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BF's player base will be split and dwindle as time goes on for the DLC maps. It always happens on consoles. They know this, yet they continue to do it. It's stupid af.I'm not justifying it but look at the amount of content Dice gives you in a map pack. At least 5 guns 4 new maps playable on all modes new vehicles melee weapons gadgets new game modes ect.You compare that to other games Rainbow Six for example it doesn't come close IDC if its free or not.R6 you get 2 new operators plus a free map per a season
Free maps should be standard in multiplayer games, there are other ways to rape your fans without hurting the general community by doing this. BF Youtubers been saying this for a while. None of them cosigning the Season Pass model with how it's set up, because they see how it impacts the game as time goes on.
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You make all map rotation servers similar to what Hardline has currently its a non issue on consoles. Don't have the DLC you get kicked its that simple
Make the maps free for everybody, if you don't have the Season Pass, you don't gain XP towards unlocks when playing on the DLC maps. It's that simple.
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Nobody is spending $50 for a season pass for just XP&camos
That's on DICE to come up with value. Season Pass for early access to the maps and XP/camos is where you start. And yes, the hardcore fan (which is who buys these Season Passes to begin with) isn't going to be playing on DLC maps for hours without getting XP or being able to unlock shyt. The casual wouldn't give a fukk, cause he just wants to game with his friends.Nobody is spending $50 for a season pass for just XP&camos
Casuals aren't spending 50 dollars on top of the 60 initial price anyway, so I don't get your point.
The more I think about it... the more I realize it's a complete cop out and money grab for these nikkas to continue with their traditional Season Pass strategy 
Another solution would be for them to make the previous DLC map pack free once the new one is available. It's not perfect, but it's better than the bullshyt they are selling now. Who the fukk is buying individual map pack DLC besides idiots anyway?
Destiny does this and it's why the game is still popping online to this day. Whenever the new expansion/DLC drops, they make all the previous multiplayer maps free for the player base. The goal is to keep as many players playing as possible. The goal should be to keep everybody engaged and not split up the player base. Other companies have figured out how to do it, and still break the bank without charging 50 off the jump for future content that you might not even play when it comes out
Game looks piff, and I'm going to get it, but I call it how it is, and after what 3 years since Battlefield 4, shyt's changed.
Another solution would be for them to make the previous DLC map pack free once the new one is available. It's not perfect, but it's better than the bullshyt they are selling now. Who the fukk is buying individual map pack DLC besides idiots anyway?
Destiny does this and it's why the game is still popping online to this day. Whenever the new expansion/DLC drops, they make all the previous multiplayer maps free for the player base. The goal is to keep as many players playing as possible. The goal should be to keep everybody engaged and not split up the player base. Other companies have figured out how to do it, and still break the bank without charging 50 off the jump for future content that you might not even play when it comes out
Game looks piff, and I'm going to get it, but I call it how it is, and after what 3 years since Battlefield 4, shyt's changed.
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Hardline is the same as all other BF right? I thought COD is the only one where they boot you out the lobby if you don't have DLC maps?
Speaking of, Hardline and battlefront is a perfect example of why traditional season pass should be done away. How fast did he communities die for those games? I bought the pass for Hardline and that shyt was dead before the first map pack dropped. By the time the third one released I didn't even bother downloading it. Only when they started releasing them for free recently was I able to find populated lobbies to play. Same with TF. Game died before all the maps dropped. They made them free and the community came back. And now they are releasing maps and content for free for TF2
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Lack of content hurt both of those games more then anything else.Hardline had like 4 weapons per class can't have Battlefield in your title with that little content plus the lack of destruction terrible weapon balance at the beginning doomed it from the start
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The same I think
It's really common sense.
JackFrags been hip to how stupid this model is years ago.
Most other companies know what up too. Like I said, BF and COD seem to be the only games with this pay for maps shyt still going on. We've seen multiple big title multiplayer games that have done away with this and they each have found other ways to make money off of their games doing this.
Them, Overwatch, Evolve, Seige all following free maps with micros to cover cost. And those games aren't bringing in half the revenue from sales that BF or COD do. It's pure greed.