Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[bigbadbossup2012]

I disagree. They nee to start using that money on USA marketing. I had NO idea about the Rocky fight until a week before the fight. They also need to copy HBOs formula of introducing fans to the fighters via a story

Disagree with WHAT?

 

[morris]

Disagree with WHAT?

For stating that they were idiots for letting him fight that Rocky dude and that they're gon flop. Too early to tell

 

[trick]

I disagree. They nee to start using that money on USA marketing. I had NO idea about the Rocky fight until a week before the fight. They also need to copy HBOs formula of introducing fans to the fighters via a story

Yeah their ads are horrible. They feature Buffer more than Canelo. They didn’t announce the full fight card until a couple of days before fight night. They gotta do better.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

This is good news for boxing fans (if true).Hopefully DAZN pushes for the tough, interesting fights. You know Oscar would have been content cherrypicking bums.

Yup, nobody is going outta there way to fukk with an app to see a fight that nobody fukking wanted.

Canelo/Lemiuex was a better look and more people would make an effort to see a better fight. They basically tried to sell the Rocky fight off as Canelo conquering MSG, but that novelty wears off once you realize he's fighting a guy not even as good as Beefy.

 

[trick]

So DAZN passed on Chisora/Whyte, it wasn’t even showtime out bidding them. Dumb move, they barely have any content

 

[theflyest]

Yup, nobody is going outta there way to fukk with an app to see a fight that nobody fukking wanted.

Canelo/Lemiuex was a better look and more people would make an effort to see a better fight. They basically tried to sell the Rocky fight off as Canelo conquering MSG, but that novelty wears off once you realize he's fighting a guy not even as good as Beefy.

I didn’t even watch the fight. I don’t need to watch a fight like that to know what Canelo can do.

I remember when I use to watch every fight, but as you get older, you get busier. I’m just not gonna make the time for an event like this.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

For stating that they were idiots for letting him fight that Rocky dude and that they're gon flop. Too early to tell

They're sellin the app to the U.S.,NO ONE cares for are even knows Fielding here. It WAS stupid. As far as flopping. They paid 365 mill for Canelo specifically. That was clearly a power move. And it's one they're working the wrong way (so far).
I'm wrong? What matches are on the horizon that will hook people in to dazn?
I'm not saying it's impossible for them to become a success. I'M SAYING,if they want to make a big move with canelo,they're gonna need GGG,if not who is he gonna fight?
Maybe they can pay floyd 500 mil for one fight,lol.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I didn’t even watch the fight. I don’t need to watch a fight like that to know what Canelo can do.

I remember when I use to watch every fight, but as you get older, you get busier. I’m just not gonna make the time for an event like this.

I feel you. I mean I still watched it, but nowadays if I miss a meaningless fight, I won't track it down or anything like I used to do 15 years ago.

I've seen Canelo do bag work before. It's no big deal.

 

[patscorpio]

I feel you. I mean I still watched it, but nowadays if I miss a meaningless fight, I won't track it down or anything like I used to do 15 years ago.

I've seen Canelo do bag work before. It's no big deal.

well 15 years ago we didnt have tube sites like we do now lol

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

well 15 years ago we didnt have tube sites like we do now lol

True in 2003, youtube was just catching its wave and you really had to scour the net to find fights.

it felt like the world ended when you missed a fight back then. now its like missing random sparring at the gym that you know will happen again next week.

 

[KingOFKings]

The underlying problem with DAZN right now is that it's just too new for the casual viewer.

FOX is actually doing what Eddie Hearn said DAZN would...look at how FOX has already laid down the blueprint for promotion leading up to the Charlo fights this weekend. This is going to be a cookie cutter formula applied to every fight, every month for 4 years straight.

-PBC Countdown show to start the month on the main FOX channel, profiling each fighter 24/7 style.
-PBC Face to Face show interviewing the fighter on the main FOX channel
-PBC Inside PBC Boxing show twice a month on the main FOX channel and FS1
-Post conference shows, weigh in shows, pre and post studio shows for the fights
-Also have upped their social media with IG only and Youtube exclusive clips
-PBC fighters and fights will get plugged during NFL, NBA and MLB broadcasts

And ontop of that they are going to replay these shows throughout the week on FS1 non stop until even boxing fans get sick of them...this is how you build boxing up again!

