Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[OGBobbyJohnson]

Its because the majority of posters here have either boxed or box. There are somethings that are just obvious man. His deficiencies as a fighter arr just too big for a guy w a jab and a right hand like Wilder man that shyt is different and he has done nothing but work on making it and the things around it better. In this very thread youll find me posting gifs of him getting flung around the ring as an ammy and stumbling around as a pro with ? about his chin and ability to fight hurt. After Ortiz those are gone. Thats what happens when you fight good opps you get better. Meanwhile Joshua best opp is still a 45 yr old Wlad who I am a stan of but was in the Jennings thread saying he is washed. Everything im saying can be verified w a @Newzz style argument pull up of post

The people here that are Joshua stans think its 50/50 that speaks a lot not even they comdortable in their man.

Ive been VERY critical of Wilder on here but in every fight thread of his here I talk about the improvements he has made since he became a name N whar he still needs. Joshua has made none man, to me its the UK boxing gyms aint shyt. Joshua needs a Manny Steward R.I.P. in his corner he would legit turn that nikka into a monster.

I could imagine the disgust that nikka would have had, had Joshua came back to the corner after 8 against Parker

It's crazy you said this because I was watching the Joshua fight Saturday thinking of how good he could be if he had Manny training him..Wilder too..Wilder being trained by Manny would've been
Manny might be the GOAT trainer that I've ever seen

 

[patscorpio]

This shyt hasn't launched yet and I'm already irritated with it...this extra espn+ service

 

[Skip b]

Wilder could get AJ out of there with the Stiverne approach.

Second half of your post is retarded, per usual.

My dikk halfway in your mouth, per usual

lmao
pacquaio is NOT winnin this fight

My Mind says Manny Ko's within 8, but my eyes saw Horn box the shyt out that man last fight, with age and inactivity to boot; idk, Manny may go down hard, rooting for him though

 

[Scottie Drippin]

I was a vocal Wilder hater. He has grown while AJ has stagnated. Wilder was project who was an overrated hype job but unlike others in his spot before him, genuinely wants to be great and hasn't run away from the work. He does something we didn't expect out of him every time he's in the ring. For years I thought King Kong would starch him but instead he finished him after a tough fight that he was winning.

We've seen Joshua get genuinely puzzled by big dudes with movement who jabbed...and they weren't even all that athletic or active. Wlad used jabs and feints for entire rounds and had that dude looking like he was trying to solve a rubix cube with his gloves on

I just don't see how you can judge their last three fights against each other and have AJ as the favorite. All he's shown are his limitations and flashes of brilliance while Wilder has been slowly maximizing his strengths and limiting his weaknesses.

Of course, it's still largely a toss-up fight but it's 60-40 Wilder for me.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I was a vocal Wilder hater. He has grown while AJ has stagnated. Wilder was project who was an overrated hype job but unlike others in his spot before him, genuinely wants to be great and hasn't run away from the work. He does something we didn't expect out of him every time he's in the ring. For years I thought King Kong would starch him but instead he finished him after a tough fight that he was winning.

We've seen Joshua get genuinely puzzled by big dudes with movement who jabbed...and they weren't even all that athletic or active. Wlad used jabs and feints for entire rounds and had that dude looking like he was trying to solve a rubix cube with his gloves on

I just don't see how you can judge their last three fights against each other and have AJ as the favorite. All he's shown are his limitations and flashes of brilliance while Wilder has been slowly maximizing his strengths and limiting his weaknesses.

Of course, it's still largely a toss-up fight but it's 60-40 Wilder for me.

Last 3 fights?

I can´t see it

AJ´s 2 fights out of the three were lackluster, forgettable but the only time he came close to losing was against Wlad and Wilder had an almost same script against Ortiz last month.
Other than the Wlad and Ortiz fights Joshua beat 2 fighters, Takam and Parker who are definitely better than the shopworn, inactive version of Stiverne who got bombed out by Wilder and I think they also represent a higher level than Washington.
So I just think AJ´s last 2 fights were less entertaining but that´s all it's not like he has been exposed. He was in there with 2 awkward, durable guys. If anything his hidden strengths and weaknesses were exposed against Wlad but so did Wilder´s against Ortiz.


I do agree with you on Joshua stagnating though, maybe his stamina getting better, he didn't look exhausted against Parker, although that doesn´t tell a lot because the pace wasn´t fast. So I hold up my judgement.

 

[patscorpio]

I just don't see how you can judge their last three fights against each other and have AJ as the favorite. All he's shown are his limitations and flashes of brilliance while Wilder has been slowly maximizing his strengths and limiting his weaknesses.

how..wilder vs washington dude was getting outboxed until he landed his right hand..stiverne nothing was really addressed...ortiz...he showed some good recovery and survival skills before landing that right hand but he was being outboxed by ortiz beforehand....this is why i call him the heavyweight randall bailey

 

[malbaker86]

Oddly enough, i dont think both of their respective weaknesses can be exposed by the other one.

Wilder can't box like Vlad and AJ can't box like Ortiz

Its just going to come down to who gets hit first with and how hard the hit is

 

[Skip b]

Oddly enough, i dont think both of their respective weaknesses can be exposed by the other one.

