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[LauderdaleBoss]

Manny/Keith
Lipinets/Peterson is a slept on fight .

shyt, Lipinets/Peterson was actually the first bout this year that was FOTY quality.

but yeah Pac/Thurman is prolly top 3 for me.

Roman/Denehy is prolly the most slept on FOTY. Hell, even Hurd n Jrock seems to be getting forgotten.

 

[patscorpio]

damn doug fischer is getting on the cuban school of boxing

some cat in his mailbag said the following

On another note, I was interested in the Ring’s updated rankings. I was surprised not to see Michael Hunter gate crash the heavyweight top 10 after being a little unlucky not to get the nod after his excellent clash with Povetkin. I’m also a little surprised to see Luis Ortiz still remaining in the top 5; he has just suffered his second stoppage defeat against the same fighter and has not got a really credible win at world level for more than four years.

Like many others, I feel that Josh Taylor is being sadly overlooked in the mythical P4P ratings. The Ring’s own top ten 140lb list shows that, as well as being an undefeated unified champion, Taylor has wins over 3 of the top 4 ranked contenders. I’m not sure anyone else can boast that!

dougie responds to that

I’m in full agreement that The Ring junior welterweight champ Josh Taylor deserves to be in the magazine’s pound-for-pound rankings. He’s one of the most battle-tested and accomplished champs in boxing and he’s achieved it all within 16 pro bouts and 4½ years. The Scotsman is truly impressive and I – along with fellow Ring editors Tom Gray and Brian Harty – pushed for him to at least crack the P4P rankings, but the Ratings Panel saw Manny Pacquiao in that No. 10 spot and would not allow a newbie to knock an aging all-time great from that perch. Sucks for Taylor, I know, but I think he’s the type to continue to take on the best and it’s only a matter of time before he forces his way into our mythical rankings.

Michael Hunter should be No. 9 in our rankings. That’s where the Ratings Panel wanted him after the Povetkin draw. His not being there is simply an oversight on the part of the editors. He’ll be added soon (in fact, I think the heavyweight top 10 has been updated). Tell Hunter he’s a Ring-rated contender if you follow him on social media. Regarding Luis Ortiz, what can I say? It’s gonna take a lot for him to drop. Nobody on the Panel will admit to it but I think it’s what I call the “Cuban Mystique.” Guillermo Rigondeaux is STILL in the junior featherweight top 5. It doesn’t matter that he went life and death with an unrated fighter in his last bout, or that he hasn’t defeated a Ring-rated contender since 2013. (Maybe Josh Taylor should start telling the boxing media that his grandfather was from Cuba.)

one of the cuban fighters needs to rise up and start bodying some fighters and rule at least one division outside of rigo

 

[patscorpio]

shyt, Lipinets/Peterson was actually the first bout this year that was FOTY quality.

but yeah Pac/Thurman is prolly top 3 for me.

Roman/Denehy is prolly the most slept on FOTY. Hell, even Hurd n Jrock seems to be getting forgotten.

roman vs doheny is the MOST slept on FOTY..shyt outshined king sor-estrada 2

hurd vs j rock shouldn't be forgotten either...bread was on twitter incredulous on why it wasn't selected by BWAA....fat dan was like it didnt get enough votes

 

[patscorpio]

There were a few rumbles this year I can look back on fondly.
Lipinets Peterson
Manny Keef was probably my favorite
J rock whooping black swift

I'll prolly rewatch a handful of fights over the holidays

you didnt like beterbiev vs gvozdyk?

 

[Tanahashi Coates]

a card? on a monday

Yeah, in Kazakhstan

 

[patscorpio]

Yeah, in Kazakhstan

let me guess..espn+

 

[Tanahashi Coates]

let me guess..espn+

Yep

 

[patscorpio]

Yep

one thing that espn+ needs to get its shyt together on is what fights air on it going forward in 2020...shyt is half the cost i pay for DAZN a month and i didn't get too much value for it on the boxing tip

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

damn doug fischer is getting on the cuban school of boxing

some cat in his mailbag said the following



dougie responds to that



one of the cuban fighters needs to rise up and start bodying some fighters and rule at least one division outside of rigo

Got damn
but where was the lie?

I been saying that shyt for years on here and on the podcasts.

Glad to see the world is finally catching on.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

you didnt like beterbiev vs gvozdyk?

I did like it alike. Will need to rewatch over the holidays though. My fighters didn't impress me much this year. Beterbeast is finally in a position to succeed though.

 

[The axe murderer]

i would love to see an ortiz vs ennis..two young high level Welter prospects

either that or get one of these nikkas to clean up stragglers like berto or ghost that insist on being on my tv screen as we are going into 2020

Its 2020 and we gonna see ghost on fight

 

[surv2syn]

Porter still loses to Bud in embarrassing fashion if Bud fights smart

he has to box him not engage like he did Mean Machine or he will look just like Spence did. no need to make the fight more difficult than it has to be. Porter is a good fighter but how good he actually is depends on how his opponents fight him.

 

[The axe murderer]

damn doug fischer is getting on the cuban school of boxing

some cat in his mailbag said the following



dougie responds to that



one of the cuban fighters needs to rise up and start bodying some fighters and rule at least one division outside of rigo

Agree with the fakkit on this one

Got damn
but where was the lie?

I been saying that shyt for years on here and on the podcasts.

Glad to see the world is finally catching on.

Only mystique is how they dominate in the amateurs but absolutely botch their pro career like a Bridgette b boob job to

 

[The axe murderer]

I did like it alike. Will need to rewatch over the holidays though. My fighters didn't impress me much this year. Beterbeast is finally in a position to succeed though.

Gvozdyk is a tricky guy and quick so beterbeast catching him impressed me. Bivol gotta come see the man

 

[Black_Jesus]

he has to box him not engage like he did Mean Machine or he will look just like Spence did. no need to make the fight more difficult than it has to be. Porter is a good fighter but how good he actually is depends on how his opponents fight him.

whether he engages or not Porter smothers his own work, and struggles to win rounds cleanly(not landing flush cause of his style).. All Bud gotta do is land his shots and he wins this