Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

[wizworld]

There’s a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Anyone that can’t see the difference between confidence + being humble (Lux) and arrogance (Cass) is lost in their delusion of what confidence is and looks like.

The reasons why Lux is loved vs why Cass is hated are clear as day to a properly socialized intellectual individual

That is a reasonable assumption but I have to disagree. Lux is wild delusional & arrogant in some ways. It's just that the vibe he gives off is positive and uplifting and that's what people remember.

When Covid was at it's peak he was running around Harlem with Akuma beads sweaty with no mask on. He really has some type of Golden child shyt going on but it works for him.

I would argue that the perception of Cassidy is changing because we see him actively trying to create opportunities for other people in the culture.

Mook is very easy to root against at the moment because he constantly gives the impression he is out for self.

If we are strictly talking socialization skills I agree with you. But I fully expect all rappers to be arrogant & delusional.

 

[Reptile]

Fonz about clean Lu up..

 

[Young Fab]

IF those words were replaced in your post, yes.
However, the words you chose were key in why it was invalid.

Because confidence is NOTHING like arrogance, that’s the point.

Fans don’t like arrogance, it’s a normal reaction as humans

If Cass was confident he would be received totally different.

Clear examples of confidence are Eazy Da Block
and Real Sikh

Fans LOVE them for how they carry themselves with confidence, if that ever changes they too will receive backlash.

That’s why I can’t take Tay Roc serious when he acts like fans RANDOMLY switched up on him, when in reality he became arrogant when he linked with Surf. It wasn’t a big conspiracy, he did it to himself

Then explain Hitman and Surf’s appeal

 

[Reptile]

Then explain Hitman and Surf’s appeal

LOL. Surf has a silver tongue. Hes very persuasive.

Hitman is casual friendly. Nothing much to it.

Them nikkas are ass though...

 

[lyrical professor]

Oh yeah that’s right y’all demand humility from these guys lol

I remember after cass beat hitman he was a little more humble than usual in his post battle interviews

pat stay was like “see cass that’s all we ever wanted from you “

The brc is so gay I swear to god lol

No we don't demand anything. Do you realize how difficult it is for battle rappers to admit they lost including Cass who your always cappin' for??. If its not their own ego and pride, its the 15 yes men in real life and 50k followers up and down their timeline.

 

[Reptile]

I much rather see JC vs The Saurus than JC vs Lux/VErb/Surf tbh. Thats been a dream match up of mine forever..

 

[superchoops]

Ave is EFB

 

[Ardamus]

There’s a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Anyone that can’t see the difference between confidence + being humble (Lux) and arrogance (Cass) is lost in their delusion of what confidence is and looks like.

The reasons why Lux is loved vs why Cass is hated are clear as day to a properly socialized intellectual individual

Yep. I know you guys argued different rappers being arrogant and confident but there's always been a difference.

That is a reasonable assumption but I have to disagree. Lux is wild delusional & arrogant in some ways. It's just that the vibe he gives off is positive and uplifting and that's what people remember.

When Covid was at it's peak he was running around Harlem with Akuma beads sweaty with no mask on. He really has some type of Golden child shyt going on but it works for him.

I would argue that the perception of Cassidy is changing because we see him actively trying to create opportunities for other people in the culture.

Mook is very easy to root against at the moment because he constantly gives the impression he is out for self.

If we are strictly talking socialization skills I agree with you. But I fully expect all rappers to be arrogant & delusional.

I suppose this for the entertainment value so you can laugh when they fukk up. I don't expect all that but hey, if thats what you want, all good.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

Then explain Hitman and Surf’s appeal

Surf = A1 shyt talker, Crip, went to jail, got that 5 times and classic moments / quotables / battles, URL class, makes good music

Hitman = One of the 3 headed monsters during the Midwest Movement, classic moments / quotables / battles, URL class, most viewed on URL, Wild N Out star, Blood, known for gettin into fights himself

Y’all can’t be serious being confused why fans like Surf and Hitman, COTDAMN

 

[MJ Truth]

No we don't demand anything. Do you realize how difficult it is for battle rappers to admit they lost including Cass who your always cappin' for??. If its not their own ego and pride, its the 15 yes men in real life and 50k followers up and down their timeline.

I mean, as a battler where your appeal is usually being known as a winner, what benefit do you even get out of admitting you lost?? A self aware loser is still a loser. A lot of it is just marketing.

 

[MJ Truth]

Surf = A1 shyt talker, Crip, went to jail, got that 5 times and classic moments / quotables / battles, URL class, makes good music

Hitman = One of the 3 headed monsters during the Midwest Movement, classic moments / quotables / battles, URL class, most viewed on URL, Wild N Out star, Blood, known for gettin into fights himself

Y’all can’t be serious being confused why fans like Surf and Hitman, COTDAMN

Are you going to act like Surf’s and Hitman’s brashness and (likely according to you) arrogance isn’t a big part of their appeal?

 

[ReasonableMatic]

Are you going to act like Surf’s and Hitman’s brashness and (likely according to you) arrogance isn’t a big part of their appeal?

Are you going to act like the key main factors I purposely mentioned to prove my point aren’t the crucial reasons why their character gets accepted by fans compared to Cassidy who has the bare minimum in comparison

Yeah, good luck with that

 

[MJ Truth]

Are you going to act like the key main factors I purposely mentioned to prove my point aren’t the crucial reasons why their character gets accepted by fans compared to Cassidy who has the bare minimum in comparison

Yeah, good luck with that

Cassidy is more popular than both though, I’m not sure what you’re getting at, unless it is towards my original point.

A lot of battle rap fans and battlers themselves have a crab type mentality, which would explain why confidence or arrogance would have so much effect. It’s not as though it’s just a battle rap thing; like you said, it’s a human thing, like jealousy.

 

[Reptile]

@ReasonableMatic Hey bighead

 

[Young Fab]

Surf = A1 shyt talker, Crip, went to jail, got that 5 times and classic moments / quotables / battles, URL class, makes good music

Hitman = One of the 3 headed monsters during the Midwest Movement, classic moments / quotables / battles, URL class, most viewed on URL, Wild N Out star, Blood, known for gettin into fights himself

Y’all can’t be serious being confused why fans like Surf and Hitman, COTDAMN

Well if they’re the two most popular battle rappers of the modern era then why do you think fans don’t like arrogance?

Based on the reasons you gave for fans liking Surf & Hitman arrogance is fine as long as you backin it up wit something.

Hell, fukk them 2 nikkas, the most famous battle rapper in the country’s named is fukkin CONCEITED and you say fans don’t like arrogance?

No, fans don’t like arrogance from somebody they feel is undeserving of having that attitude and that my friend is called delusion.

Fans don’t dislike arrogant mfs, they dislike delusional mfs.