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reservoirdogs
Superstar
Yes that's my final conclusion tooi just think Arum made ESPN his preferred network but i dont think any of the fighters are signed to ESPN..i think.. lets say he didn't overpay on the purse bid for hooker-saucedo and hearn won that shyt....saucedo would be fighting on DAZN for his title shot
So... basically none of the 4 important promoters tie their fighters with network contracts
That's great in my opinion
And money is flowing into boxing
Boxing fans tend to be pessimistic about the sport and its future and I don't say that without any reason but it seems like big networks and media enterprises really see something in this generation of boxers cause otherwise they wouldn't pump money like that in it
US boxing as a whole has a whole lot more money to throw around in 2018 than it had in the Sho vs HBO era
seems like ppl who predicted boxing's downfall after May vs Pac were wrong
These segmentation along with deals that is going on these days only benefits one group of people: the boxer...it gives THEM multiple avenues to make money.
There is no real upside for the fans unless we get some cross promotional fights/superfights made. Let's be honest there's only a small percentage of hardcore fight fans that will sign up for every channel or streaming service available..im sure the numbers will be even smaller for the casual fight fan.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
I don’t agree with this. When it was HBO vs Showtime 6 years ago, cross-promotional, guesting on another channel kind if fights were rare now they are more often.
2017 been a great year for the sport
2018 is arguably as good or at least not far behind.
As for the money for US fans you’re right but the amount you have to pay is still not horrific imo. And more outlet means bigger reach imo
Yup
One of boxing's biggest problem (among other things) is the inability to create new hardcore fans or at least advanced casuals at a consistent rate.
A lot of our super events or non-cable prime time fights either end up being boring, anti-climatic, forced, or controversial.
and then you get all these 2nd rate fights spread out over all types of channels and networks that some people might not have.
Before you just had to have HBO, Showtime, and Espn. Then you had the lil telemundo cards on the spanish channels if it was a slow week, and you were good.
Nowadays you gotta have
FS1
BEIN
WealthTv
Bounce
DAZN
to basically see the same level of fights that we used to get with just having 3 or 4 networks. The fans been getting fukked for a while and its only going to get worse.
They need to create a boxing package or something similar to the NFL/NBA package at these cable companies.
WBC May Create Rule That Blocks Parent From Working a Corner
The days of a father running the corner of his son during boxing matches could very well be numbered, at least according to the World Boxing Council - whic is currently scrutinizing the parental role.
Mindful of the implications of the father and son dilemma, the WBC conducting an ongoing pilot program, doing interviews, gathering data - following a proposal made during the WBC's Miami convention, regarding parents in the corner of a fighter as chief seconds.
The WBC has concerns over a a potential mental conflict, where a fighter will continue to push himself - even with their health at risk - because their parent is in the corner.
WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman said: "We believe there is a natural obstacle and we are evaluating what is happening. There is a situation which mixes emotions, and it`s our experience that it not recommendable to have fathers in the corner. Having said that, there are many fighters today, who are working with a parent for a long time, so we are carefully looking into it.
"You are much more demanding of your son for school grades and in any sport, and the son has much more pride in the presence of his father, so he doesn`t give up as dad is right there."
Ironically, this coming Saturday night at the Barclays Center in New York - two boxers, who are trained by their respective fathers, are colliding for the vacant WBC welterweight title. Shawn Porter, who is trained by father Kenny Porter, is going to trade punches with Danny Garcia, who is trained by father Angel Garcia.
how convenient
The days of a father running the corner of his son during boxing matches could very well be numbered, at least according to the World Boxing Council - whic is currently scrutinizing the parental role.
Mindful of the implications of the father and son dilemma, the WBC conducting an ongoing pilot program, doing interviews, gathering data - following a proposal made during the WBC's Miami convention, regarding parents in the corner of a fighter as chief seconds.
The WBC has concerns over a a potential mental conflict, where a fighter will continue to push himself - even with their health at risk - because their parent is in the corner.
WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman said: "We believe there is a natural obstacle and we are evaluating what is happening. There is a situation which mixes emotions, and it`s our experience that it not recommendable to have fathers in the corner. Having said that, there are many fighters today, who are working with a parent for a long time, so we are carefully looking into it.