Wilder can't box like Vlad and AJ can't box like Ortiz

Its just going to come down to who gets hit first with and how hard the hit is

How old was Wlad...How long was he inactive.....how many times Wlad got Koed before........Where does AJ KO of Wlad rank on that list.......Two different level of fighters kill that noise



As far as Wald htf you are a superb boxer when you cant pull the trigger on someone your size with the target right square in the middle of your face...... Lets not inflate AJ off a 40 year old Wlad, he found himself on the canvas and found himself losing before Wlad snatched a defeat out the jaws of victory getting lazy

Does AJ even have one punch pop.......Off tape he is a accumulation guy, and has faced alot of cans to boot.....

 

[reservoirdogs]

Oddly enough, i dont think both of their respective weaknesses can be exposed by the other one.

Wilder can't box like Vlad and AJ can't box like Ortiz

Its just going to come down to who gets hit first with and how hard the hit is

that and where the fight takes place, don´t mean the country by that but in the ring

 

[malbaker86]

How old was Wlad...How long was he inactive.....how many times Wlad got Koed before........Where does AJ KO of Wlad rank on that list.......Two different level of fighters kill that noise



As far as Wald htf you are a superb boxer when you cant pull the trigger on someone your size with the target right square in the middle of your face...... Lets not inflate AJ off a 40 year old Wlad, he found himself on the canvas and found himself losing before Wlad snatched a defeat out the jaws of victory getting lazy

Does AJ even have one punch pop.......Off tape he is a accumulation guy, and has faced alot of cans to boot.....

The point is, cam Wilder win on points if he can't knock him out cause that means he'll have to show boxing skills for 12 rounds against a top opponent and that he hasn't done yet through NO fault of his own

 

[Newzz]

Deontay Wilder has better Boxing skills than Anthony Joshua, more speed, more power, more reach, more dog, more heart, more courage, and more confidence & belief in himself



It's only a matter of time before Im upping all of @patscorpio, @TheNig, @reservoirdogs, and all the UKasuals posts with them talking disrespectfully about Wilder going and at their outlandish posts with no let up for at least 2 weeks straight....or until I get bored



I can feel it, I can feel it in the air..........................can you?




:bombzquad: #BombZquad

 

[patscorpio]

Ward confirmed for Creed 2 - Creed II Begins Production in Philadelphia - ComingSoon.net

Production starts in Philadelphia for Creed II
Production begins today in Philadelphia on Metro Goldwyn Mayer Pictures (MGM) and Warner Bros. Pictures’ Creed II, starring Michael B. Jordan and Sylvester Stallone, reprising their roles of Adonis Creed and Rocky Balboa, respectively. Creed II is the continuation of the Rocky saga and sequel to the 2015 critically-acclaimed and crowd-pleasing 2015 hit Creed, which took in more than $170 million at the worldwide box office. Ryan Coogler (Black Panther), who directed the first film, returns to the franchise as an executive producer on Creed II. The new film is being directed by Steven Caple Jr., who helmed the acclaimed 2016 drama The Land.

“When I wrote and directed ‘Creed,’ I wanted to tell a human story about a family from a new perspective, while also paying homage to the Rocky characters we’ve all grown up knowing and loving. I’ve known Steven was an amazing filmmaker since our days at USC film school together, so I can’t wait to see what he, Sly, Mike, and Tessa bring to this next chapter,” said Coogler.

Caple Jr. said, “It’s an honor to be a part of the franchise and work with such a thoughtful team. I got involved because I’ve always been a Rocky fan and I enjoy stories with heart and substance. But when Ryan put his touch on ‘Creed’ I felt another level of connection to the franchise. It started to feel personal for many different reasons. This next ‘Creed’ is a tale beyond the boxing ring and dives deep into family, legacy, and fears. I’m excited to share my view and collaborate with the talented cast and crew.”

“Ryan and Steven are voices for their generation and their shared vision for Creed has brought the Rocky franchise to an entirely new audience. We know audiences will continue to embrace the legacy that Sly created so many years ago,” said producer Irwin Winkler.

Life has become a balancing act for Adonis Creed. Between personal obligations and training for his next big fight, he is up against the challenge of his life. Facing an opponent with ties to his family’s past only intensifies his impending battle in the ring. Rocky Balboa is there by his side through it all and, together, Rocky and Adonis will confront their shared legacy, question what’s worth fighting for, and discover that nothing’s more important than family. Creed II is about going back to basics to rediscover what made you a champion in the first place, and remembering that, no matter where you go, you can’t escape your history.

Also reprising their roles from the first film are Tessa Thompson as Bianca, Phylicia Rashad as Mary Anne, Wood Harris as Tony ‘Little Duke’ Burton, and Andre Ward as Danny ‘Stuntman’ Wheeler. The new cast is rounded out with Florian “The Big Nasty” Munteanu as Viktor Drago, Dolph Lundgren returning to the role of Ivan Drago, and Russell Hornsby as Buddy Marcelle. Creed II will be distributed theatrically in the U.S. by MGM on November 21, 2018, and Warner Bros. Pictures will distribute the film internationally.

