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Andrade hiding behind DAZN like its a shield has been annoying as fukk
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Andrade hiding behind DAZN like its a shield has been annoying as fukk
reservoirdogs
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Andrade hiding behind DAZN like its a shield has been annoying as fukk
They said they are willing to offer Charlo a one-fight deal.
Jermall was acting very inconsistent about it, one week he said in an interview that he would face Andrade on DAZN and said "DAZN, send me the contract" then just a few days later he said an Andrade fight is not interesting to him.
They are willing to work with Charlo and don't try to freeze him out. Charlo said he is a free agent too, his own boss. So if he's his own boss then there should be no reason why he can't afford a one-fight deal to fight Andrade on DAZN. DAZN typically also pays them well so I don't get the problem.
The Charlo brothers and Wilder say they are their own bosses but then they are reluctant to leave FOX or Showtime for good money offers even for 1-3 fights.
You can't have it both ways. Either you are a free agent and then you get criticism for not making those fights happen even though you could, or you are not really a free agent and you are told you can't fight on DAZN/ESPN/etc... but then stop bullshytting about being your own boss and tell it how it really is.
They are basically saying they are available to any offer but in reality, they aren't and they strictly fight on the networks PBC works with. They brand themselves as the ones who have more freedom as opposed to fighters who are contractually tied to networks and/or promoters but that doesn't substantiate in anything.
reservoirdogs
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Now another example of DAZN willing to work with a PBC fighter.
Jack is a PBC fighter and a Mayweather Promotions fighter. Will be interesting if they let Jack fight there.
for it: Jack isn't a draw to Haymon/PBC, he's old too, they wouldn't lose much with him losing to Bivol on DAZN, Jack is the kind of guy who's willing to fight anyone and I guess he'd be happy with another title shot
against it: their fighter would probably lose to their rival's fighter on the rival's network, and also that Ellerbe seems to personally hate Hearn and DAZN.
I fukk with Jack and I'd root for him, I wouldn't pick him to beat Bivol though
Jack needs to chill man..
exactly..ive said it before..Jack is one of the very few fighters that i believe a soft touch is needed and warranted to extend his career and rebuild..dude hasnt won a fight since 2017..other fighters claim to fight a murderers row of fighters..he's actually been doing it..he doesn't need a bivol fight
desjardins
Veteran
It's beginning to look like they not really free agents. DAZN in particular has really been stepping up making big offers for fights FANS WANT TO SEE. The excuses are beginning to not make sense if you take the free agent stuff as fact. Charlo would make a record pay day for 1 fight, if he wins he might can even negotiate a big long term with showtime/fox if Haymon scared of damaging relationships. It's literally no reason not to take the fight
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shyt, let Jack get a tune up first in like April and he'd prolly give Bivol a better go at it during the fall. Maybe even win. Hearn want the fight so much, why don't he pay for the tune up too and let Bivol main event, you know actually build this shyt up with a doubleheader first instead of random select mode.
but nah. Makes too much sense.
Bigblackted4
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Wilder signed a deal to fight on whatever platform they choose, but then Povetkin was called and DAZN came out of nowhere. He shouldn’t be put in with big Charlo. Big Charlo is not trying to risk losing his standing with Haymon, I mean who wouldn’t, also to fight a flake that already pulled out of a fight with your brother.
Bigblackted4
Superstar
It's beginning to look like they not really free agents. DAZN in particular has really been stepping up making big offers for fights FANS WANT TO SEE. The excuses are beginning to not make sense if you take the free agent stuff as fact. Charlo would make a record pay day for 1 fight, if he wins he might can even negotiate a big long term with showtime/fox if Haymon scared of damaging relationships. It's literally no reason not to take the fight
Are they not free agents or are they just loyal to the people that have helped grow them. shyt on both for not being free agents if that’s what we gone do.
reservoirdogs
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It's not black and white, it's not like DAZN would be the good boy, I guess it's complicated to make those fights but clearly, it seems the more important PBC guys can't just go anywhere.
It's beginning to look like they not really free agents. DAZN in particular has really been stepping up making big offers for fights FANS WANT TO SEE. The excuses are beginning to not make sense if you take the free agent stuff as fact. Charlo would make a record pay day for 1 fight, if he wins he might can even negotiate a big long term with showtime/fox if Haymon scared of damaging relationships. It's literally no reason not to take the fight
reservoirdogs
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Andrade had problems with the money, I don't know the details. But that was back then, now it's his network that would offer the fight (so I guess he gets to say ok to the details before they would send it over to Charlo's side) and money isn't a problem nowadays, fighters get paid like never before.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
I get you but he is already 36, it's only so long he can lengthen his career anyway, probably he thinks there's no point in rebuilding anymore, 36 is old even at 175, he just takes any high profile fight until he is still visible and a valuable opponent who can't be paid in change like he would if he would fall out of the picture for a little while at 36 and attempt to take the big fights after his value has dropped, a year or two later
this never fails to be reposted
One is a poster child on arguments where somebody winning an olympic gold or any medal doesnt mean anything in the pros if you underachieve
Another had motivation issues...would look a beast one minute and look unbelievably pedestrian the other...he is still active
The last I thought was overrated as all hell but the embodiment of boxing gold: a white american heavyweight..if not for the brain bleeds he may have been steered toward a title holder
im just not a fan of seeing jack being turned into a jobber to the stars without at least an attempt at trying to rebuild....thats all
reservoirdogs
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He's very competitive though, thought he should have beaten Pascal and he might very well edged Stevenson too (other way around too, draw was a good call probably), the only fight where I recall he was hopelessly beaten recently was against Browne.