coming back to what?
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coming back to what?
RoidJonesJr
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It is relevant. How many people are spending money to see AJ in PPV in the US? when he was on Showtime ratings were never that great. Plus Al Haymon was the one that gave him his first title shot. Being a champ helped build his brand and sell more tickets.
You can't compare the UK market to the US, we have more options here. When Wilder fights he is competing against an NBA game, or UFC fight, etc. The real test is to see what the gate for AJ vs Miller is. Joshua is not going to ever have to face anyone good at this point look at the rankings for his titles (did they out Ortiz back?). Wilder has Fury, White, Ortiz, and everyone on the PBC roster.
Knicksman20
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Prospect Christian Carto from Philly.
Just watch
Just watch
i remember this..this was from raging babe's card..the highlights were shown like crazy lol
Knicksman20
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Got damn
Didn't even look like he got full extension on that shot either.
Yeah his left foot was twitching. I immediately paused it & had to look him up to make sure he wasn't in the hospital or worse
reservoirdogs
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Nah man, you can't spin those numbers on a way that a Wilder 50% is realistic
Again...
In his last 3 fights Joshua made more than twice what Wilder made in his last 9.
You can "UK this, UK that..." all you want but as you can see he still made a lot more than Wilder in the UK and will make even more in the US.
You can't just brush off that difference between the amounts with a "let's see the gates though".
Joshua got more than Wilder both in the UK and in the US too, that's what matters most when they decide about purse. They get the purse they get for a reason, not just for charity. Wilder being American doesn't automatically mean he can demand 50% if he can't make as much as Joshua either way regardless if we compare him to UK fighting Joshua or US fighting Joshua.
Joshua would be a damn fool to go to the US just so he can give Wilder 50%.
Why do you think DAZN wanted to pay 20 Ms for Wilder against Breazeale (still a huge fukking amount for that fight btw...) but they are willing to pay 35M to Joshua against Miller? Surely it's not because Miller is that much bigger of a name than Brehzale.
It's because Joshua's basic fight purse is higher to begin with and because they see a great long term investment in Joshua so they throw that money at him.
If they were only fighting on UK PPV then I wouldn't argue with you. Who can AJ fight to get US PPV money?
Wilder is the only one, and that is his argument for 50/50 you also have to consider it will be a 2 fight deal, and in past negotiations they were still saying Wilder should take less even if he beats AJ the first time. Wilder gave Fury a 50/50 split.
Whyte could have put himself in position to get a huge payday against Wilder. That fight would have raised both thier profiles in each market.
What was the split for the Klitchko and Parker fights?
t-craw-khan ppv - 69.95 HD; 59.95 SD
Knicksman20
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Don't know if it's been posted
Gonna find a cheap bar for this.. Not even really a good fight
FreedMind
DOPAMINE FOR MY BABY!!
Help me understand why Joshua's previous purses affects the percentage split for a fight with Wilder?
Look, just because Canelo is the highest paid athlete doesn't mean that Golovkin can't negotiate for a fair share of the pot, and the same goes for Wilder, ESPECIALLY because he's not even a Dazn or Hearn fighter. Wilder and the PBC must negotiate for a fair share, they bring a lot to the table.
Wilder getting hate, but the fact is that his profile ha only been rising, and just cause Joshua is getting paid don't mean Wilder can't. Let's not forget the alleged money Joshua turned down from PBC not too long ago either.