"You are much more demanding of your son for school grades and in any sport, and the son has much more pride in the presence of his father, so he doesn`t give up as dad is right there."
Ironically, this coming Saturday night at the Barclays Center in New York - two boxers, who are trained by their respective fathers, are colliding for the vacant WBC welterweight title. Shawn Porter, who is trained by father Kenny Porter, is going to trade punches with Danny Garcia, who is trained by father Angel Garcia.
how convenient
seemorecizzy
Superstar
this is the dumbest idea everWBC May Create Rule That Blocks Parent From Working a Corner
The days of a father running the corner of his son during boxing matches could very well be numbered, at least according to the World Boxing Council - whic is currently scrutinizing the parental role.
Mindful of the implications of the father and son dilemma, the WBC conducting an ongoing pilot program, doing interviews, gathering data - following a proposal made during the WBC's Miami convention, regarding parents in the corner of a fighter as chief seconds.
The WBC has concerns over a a potential mental conflict, where a fighter will continue to push himself - even with their health at risk - because their parent is in the corner.
WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman said: "We believe there is a natural obstacle and we are evaluating what is happening. There is a situation which mixes emotions, and it`s our experience that it not recommendable to have fathers in the corner. Having said that, there are many fighters today, who are working with a parent for a long time, so we are carefully looking into it.
"You are much more demanding of your son for school grades and in any sport, and the son has much more pride in the presence of his father, so he doesn`t give up as dad is right there."
Ironically, this coming Saturday night at the Barclays Center in New York - two boxers, who are trained by their respective fathers, are colliding for the vacant WBC welterweight title. Shawn Porter, who is trained by father Kenny Porter, is going to trade punches with Danny Garcia, who is trained by father Angel Garcia.
how convenient
reservoirdogs
Superstar
WBC May Create Rule That Blocks Parent From Working a Corner
The days of a father running the corner of his son during boxing matches could very well be numbered, at least according to the World Boxing Council - whic is currently scrutinizing the parental role.
Mindful of the implications of the father and son dilemma, the WBC conducting an ongoing pilot program, doing interviews, gathering data - following a proposal made during the WBC's Miami convention, regarding parents in the corner of a fighter as chief seconds.
The WBC has concerns over a a potential mental conflict, where a fighter will continue to push himself - even with their health at risk - because their parent is in the corner.
WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman said: "We believe there is a natural obstacle and we are evaluating what is happening. There is a situation which mixes emotions, and it`s our experience that it not recommendable to have fathers in the corner. Having said that, there are many fighters today, who are working with a parent for a long time, so we are carefully looking into it.
"You are much more demanding of your son for school grades and in any sport, and the son has much more pride in the presence of his father, so he doesn`t give up as dad is right there."
Ironically, this coming Saturday night at the Barclays Center in New York - two boxers, who are trained by their respective fathers, are colliding for the vacant WBC welterweight title. Shawn Porter, who is trained by father Kenny Porter, is going to trade punches with Danny Garcia, who is trained by father Angel Garcia.
how convenient
It's tiring how these goofy mfers try to separate themselves from the other belt organization by the way of having a fukking opinion on everything they have nothing to do with and by the way of handling out gift belts for every occasion, I legit wouldn't have been surprised if they go ahead and give the winner of KSI vs Logan Paul a WBC Youtube belt either. This case has it both.
Boxing community especially Mexican boxing community needs to stop idolizing this clown ass organization asap, they are just as trash as the WBA or WBO but they still have the benefit of the doubt because their prestigious past. Their past shouldn't overwrite how trash they are currently, how you gonna give them a free pass...
I knew he was hurt to the body, he gets hit with a perfect left hook to the liver and seconds later gets hit with the jab that shook him.
Terence Crawford vs. Jose Benavidez Finalized, October 13
Terence “Bud” Crawford will return to the scene of many of his greatest professional triumphs intent on stopping a man who has repeatedly lobbied for a fight. Crawford will make the first defense of his WBO welterweight world title against Jose Benavidez Jr. on Saturday, Oct. 13 at the CHI Health Center Omaha (formerly the CenturyLink Center). Crawford-Benavidez will air live and exclusively on ESPN and ESPN Deportes at 10:30 p.m. ET with undercards streaming live in the United States at 7 p.m. ET on ESPN+ - the new multi-sport, direct-to-consumer subscription streaming service from The Walt Disney Company's Direct-to-Consumer & International segment in conjunction with ESPN.
