Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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Watching all this basketball tonight I think I finally figured it out. The problem with battle rap (as I've always said) is that there are no winners or losers. So narratives run wild & unchallenged.

A loss or debatable battle from someone's favorite rapper instantly becomes "but battler x did xyz." I think I displayed this well in the Cal v. Lux thread. The narrative always outshines the actual bars and that is a problem.

This is precisely why every battle should have an official winner or loser regardless of if internet fans like it or not.
 

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Watching all this basketball tonight I think I finally figured it out. The problem with battle rap (as I've always said) is that there are no winners or losers. So narratives run wild & unchallenged.

A loss or debatable battle from someone's favorite rapper instantly becomes "but battler x did xyz." I think I displayed this well in the Cal v. Lux thread. The narrative always outshines the actual bars and that is a problem.

This is precisely why every battle should have an official winner or loser regardless of if internet fans like it or not.

There will never be an official winner. See (Swave vs Danny)
Only clear wins are obvious bodies
 

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battle was trash. dont even care about who won tbh

I thought it was pretty solid. Joey isn't fit to battle rap, though. Too quiet in his delivery and not all out there with his stage performance. Bars wise, he knew he had way harder stuff but it wasn't fit for battle rap either. He had dope lines from beginning to end almost but if it wasn't a big punchline then people weren't caring. idk.

I tried to watch the Cass/Diz battle but those nikkas are annoying.
 

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Tink is actually one of the few that makes sense for Bdot. If BDot's point is to spread his message, wouldn't Tink be the perfect guy?

There is a reason Tink wants to battle both the saga & bdot. His demonic approach makes those battles interesting and I'm sure he has angles in his head already on how he wants to approach them.

They all 3 should battle each other eventually.

I think BDot should really battle Saga for just overall talking greasy. The message and all is cool in terms of what the homie BDot was saying but Saga was on some extra smug shyt in that interview.

Now BDot and Tink would be dope because there's an angle of black psychology that I feel BDot could break down.

But overall, I know he wanted to battle Saga more so tho. Until he talked crazy in that interview.
 

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Watching all this basketball tonight I think I finally figured it out. The problem with battle rap (as I've always said) is that there are no winners or losers. So narratives run wild & unchallenged.

A loss or debatable battle from someone's favorite rapper instantly becomes "but battler x did xyz." I think I displayed this well in the Cal v. Lux thread. The narrative always outshines the actual bars and that is a problem.

This is precisely why every battle should have an official winner or loser regardless of if internet fans like it or not.

Low key, Grind Time, KOTD, and Don't Flop used to judge battles all the time around the mid 2000s. SMACK/URL? Maybe a few times but who knows they probably want to avoid nikkas getting pissed or saying they got robbed when the battle is judged (example: Aye Verb vs. T-Rex for that $10k Diddy put up). They should do it where to there is just extra money going to the winner which I think KOTD does with the chain.
 

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Watching all this basketball tonight I think I finally figured it out. The problem with battle rap (as I've always said) is that there are no winners or losers. So narratives run wild & unchallenged.

A loss or debatable battle from someone's favorite rapper instantly becomes "but battler x did xyz." I think I displayed this well in the Cal v. Lux thread. The narrative always outshines the actual bars and that is a problem.

This is precisely why every battle should have an official winner or loser regardless of if internet fans like it or not.

You didn't display shyt in the Lux/Cal thread. You asked a bunch of pointed questions to like one dude who posted the bars of the guy he thought won. You provided nothing to that thread aside from the OP.

Yet when I visit and read it, I see a handful of people discussing the round in question and giving their opinion with reasoning. Not a bunch of people talking about a "narrative."

As for battles having winners and losers -- I think the water is muddy now. If everything switched tonight to a judged outcome system, we'd just fight with each other on forums, groups, and comments about who got robbed or who really won. The wins and losses would do nothing to sell tickets, and the battlers would most likely disavow and show no respect for the judging. This is all assuming there's no bread on the line.
 

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Hollow still won, Joe was rapping like an even more boring zzzcel.
I could be grading Joe on a curve because lets be real. Hollow was suppose to murder him and failed :manny:
That's really all I took from the battle. Hollow had a layup and basically airballed it. That was really the best look for battle rap overall and for Hollow in particular, and the only person who took advantage of that night was Mook. shyt was shameful.
 

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Watching all this basketball tonight I think I finally figured it out. The problem with battle rap (as I've always said) is that there are no winners or losers. So narratives run wild & unchallenged.

A loss or debatable battle from someone's favorite rapper instantly becomes "but battler x did xyz." I think I displayed this well in the Cal v. Lux thread. The narrative always outshines the actual bars and that is a problem.

This is precisely why every battle should have an official winner or loser regardless of if internet fans like it or not.
LOL, you showed nothing in that Lux-Cal thread other than your own cowardly nature and fear to pick a winner yourself.
 

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You didn't display shyt in the Lux/Cal thread. You asked a bunch of pointed questions to like one dude who posted the bars of the guy he thought won. You provided nothing to that thread aside from the OP.

Yet when I visit and read it, I see a handful of people discussing the round in question and giving their opinion with reasoning. Not a bunch of people talking about a "narrative."

As for battles having winners and losers -- I think the water is muddy now. If everything switched tonight to a judged outcome system, we'd just fight with each other on forums, groups, and comments about who got robbed or who really won. The wins and losses would do nothing to sell tickets, and the battlers would most likely disavow and show no respect for the judging. This is all assuming there's no bread on the line.
Yet you skipped over the part where I asked specific questions to keep the conversation about the bars and bars only.
 
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