So compare that to DAZN now...how is DAZN spreading the word? They don't have access to any of the above EXCEPT for an online presence...which only means one thing, they need to increase their online presence by about 100x.

There is no other way garner interest. They should be making fighter profiles and count down shows for everyone (including the Andrade's and Millers). I know they've touched on this slightly..yet they really need to put more effort in, as there is literally no other way. If Demetreus Andrade hits up a Patriots game and is announced, they're not going to show that on ESPN or FOX, or anything outside of social media.

They need to get their fighters on online shows like the Breakfast Club, or HOT 97. Focus on youtube only shows that get views and drive the growth from there. It can be done..look at Ryan Garcia.

Us hardcore fight fans think it's the fights...the fights play a small part for sure, but it's just unknown. DAZN needs to step it up if they want to complete.

 

[patscorpio]

everytime i wish for a big fight or notable fight to come to CT for almost 3 years...i am constantly disappointed

there are plenty of venues in CT for fights..CT has a history of it but noooo we are getting a fight with cletus the PED taking jew seldin in a main event

Cletus Seldin Back in Action on January 26 at Mohegan Sun

 

[patscorpio]

this shyt is wild what espn is doing...the valdez and commey fights are on regular espn but then after they are putting the kovalev-alvarez rematch and teofimo lopez on espn+ makes no damn sense

Teofimo Lopez, Commey-Chaniev, Valdez on Alvarez-Kovalev II

The hotly anticipated light heavyweight world title rematch featuring WBO champion Eleider “Storm” Alvarez and challenger Sergey “Krusher” Kovalev will stream live on ESPN+ and headline a huge night of boxing that will showcase a quartet of meaningful fights — including three world title bouts — spread across ESPN/ESPN Deportes and ESPN+ on Saturday, Feb. 2 at Ford Center at The Star, home to the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters and training facility.

Alvarez-Kovalev 2 and the return of unbeaten lightweight sensation Teofimo “Brooklyn” Lopez, fresh off a 44-second knockout of Mason Menard on Dec. 8, will stream live starting at 12 a.m. ET on ESPN+

Before the action turns to ESPN+, a pair of world title fights will take place on ESPN and ESPN Deportes, beginning at 10 p.m. ET.

Oscar Valdez will make the fifth defense of his WBO featherweight title against the unbeaten Carmine “Mr. Wolf” Tommasone. Valdez will be making his first ring appearance since suffering a severely broken jaw in a March 10 unanimous decision win against an overweight Scott Quigg.

In the ESPN-televised co-feature, presented by DiBella Entertainment, Richard Commey will battle Isa Chaniev for the vacant IBF lightweight world title.

Before the ESPN telecast, the entire undercard will stream live on ESPN+ starting at 7 p.m. ET.

Promoted by Top Rank, Main Events and Krusher Promotions, in association with Groupe Yvon Michel, tickets priced at $225, $165, $85, $55, and $25 (including facility fees) are on sale now and can be purchased at SeatGeek.com.

“It’s Super Saturday, and by syncing the ESPN linear and ESPN+ platforms for one night, fans have an incredible opportunity to watch a stacked show with many of the world’s best fighters and rising superstars,” said Top Rank President Todd duBoef.

7 p.m. – 10 p.m. — ESPN+ — Undercard Fights
10 p.m. – 12 a.m. — ESPN / ESPN Deportes — Oscar Valdez vs. Carmine Tommasone & Richard Commey vs. Isa Chaniev
12 a.m. — ESPN+ — Eleider Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev 2 & Teofimo Lopez vs. TBD

Valdez (24-0, 19 KOs) made his name as one of the sport’s foremost action stars with a trio of 12-round wars against Miguel Marriaga, Genesis Servania and Quigg. The Quigg fight was shrouded in controversy as the Englishman missed the featherweight limit by nearly three pounds and refused a day-of weight check. Valdez fought with a broken jaw against Quigg for more than half the fight and still managed to prevail via clear unanimous decision. Valdez, whose jaw was wired shut for two months after the bout, is ready to move on and prove that the injury was nothing more than a speed bump.

