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The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread
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Kinda insulted you have to ask if I've seen Donner's superman breh:brehyourejoking:
I'd describe him as a boy scout and all that entails: He's a good dude, always trying and wanting to do the right thing and heroic. That's it. But charismatic isn't it. Because he smiles and winks that means he's got charisma? Well I guess Spike's got charisma too:soomad:
I don't know if he was charismatic, per se, but Christopher Reeve as Clark and Superman, had that gravitas that commanded your attention on screen.
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Exactly people watch a 3 minute trailer and they got their pitchforks ready. All that tells me is they didn't like things to begin with before they even watched it.
NobodyReally
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With the Doomsday being confirmed as the villain in this movie, everybody who hated "Man of Steel" either gonna hate this movie too OR they gonna be coppin' all the types of pleas why they like this movie, but hated MoS.
Are you actually saying that it's not possible that Snyder learned from his mistakes in MoS and improved this film? Or that they are, in fact, two different movies and therefore may have different mistakes and strengths? I'm not following your logic right now. MoS had its moments, but overall, it wasn't a very good film. That doesn't mean BvS is destined to be bad though, and I'm willing to have an open mind and support it if its good.
Donner captured the awe-inspiring presence that is Superman perfectly. Reeves wasn't a ultra-cut, muscular beast. He was fit, tall, and had a good frame to match his charisma and charm. I guess it was easy for both.
Cavil has a lot of that, but he's not being allowed to lead any of his scenes when it's his turn to act. The shaky-cam aspect does nothing to help that, and let's not forget he's going against his natural accent for the role. He was straight gold in Man From UNCLE, and it's a shame MOS didn't find a way to capture his strengths.
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Kill Dat Noize
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let me ask you this, HAD they gave us a lex based on the animated series... would you be saying "man i really wish they would have done more to reinvent the character..." or would you be gassed like the rest of us.
im talking a lex that oozes with swag and is played by someone major.
that's what charisma is.
They're not contingent upon each other. You can be charismatic and not not be able to do it on camera. Ryan Renolds? Channing Tatum, Colin Ferrell are charismatic personalities with horrible screen presence.
Clark isn't a charismatic character, he's dull, he has no charm, clumsy, nothing special or intimidating, nothing that would appeal to anyone, as a character he's overlooked among everyone. Yet Reeve still made you pay attention, even against the full-of-life Margot Kidder. That's why I said "per se".
Looking back at Lex Luthor in live action through the years:
Lyle Talbot in Superman vs Atom Man
Gene Hackman in Superman
Scott James Wells in Superboy TV Show
Sherman Howard in Superboy TV Show
John Shea in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
Michael Rosenbaum in Smallville
Kevin Spacey in Superman Returns
Lyle Talbot in Superman vs Atom Man
Gene Hackman in Superman
Scott James Wells in Superboy TV Show
Sherman Howard in Superboy TV Show
John Shea in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
Michael Rosenbaum in Smallville
Kevin Spacey in Superman Returns
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but as superman he is the opposite of all those things. clark is just the act he puts on for everybody, the audience could see he is trolling. that's why it's funny.
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Sure, it's alright to be crazy hyped over 3 minutes of footage but it's unthinkable that people can be disappointed by it.
We've talked about this in past threads. A lot of the critics & moviegoers who shytted on "Man of Steel", didn't like the movie simply because they didn't care for a darker Superman story & were appalled by all the destruction that was going on in metropolis in the movie. They really wanted more of a flabbynsick 70's Christopher Reeves Superman-type movie.
So like I said with Doomsday being confirmed as the villain in this movie, most of the folks who hated "Man of Steel" either gonna hate this movie too OR if they do like this movie I expect them to be coppin' all types of pleas & makin excuses why they like this movie but hated MoS such as "this isn't a Superman movie, it's a team-up movie".
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That line in your post about "Snyder learned from his mistakes in MoS and improved this film" sounds like a pre-prepared copped plea.
NobodyReally
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We've talked about this in past threads. A lot of the critics & moviegoers who shytted on "Man of Steel", didn't like the movie simply because they didn't care for a darker Superman story & were appalled by all the destruction that was going on in metropolis in the movie. They really wanted more of a flabbynsick 70's Christopher Reeves Superman-type movie.
So like I said with Doomsday being confirmed as the villain in this movie, most of the folks who hated "Man of Steel" either gonna hate this movie too OR if they do like this movie I expect them to be coppin' all types of pleas & makin excuses why they like this movie but hated MoS such as "this isn't a Superman movie, it's a team-up movie".
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Contrary to what DC fanboys and MoS stans can't accept, there are actually those of us out here who don't have a stake in the DC/Marvel beef. We are fans of comic book movies. Well-made movies. I didn't mind the darker tone of MoS, but it didn't feel like a Superman film. Not because it wasn't campy and bright, but because of some of the inane decisions made by the writers, including Clark's dad's decision to sacrifice his life over a fukking dog, the way he berated his son for saving a schoolbus full of kids, Clark's passive-aggressive show of anger towards the trucker who tried to pick a fight with him, the entire Lois character and her knowledge of his alien origins, the complete and utter disregard of Superman for all of the thousands of lives he sacrificed in his epic building crushing fight scenes. Like I said, it had its moments. I actually LOVED the darkest scene in the movie, which was when Zod transmitted his message to earth. That was awesome. But overall, MoS just didn't work for some of us and it had nothing to do with nostalgia or Marvel.