Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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Mickey Factz also said Floyd Mayweather is starting a battle league this year too.

shyt is gonna be interesting for URL. This is their first real comp. The thing they have over both is they actually have brand recognition and also know how to run a league successfully. Money and connections makes you a threat to URL but you need more than that.

money and connections don't mean jack shyt, we've seen billionaires try to run a league and crash and burn. Battlers will just use them for a check and then bounce
 

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money and connections don't mean jack shyt, we've seen billionaires try to run a league and crash and burn. Battlers will just use them for a check and then bounce
I will say this, having money and connects is the bare minimum to compete with URL. Ultimately, it's very important. It's why RBE can only get so far and why KOTD burned out

To run a battle rap league you need long money and wealthy investors willing to take loses for a few years before turning a profit.
 

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I will say this, having money and connects is the bare minimum to compete with URL. Ultimately, it's very important. It's why RBE can only get so far and why KOTD burned out

To run a battle rap league you need long money and wealthy investors willing to take loses for a few years before turning a profit.

Yeah, thinking about it more I guess the other celebs/rich people thought they could get a quick buck or like get to the top fast. Some were even delusional enough to think that they could change the game and all that. A real competitor to URL has to be willing to get it out of the mud
 

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Some had money, but no passion. Some had the passion, but no connections. Some had the money and the passion but no respect in the industry. Remy is the perfect storm and has the right combination of attributes to compete with SMACK. Plus she's doing it as a woman during the women-empowerment era. I think she'll be a legitimate player in battle rap.
 

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Some had money, but no passion. Some had the passion, but no connections. Some had the money and the passion but no respect in the industry. Remy is the perfect storm and has the right combination of attributes to compete with SMACK. Plus she's doing it as a woman during the women-empowerment era. I think she'll be a legitimate player in battle rap.
Right, I didnt think she had the passion at first, but saw a vid of her battling someone like 10-15 years ago. So she does like the culture :ehh:
 

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Mickey Factz also said Floyd Mayweather is starting a battle league this year too.

shyt is gonna be interesting for URL. This is their first real comp. The thing they have over both is they actually have brand recognition and also know how to run a league successfully. Money and connections makes you a threat to URL but you need more than that.


To be a league owner, you have to be passionate about battle rap. It’s not about the money, because the money isn’t there. If Floyd is not passionate about battle rap, he’s definitely not a threat. If Floyd isn’t profiting he shuts it down, like any businessman would.

I think Remy is more passionate about battle rap more than any other celebrity that has tried to run a league. However, it’s kind of hard to view her as a threat when she still hasn’t quite figured out how to make money. URL and RBE have after years of trial and error.

The URL isn’t even trying, They’re just coasting. I wish there was a legit competitor to push them.
 

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I will say this, having money and connects is the bare minimum to compete with URL. Ultimately, it's very important. It's why RBE can only get so far and why KOTD burned out

To run a battle rap league you need long money and wealthy investors willing to take loses for a few years before turning a profit.

I never viewed KOTD and URL as competition. I’m sure they competed in their own way, but KOTD is in a completely different lane that just isn’t conducive to making money. The beauty of battle rap is that you gotta cater to the black audience to be successful.
 

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To be a league owner, you have to be passionate about battle rap. It’s not about the money, because the money isn’t there. If Floyd is not passionate about battle rap, he’s definitely not a threat. If Floyd isn’t profiting he shuts it down, like any businessman would.

I think Remy is more passionate about battle rap more than any other celebrity that has tried to run a league. However, it’s kind of hard to view her as a threat when she still hasn’t quite figured out how to make money. URL and RBE have after years of trial and error.

The URL isn’t even trying, They’re just coasting. I wish there was a legit competitor to push them.
Money definitely matters because in order to throw a bunch of events, you have to be willing to take a loss. You're more than likely going to be losing money for years entering into any business. A business like battle rap, one thing you have to do is constantly throw events. At least 5 events a year (bare minimum) to even be in the game as a serious league. That takes serious chicken to do.

I do agree the passion has to be there, along with the money, connections and also the understanding of how battle rap works. A lot of leagues had 1 or even 2 of the ingredients but never all four except URL.

I think Remy has a better chance to succeed than Floyd, because like you said, she has a passion, and she has some know how of what goes into throwing an event. The thing is, is she willing to go all in like Smack has, and make her entire brand battle rap? I think it remains to be seen, but it's going to take something like that to get her where she wants to be. Remy has a large social media following mostly from Love and Hip Hop. Her base is probably like 85% women. Not sure how it'll work if she tries to turn her whole page into mostly battle rap content.

I have no clue how passionate Floyd is about battle rap, I have a feeling his execution is going to be terrible. He has the Zeus network (I believe he is partial owner) and I know they're always looking for content, so I can see him using as a way to draw more eyes to his network and get subscribers.
 

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Some had money, but no passion. Some had the passion, but no connections. Some had the money and the passion but no respect in the industry. Remy is the perfect storm and has the right combination of attributes to compete with SMACK. Plus she's doing it as a woman during the women-empowerment era. I think she'll be a legitimate player in battle rap.
Yeah Remy could be a legit threat because of all you mentioned above, and also because like the homie @RAW_SPK said, she's petty. lol. That alone could make her keep going.
 

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Yeah Remy could be a legit threat because of all you mentioned above, and also because like the homie @RAW_SPK said, she's petty. lol. That alone could make her keep going.
Agreed. Remy won’t take a L without a fight.

Speaking of the homie @RAW_SPK , how that SIRE battle go breh? :obama:
1rd BODYBAG I suppose :ufdup:
 

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I think remy needs to team with arp. Be the smack white and Beasley of the new era of battle rap. They both can bring each other what the other is missing. Smack better tighten up.
 

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Money definitely matters because in order to throw a bunch of events, you have to be willing to take a loss. You're more than likely going to be losing money for years entering into any business. A business like battle rap, one thing you have to do is constantly throw events. At least 5 events a year (bare minimum) to even be in the game as a serious league. That takes serious chicken to do.

I do agree the passion has to be there, along with the money, connections and also the understanding of how battle rap works. A lot of leagues had 1 or even 2 of the ingredients but never all four except URL.

I think Remy has a better chance to succeed than Floyd, because like you said, she has a passion, and she has some know how of what goes into throwing an event. The thing is, is she willing to go all in like Smack has, and make her entire brand battle rap? I think it remains to be seen, but it's going to take something like that to get her where she wants to be. Remy has a large social media following mostly from Love and Hip Hop. Her base is probably like 85% women. Not sure how it'll work if she tries to turn her whole page into mostly battle rap content.

I have no clue how passionate Floyd is about battle rap, I have a feeling his execution is going to be terrible. He has the Zeus network (I believe he is partial owner) and I know they're always looking for content, so I can see him using as a way to draw more eyes to his network and get subscribers.

At the end of the day, if Remy, Floyd, or whoever’s plan is just to use and recycle the top tiers, they’ve already lost imo. Everyone has damn near already battled each other, and there’s just not a lot of big battles out there.

You have to introduce and brand your own talent. That is the key to battle rap. If there’s not a commitment to discovering and developing new talent, then you’re not competing with the URL.

This is where they fukk up. They want to come in and make a big splash instead of building from the ground up and looking for homegrown talent.

I think there’s a way to introduce new talent and make a splash though. A reality tv show is the perfect vehicle, and a way to expedite the exposure of new talent. I think Hitman had a good idea with bags & bodies but it was poorly promoted and no one watched it .

Now if Remy were to do some shyt like that, where she’s building a league using reality tv as her pg system, then the url would need to be concerned. That’s basically what the ufc did with the ultimate fighter.
 
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