“It will be great to see our little warrior, Oscar Valdez, back in action on Feb. 2 after his full recovery from a broken jaw and a courageous victory over Quigg,” said Top Rank chairman Bob Arum. “Oscar always brings thrills and excitement to his fights.”

“The fans can expect the same Oscar Valdez as far as being an aggressive and exciting fighter,” Valdez said. “They are also going to see a different side that nobody has seen, which is the boxing skills that I also have and that I’m perfecting and learning with my new trainer, Eddy Reynoso.”

Tommasone (19-0, 5 KOs), an eight-year pro from Avellino, Campania, Italy, is a former Italian, European and WBA Intercontinental champion who will be making his first ring appearance outside of his home country. He captured the vacant European crown on Sept. 26, 2015 with a wide unanimous decision win against Jon Slowey. Tommasone made history at the 2016 Rio Olympics as the first professional to take part in an Olympic boxing match. One of three pros to participate at the 2016 Olympics, Tommasone won his opening bout before losing to the eventual bronze medalist, Cuba's Lazaro Alvarez.

Lopez (11-0, 9 KOs) has established himself as one of the sport’s rising superstars, a 21-year-old power-punching prodigy who is on the cusp of a world title shot. The one-punch KO of Menard, a “Knockout of the Year” candidate, was televised by ESPN on the Vasiliy Lomachenko-Jose Pedraza undercard. Following the knockout, Lopez went viral after he struck the Heisman pose and wore the jersey of Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray of the University of Oklahoma.

“I took over my last show, and I am going to do it again,” Lopez said. “‘The Takeover’ is coming to Texas, and I can’t wait to get back in the ring.”

Commey (27-2, 24 KOs), a native of Ghana and the IBF’s No. 1 contender, has won three consecutive bouts since a two-fight losing skid. He lost a razor-thin split decision to Robert Easter Jr. for the vacant IBF lightweight title on Sept. 9, 2016, knocking down Easter in the eighth round. Less than three months later, he was on the short end of another split decision, a controversial verdict against Denis Shafikov in Shafikov’s home country of Russia. Commey last fought Aug. 4 against Yardley Armenta Cruz and had little trouble in notching a second-round TKO.

Chaniev (13-1, 6 KOs) is battle-tested, having gone 10 rounds or more in five of his past six bouts. He is on a three-bout winning streak since a close 12-round unanimous decision to Fedor Papazov on May 25 of last year. He is coming off his most impressive victory to date, a unanimous decision against former interim lightweight world champion Ismael Barroso. Chaniev survived a second-round knockdown to score a pair of knockdowns and secure the win.

"When I started working with Richard in September 2016, our plan was to give him another chance to fulfill his dream of becoming a world champion,” promoter Lou DiBella said. “While Chaniev is a very tough Russian fighter, I'm confident that Richard has the skills, punching power and the mental toughness to come out victorious. Thanks very much to ESPN and Top Rank for partnering with DiBella Entertainment in televising this outstanding lightweight championship battle.”

“I have to say a big thank you to my promoter, Lou DiBella. I know how hard it is for Ghanaian fighters to get promoted by the top promoters, but Lou has consistently shown that if he thinks you’re the man, then he will be the man for you,” Commey said “He has shown this by the investment DiBella Entertainment has put in me and by getting me this shot at the title and securing it in the United States. I also want to thank my manager, Michael Amoo-Bediako, for the faith he has put in me over all these years. He is more than a manager to me, and come Feb. 2, I will be repaying him in full.”

“I have the biggest motivation ever to win, and there is no other result that will satisfy me,” Chaniev said. “On Feb. 2, I will demonstrate all my skills and hard preparation. Some people don’t think I will win, but they will be shocked on Feb. 2. No bad words or any disrespect to Commey. He is an excellent fighter.”

 

[patscorpio]

good effective body punching

 

[aceboon]

this shyt is wild what espn is doing...the valdez and commey fights are on regular espn but then after they are putting the kovalev-alvarez rematch and teofimo lopez on espn+ makes no damn sense

Trying to get folks to subscribe to that ESPN+