nikka wilder is a paper champion...ortiz has not beaten 1 fighter who was a champ past or present
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Black_Jesus
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I see you ain’t answer the question.. don’t deflect... Who Burns beat better than Ortiz?
The problem is you have somebody like Ricky burns who has accomplished more than everyone of wilder's opponents he has beaten
True, but look at who Burns was fighting to accomplish all this shyt. nikka damn near lost ever time he stepped it up. Burns is just the Euro Ghost at this point.
all these nikkas are literally on the same level.
Exactly meanwhile the champs wilder beat don't have a single successful title defense between themI still
Dallas' 4 Eva
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And Wilder probably is the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time. Cause I've seen a lot of Foreman knockouts and a lot of Tyson knockouts, and even Shavers knockouts and they were all impressive and wowed me, Wilders knockouts don't get old no matter how many times I watch them.
Some of Wilders knockouts though had me like
, how the fukk did this cat survive that punch? I'm talking about these cats be looking dead sometimes bro, legit dead. It's some GOAT level shyt when it concerns power only.
Some of Wilders knockouts though had me like
, how the fukk did this cat survive that punch? I'm talking about these cats be looking dead sometimes bro, legit dead. It's some GOAT level shyt when it concerns power only.
Burns has Rocky Martinez zero; ortiz has Bryant Jennings zeroTrue, but look at who Burns was fighting to accomplish all this shyt. nikka damn near lost ever time he stepped it up. Burns is just the Euro Ghost at this point.
all these nikkas are literally on the same level.
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Femi DikkEaters Juelzing and mental gymnastics to hate on our Great American Heavyweight Champion 
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Burns has Rocky Martinez zero; ortiz has Bryant Jennings zero
Exactly and look how struggle Rocky Martinez was. Dude got 2 gifts on HBO. Rocky only ranks higher than Jennings cuz of the title he won, but dude underachieved and didn't box all that better than a late commer like Jennings. I don't even think highly of Ortiz like that either. Rivas came through and did the same shyt he did.
That's why I keep saying all these nikkas are on the same level.
I can respect this view cuz I know you're not stanning and are being objective
But when your best 3 victories are ortiz, stiverne, and liakhovich and the non champ is seen as your best win in 40 something fights...something ain't stirring the gotdamn kool aid breh lol...wilder and resume comparisons I can't take serious to a man who has 7 or 8 nikkas who were champions on his resume.
Last time I checked t-craw is American and that's what the comparison argument is all aboutFemi DikkEaters Juelzing and mental gymnastics to hate on our Great American Heavyweight Champion
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Downplaying the best American fighter on the planet on top being one of the most skilled and best in the world for wilder
I feel you, its just that any resume argument that includes. Wilder, Bud, or Tank, will always devolve into who has the prettiest trash heap. Bud resume is better, but its trash for an elite p4p guy. Wilder resume is trash for a heavyweight champion with 9 defenses. Tank resume is just trash period for anybody trying to become a superstar an household name.
The axe murderer
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He could have a legit case. He's like hearns and his trainer Mark Breland are tall guys that use those long levers to get nasty leverage and speed into those shots. How do people think hearns carried that power from welter to cruiser. The thing is he is a 6'7 guy and he like a golf club, light quick but can hit with some real force. His other skills are not really there and even lower guys outbox him but almost everyone he knocked out were heavier men.And Wilder probably is the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time. Cause I've seen a lot of Foreman knockouts and a lot of Tyson knockouts, and even Shavers knockouts and they were all impressive and wowed me, Wilders knockouts don't get old no matter how many times I watch them.
Some of Wilders knockouts though had me like
Can't argue any of this lol
The axe murderer
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And Wilder probably is the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time. Cause I've seen a lot of Foreman knockouts and a lot of Tyson knockouts, and even Shavers knockouts and they were all impressive and wowed me, Wilders knockouts don't get old no matter how many times I watch them.
Some of Wilders knockouts though had me like
Wild yes but thats a 6'7 man getting nasty torque into those shots.
Dallas' 4 Eva
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I think he may have decent timing too. He never throws it off a combo really, but he always knows exactly when to throw that punch almost like he studies them until he figures out there patterns. Plus Wilder is tough bruh, that onslaught Ortiz put on him in round 9 of the first fight would have dropped many other fighters including all time greats, and Wilder never folded. He needs to start getting some credit for something other than his power. As long as no one takes him serious as a fighter, instead of looling at him as a boxer he won't lose.