance beating him. Now when they talk about top boxers vs MMA guys in the ring is also a bit like that but at the same time MMA is at least a combat sport that includes throwing hands.

On the other hand, this Tyson one would be just a charity fight though... :jbhmm:

But I wonder, how long before one of these "non-boxing celebrity/athlete tries boxing" kind of events go bad and one of these dudes get a brain bleed or just any serious injury? Make no mistake, boxing would be blamed for it, not the dudes who went to uncharted territories one too often. :ld:
I heard holyfield doing it too. Only way these types of matches don't end in murder is the boxers play around and play to the crow like pro wrestlers do
 

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I think BKB is a tough man competition like freak show with the target audience being rednecks. Sorry for those who like it, of course it doesn't apply to all its fans. But it's way too carny to me. It's like dumbed-down boxing with MMA/WWE aesthetics to me.
its the way of old before queensbury rules modified things more and more. Cept back then there was more wrestling so it looked a bit more like MMA
 

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its the way of old before queensbury rules modified things more and more. Cept back then there was more wrestling so it looked a bit more like MMA
I know but they did it in a ring instead of a pit and while it didn't really feature skills in the beginning either and it was more of a blow-for-blow thing a ring makes the use of skills more possible and it's not coincidental that boxing has evolved from those days. Now it's more spectacular, more entertaining, skills matter just as much or more than attrition. I prefer that over BKB.
 

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I know but they did it in a ring instead of a pit and while it didn't really feature skills in the beginning either and it was more of a blow-for-blow thing a ring makes the use of skills more possible and it's not coincidental that boxing has evolved from those days. Now it's more spectacular, more entertaining, skills matter just as much or more than attrition. I prefer that over BKB.
could you imagine rounds going as long as those days? :mjtf:
They went at slower pace but still
 

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Jimmy Glenn, Longtime Trainer, Cut Man & Owner Of Popular Bar, Dies From COVID-19
By Keith Idec

Published On Thu May 7, 2020, 12:19 PM EDT

Jimmy Glenn, the beloved owner of a popular bar in Times Square who was a trainer, cut man and manager for many years, has died from complications caused by COVID-19.

Glenn, 89, had been hospitalized in New York City for several weeks.

A gentleman revered throughout the boxing world, the soft-spoken Glenn spent more than 70 years in boxing in various capacities. Glenn began working as a trainer early in the 1950s, not long after a brief amateur career in which he lost to eventual heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson.

A native of South Carolina who moved to New York City in 1944, Glenn worked with Patterson, Terrence Alli, Bobby Cassidy, Ralph Correa, Howard Davis Jr., Jameel McCline, Mark McPherson and John Meekins, among others, during his lengthy career as a corner man.

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Promoter Lou DiBella, a longtime friend whose company is based in Manhattan, reflected Thursday on Glenn’s genuine kindness.

“I loved him,” DiBella told BoxingScene.com. “He was a family member to me. He’s as good a man as I’ve ever known. Other than my own father, I’ve never known anybody like Jimmy. I really feel the same way I felt the day my dad died. That’s how I feel right now, similarly. That’s how much the guy meant to me. There was nobody better than Jimmy Glenn, man. He was one of the best human beings I’ve ever known in every way. He was strong, but he had a heart of gold.

“You talk about people who walk this Earth who are just better basically than most of us, and he was one of those people. He’s been a big part of my life for like 30 years. Literally, from when I first met him, when I first started at HBO and Artie Curry first introduced me to Jimmy and I started hanging out at his bar, he became a confidante. Every time I ever saw him, he told me that he loved me. Every, single time in 30 years.”

Glenn first trained amateur boxers at the Third Moravian Church in East Harlem, where he helped keep countless kids off the streets. In the late 1970s, Glenn opened the Times Square Boxing Club in Manhattan.

By then, Glenn’s bar, Jimmy’s Corner, had become a Manhattan landmark frequented by boxing fans and non-boxing fans alike, all of whom loved its festive, nostalgic feel. The iconic Jimmy’s Corner, which opened in 1971, is known for its walls adorned with boxing memorabilia and often is a hot spot for fans, journalists, boxers and others involved in the sport, especially when there are boxing cards in New York.

Sammy Davis Jr., Robert DeNiro, Michael Jordan and Frank Sinatra were among the celebrities Glenn recalled coming to Jimmy’s Corner in a WPIX segment that aired four years ago.

Numerous pros and amateurs trained regularly for nearly two decades at the Times Square Boxing Club, which was also known for its old-school atmosphere before it closed due to the renovation of Times Square. Jimmy’s Corner remains a thriving business as it approaches the 50th anniversary of its opening.

Glenn was inducted into the New Jersey Boxing Hall of Fame in 2002. He also was part of the New York Boxing Hall of Fame’s inaugural class in 2012.

Glenn is survived by his son, Adam, a Harvard Law graduate and former corporate attorney who now runs Jimmy’s Corner.

damn this corona
 
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