Caple Jr. directs from an original screenplay written by Stallone based on characters from the Rocky franchise. The film is produced by Irwin Winkler, Charles Winkler, William Chartoff, David Winkler, Kevin King-Templeton, and Stallone. Coogler, Jordan and Guy Riedel will executive produce.

Collaborating with Caple Jr. is a creative team led by director of photography Kramer Morgenthau (Thor: The Dark World, Game of Thrones); production designer Franco Carbone (The Expendables, Billionaire Boys Club); costume designers Lizz Wolf (A Single Man, Dreamgirls); art director Jesse Rosenthal (Black Panther, Trumbo); fight coordinator Daniel Hernandez (Avengers: Infinity War, The Fate of the Furious); technical boxing advisor Robert Sale (Grudge Match, Ali); special effects coordinator Patrick White (Baby Driver, Deepwater Horizon) and VFX producer Crystal Dowd (Straight Outta Compton, Pitch Perfect 2). Filming will take place primarily in Philadelphia with additional locations in New Mexico.

Creed, directed by Coogler, was released by Metro Goldwyn Mayer Pictures, Warner Bros. Pictures and New Line Cinema in November 2015 and went on to garner many honors for Stallone, including a Golden Globe Award for Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture, and an Academy Award nomination for Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role.


Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/934619-production-begins-creed-2#zhSy3xUfPtZiLhYd.99

 

[GzUp]

Adrien Broner is Now Being Sued For Sexual Battery
BoxngScene.com reported back in February that former four division world champion Adrien Broner was arrested and booked into Atlanta's Fulton County Jail on a misdemeanor charge of sexual battery.

Kaila Crews has accused Broner of inappropriately groping her at the Lenox Square shopping center.

A year ago, police pulled Broner over in an SUV riddled with bullet holes in Covington, Kentucky, and arrested him on an open warrant for a 2014 public intoxication charge. That was less than three weeks after he pleaded not guilty to aggravated robbery and felonious assault when a man accused him of assaulting him outside Madison Bowl in Oakley.

Now according to a report onTMZ, the alleged victim in the case has filed a lawsuit against Broner for sexual battery. She claims in the legal documents that Broner groped her genitals.

She alleges that while shopping at the mall, Broner approached her and "swiped his hand across [her] private parts."

"At no point had Plaintiff given [Broner] permission to touch any part of her body," Crews' lawsuit states.

Part of the incident was captured on video -- including the moment Broner was handcuffed by police.

Crews claims she suffered emotional distress from the incident and says Broner needs to pay up for any injuries she experienced, along with pain and suffering.

As for the criminal case, investigators are still collecting evidence.

Broner (33-3, 24 KOs) is scheduled to headline a Showtime televised main event on April 21 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. He is set to face former world champion Jessie Vargas. It will be Broner's first bout since losing a twelve round unanimous decision to Mikey Garcia last July, at the same Brooklyn venue.

Recently, Broner had promised to change his entire career around and stay away from trouble as an effort to turn his life around. He began training with Kevin Cunningham as a way to polish up his skills and go through a tough camp, as a loss to Vargas could spell the end of his career as a headliner.

 

[Skip b]

Adrien Broner is Now Being Sued For Sexual Battery
BoxngScene.com reported back in February that former four division world champion Adrien Broner was arrested and booked into Atlanta's Fulton County Jail on a misdemeanor charge of sexual battery.

Kaila Crews has accused Broner of inappropriately groping her at the Lenox Square shopping center.

A year ago, police pulled Broner over in an SUV riddled with bullet holes in Covington, Kentucky, and arrested him on an open warrant for a 2014 public intoxication charge. That was less than three weeks after he pleaded not guilty to aggravated robbery and felonious assault when a man accused him of assaulting him outside Madison Bowl in Oakley.

Now according to a report onTMZ, the alleged victim in the case has filed a lawsuit against Broner for sexual battery. She claims in the legal documents that Broner groped her genitals.

She alleges that while shopping at the mall, Broner approached her and "swiped his hand across [her] private parts."

"At no point had Plaintiff given [Broner] permission to touch any part of her body," Crews' lawsuit states.

Part of the incident was captured on video -- including the moment Broner was handcuffed by police.

Crews claims she suffered emotional distress from the incident and says Broner needs to pay up for any injuries she experienced, along with pain and suffering.

As for the criminal case, investigators are still collecting evidence.

Broner (33-3, 24 KOs) is scheduled to headline a Showtime televised main event on April 21 at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. He is set to face former world champion Jessie Vargas. It will be Broner's first bout since losing a twelve round unanimous decision to Mikey Garcia last July, at the same Brooklyn venue.

Recently, Broner had promised to change his entire career around and stay away from trouble as an effort to turn his life around. He began training with Kevin Cunningham as a way to polish up his skills and go through a tough camp, as a loss to Vargas could spell the end of his career as a headliner.

'Another Battery'

 

[Newzz]

These numbers are TERRIBLE



Like I said, the only person who needs to do some "across seas promo" is Anthony Joshua. Dude is doing horrible numbers on Showtime every time out




How can you expect to sell a PPV to America when you're doing numbers like these?