It was Benavidez who challenged Crawford in Corpus Christi, Texas, this past February, accusing him of ducking a potential showdown. Crawford invited Benavidez to “step outside” before cooler heads prevailed. They will settle the score in front of a raucous crowd who will be cheering on their hometown hero.
ESPN’s coverage of the event starts Friday, Oct. 12 with the live Top Rank on ESPN Crawford vs. Benavidez Jr. Weigh-In show. Lineup (ET):
TV:
5:30-6:00 p.m., ESPN2 (LIVE, Main and Co-Main Events)
9:00 p.m.-9:30 p.m.; 1:30 a.m.-2:00 a.m., ESPNEWS (repeat)
Streaming on ESPN+:
5:00-6:00 p.m., ESPN+ (streaming LIVE, entire card)
Promoted by Top Rank, tickets to this world championship event go on sale Tuesday, Sept. 11 at 10 a.m. CST. Priced at $178, $103, $63, and $38, not including applicable fees, tickets can be purchased at the CHI Health Center Omaha box office, all Ticketmaster outlets, by phone at 800-745-3000, or online at ticketmaster.com.
“The Crawford-Benavidez fight is an old-time grudge match. These are two elite fighters who don’t care for each other, to put it mildly,” said Bob Arum, Top Rank’s founder and CEO. “They will battle each other at a fever pitch. I can’t wait to watch the action.”
“This fight is the fight he has been calling for, and now he will get the chance to see what it’s like to be in the ring with a real champion,” Crawford said. I’ll happily give him his first L.”
“I’ve been wanting this fight for three years. I know I have what it takes to beat him, and I am going to beat him,” Benavidez said. “Crawford has been running his mouth and saying I’m a nobody. I’m going to take full advantage of this opportunity.”
Crawford (33-0, 24 KOs) is a three-division world champion, a pound-for-pound elite who was recently named “Fighter of the Year” at the 2018 ESPY Awards. In his first bout of 2018, June 9 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, he defeated defending WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn via ninth-round TKO. Crawford did not miss a beat against Horn despite a nearly 10-month layoff due to a hand injury. Prior to dominating Horn, Crawford became only the third fighter of the four-belt era to unify all the belts when he knocked out fellow unified 140-pound champion Julius Indongo in the third round. Crawford has drawn a total of 44,360 fans in four bouts at the CHI Health Center Omaha, including nearly 11,000 when he knocked down Yuriorkis Gamboa four times en route to a ninth-round TKO to retain the WBO lightweight title in one of the best fights of 2014. Five months after the Gamboa win, Crawford cruised to a wide unanimous decision against Ray Beltran, who went on to win that title more than three years later. In his most recent CHI Health Center Omaha appearance, Dec. 10, 2016 against John Molina Jr., 11,270 fans packed the building as Crawford battered Molina before stopping him in the eighth round. Crawford is 11-0 with eight knockouts in world title bouts and is ranked by many boxing experts as the world’s best fighter.
Benavidez (27-0, 18 KOs), a former WBA interim super lightweight champion, turned pro in 2010 following a standout amateur career that included a 2009 National Golden Gloves gold medal at 141 pounds. His road to this career-defining fight has been anything but smooth, as he was shot multiple times in an August 2016 incident in his hometown of Phoenix. After a nearly 18-month layoff, Benavidez returned on Feb. 3, 2018 in Corpus Christi with an eighth-round TKO against Matthew Strode. It was before the weigh-in for the Strode bout that Benavidez confronted Crawford. Benavidez last fought on the Crawford vs. Horn undercard, knocking out the previously undefeated Frank Rojas at 1:23 of the opening round.
I literally yawn and roll my eyes whenever a Crawford fight is announced. 
I literally yawn and roll my eyes whenever a Crawford fight is announced.
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
I literally yawn and roll my eyes whenever a Crawford fight is announced.
Top Rank still got that random Euro for Bud still too
Amor fati
Superstar
I literally yawn and roll my eyes whenever a Crawford fight is announced.
Top Rank still got that random Euro for Bud still too
Classic Top Rank matchmaking, thank Crypt Keeper Bob.