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[reservoirdogs]

Wilder is a great champion whom fought a fighter in Ortiz that the other big names were scared to face. Then fought the undefeated ex lineal champion. Now he's fighting the guy that gave him his most grueling dangerous fight in a highly anticipated rematch. Joshua said (verbatim) give me 50 mill and I'll fight you. Wilder's people gathered the money and Joshua puss'd out. Which ultimately didn't work out for him cause he got ko'd by the newly inked PBC client with a lesser name. Wilder is a legend. "till this day" will be remembered as much as "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" or one of his more serious quotes.

the pure delusion

Yeah he's a legend cause he beat old ass Ortiz. He's rematching someone who he already stopped and who was old as fukk even then and looked bad ever since.
He fought the undefeated lineal champion who was coming off 2 and a half years of hard drinking, coke snorting, mass eating, depression and 2 fights against the second best Albanian cruiserweight Sefer Seferi and Francisco Pianeta.
And he only escaped with a gift draw

Wilder would be food for any decent HWs in the 70s, I'm usually not the type who trashes everything in current boxing in favor of the oldschool, those decades had their problems and farces too but one thing is for damn sure, the HW division was a lot better in the last century than now.

 

[Conscious Pilot]

Was a dope moment but it’s nowhere near “Float like a Butterfly” Cmon now

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

All these people demanding this fight won't even pay for the PPV, that is why Crawford is only doing 100K buys if that. If the money was there it would have happened already. Spence is doing his part to make it a bigger fight so both guys make more money by fighting the top guys on his side behind the FOX marketing machine.

Don't nobody care about Crawford's next fight. He should go after a guy like Jessie Vargas at least he has some name recognition and has faced some top guys at 147. Spence got a whole lot of options at 147 and 154.

You know its bad when Jessie Vargas would be a better fight than everything you've done at 147 so far.

 

[Big Boss]

Wilder is a legend???

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Damn Andrade's mandatory signed to face murata instead of him..which means the number 2 is alantez fox..I sure as hell dont want to see that rematch

Facts...Keep that wrong sport ass nikka off my fukking tv.

 

[patscorpio]

Facts...Keep that wrong sport ass nikka off my fukking tv.

 

[Axum Ezana]

the pure delusion

Yeah he's a legend cause he beat old ass Ortiz. He's rematching someone who he already stopped and who was old as fukk even then and looked bad ever since.
He fought the undefeated lineal champion who was coming off 2 and a half years of hard drinking, coke snorting, mass eating, depression and 2 fights against the second best Albanian cruiserweight Sefer Seferi and Francisco Pianeta.
And he only escaped with a gift draw

Wilder would be food for any decent HWs in the 70s, I'm usually not the type who trashes everything in current boxing in favor of the oldschool, those decades had their problems and farces too but one thing is for damn sure, the HW division was a lot better in the last century than now.

Naw, but he would have a high chance of losing. I believe Wilder BAMA POWER is real. It's elite. Any time you have elite power you aint complete food. Don't mean you gonna win every fight either.

He would have been a poor mans Earnie shavers/George Foreman. Because those dudes had near steel chins and way better 15 rd stamina...etc. We've seen Wilder get rocked by the likes of Eric Molina and get gassed going 12 rds with Fury.

 

[The axe murderer]

shyt I like wilder but

 

[The axe murderer]

prime Tua vs prime Haye..

david vs david..

how do you see that?

haye fades and gets soul clapped

 

[The axe murderer]

double

 

[reservoirdogs]

Naw, but he would have a high chance of losing. I believe Wilder BAMA POWER is real. It's elite. Any time you have elite power you aint complete food. Don't mean you gonna win every fight either.

He would have been a poor mans Earnie shavers/George Foreman. Because those dudes had near steel chins and way better 15 rd stamina...etc. We've seen Wilder get rocked by the likes of Eric Molina and get gassed going 12 rds with Fury.

And Shavers and Foreman could fight in the trenches, Wilder is a strange ass fighter, he’s more of a slugger with a decent but not great jab who relies on fighting from the outside. When he has to fight in the pocket he’s in trouble, he usually just clinches to reset the distance. That’s why I think dudes like Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, Frazier, Norton would grind him down pretty fast. I don’t see Wilder keeping them off for long.

As you said lesser fighters found his chin. Some of these dudes might eat a few of his right hands too without getting knocked out.

 

[The axe murderer]

And Shavers and Foreman could fight in the trenches, Wilder is a strange ass fighter, he’s more of a slugger with a decent but not great jab who relies on fighting from the outside. When he has to fight in the pocket he’s in trouble, he usually just clinches to reset the distance. That’s why I think dudes like Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, Frazier, Norton would grind him down pretty fast. I don’t see Wilder keeping them off for long.

As you said lesser fighters found his chin. Some of these dudes might eat a few of his right hands too without getting knocked out.

that's why the AJ bout interests me. Will AJ gas or get caught before he grinds him cos on the inside AJ blasts him but on the outside Wilder is fast

 

[The Ruler 09]

Wilder is a great champion whom fought a fighter in Ortiz that the other big names were scared to face. Then fought the undefeated ex lineal champion. Now he's fighting the guy that gave him his most grueling dangerous fight in a highly anticipated rematch. Joshua said (verbatim) give me 50 mill and I'll fight you. Wilder's people gathered the money and Joshua puss'd out. Which ultimately didn't work out for him cause he got ko'd by the newly inked PBC client with a lesser name. Wilder is a legend. "till this day" will be remembered as much as "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" or one of his more serious quotes.

Ortiz is a myth, who's the best wins on Ortiz record? He's a good boxer but he's never proven he's truly elite, I don't think he's ever beaten a truly elite fighter. Also Dillian Whyte offered Ortiz the fight and he turned it down, Ortiz also turned down the AJ fight. He fought Fury because he thought he caught him at a good time, they've already admitted that, they didn't think he was ready which is why they took the fight, he wasn't and he still didn't get the win. That's a nice spin but it doesn't really hold up. Even the whole 50 mil thing is bogus but no point rehashing that as that's years ago and disputed it was even legit. What was legit and admitted by both sides was the 120 mil Wilder turned down, infact Wilder is on video saying how many times he's turned down the fight and his record high pay days. Wilder being a champion makes him go down in history, I agree with that, plus he has an exciting style, I'll always remember the Fury fight at least. But I think he could have done a lot more and been a better champion, he won't go down as 1 of the best ever with the resume he has now, he'd go down as a good champion with a hard punch, he needs to fight Fury again, AJ, Whyte, Usyk, Dubois and some real challengers, if he does that and wins by all means he wil be a credible legendary champion, for now he's just good.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

the pure delusion

Yeah he's a legend cause he beat old ass Ortiz. He's rematching someone who he already stopped and who was old as fukk even then and looked bad ever since.
He fought the undefeated lineal champion who was coming off 2 and a half years of hard drinking, coke snorting, mass eating, depression and 2 fights against the second best Albanian cruiserweight Sefer Seferi and Francisco Pianeta.
And he only escaped with a gift draw

Wilder would be food for any decent HWs in the 70s, I'm usually not the type who trashes everything in current boxing in favor of the oldschool, those decades had their problems and farces too but one thing is for damn sure, the HW division was a lot better in the last century than now.

More hate. Call me delusional but you're using fantasy matches from 70's heavies to discredit the undefeated knock out artist champ in 2019. Beat it you playa hating yahoo. Lol at him being "lucky to escape with a draw" from a dude he actually put to sleep and was actually saved by an emotional suspected white supremacist ref.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Ortiz is a myth, who's the best wins on Ortiz record? He's a good boxer but he's never proven he's truly elite, I don't think he's ever beaten a truly elite fighter. Also Dillian Whyte offered Ortiz the fight and he turned it down, Ortiz also turned down the AJ fight. He fought Fury because he thought he caught him at a good time, they've already admitted that, they didn't think he was ready which is why they took the fight, he wasn't and he still didn't get the win. That's a nice spin but it doesn't really hold up. Even the whole 50 mil thing is bogus but no point rehashing that as that's years ago and disputed it was even legit. What was legit and admitted by both sides was the 120 mil Wilder turned down, infact Wilder is on video saying how many times he's turned down the fight and his record high pay days. Wilder being a champion makes him go down in history, I agree with that, plus he has an exciting style, I'll always remember the Fury fight at least. But I think he could have done a lot more and been a better champion, he won't go down as 1 of the best ever with the resume he has now, he'd go down as a good champion with a hard punch, he needs to fight Fury again, AJ, Whyte, Usyk, Dubois and some real challengers, if he does that and wins by all means he wil be a credible legendary champion, for now he's just good.

Lol if ortiz a myth, them scary nikkas need to expose him. But they shook so they fight fights they think they can win (Joshua ruiz) (fury and that nobody he just fought) and still get fukked up anyway. Wilder is already credible. Brought heavyweight greatness back to America. Got that chump Joshua shook. Fury fought 2 bums for no apparent reason, otherwise his career would already be over courtesy of Wilder.
TIL this day!