The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread

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nikka....This is hot. Where did u find this?

 

[Jello Biafra]

the arguments over the characterization of superman in MOS are atleast legit because this is the character that will be going into BVS

the film was polarizing. if you objectively want to look at the aggregation of reviews, i dont know why some are taking it as blasphemy that some didnt like it

and on the bold. if only others felt that way, instead of making the illogical leap that jokes = for kids , claiming that the public has grown tired of the formula when the latest film made over a billion dollars, etc, but i digress...


it sounds like yall like this version of superman because of his circumstance rather than the actual character but willing to agree to disagree. MOS superman didnt entertain or intrigue me

See I have no issues with people not liking MOS whether it is due to valid criticisms or just because they have a hard-on for the Donner version and refuse to accept any other version.
My issue is why those people feel the need to re-litigate all of their issues over and over again. Nothing that anyone critical of MOS is saying in this thread is new at all. So why the fixation with hammering home the same argument?
I thought Iron Man 2 was a messy pile of crap but I didn't let that stop me from seeing Iron Man 3 (which turned out to be an even worse film).
Thor was mediocre as fukk but I didn't carry on complaining about it for years between its release and the release of Thor 2 (which turned out to be an even worse film).
I could go in on Spider Man, X-Men and other comic book movies that I really didn't like but what is the point? No one will change their opinions and after 2 years and some change the almost pathological need to broadcast the same tired anti-MOS arguments just comes off as dikkish.

 

[Jello Biafra]

okay so again if superman starts the movie that way and ends the movie that way then WHERE was the transformation? sounds to me like he wanted to be superman from the very start. in what way does this character struggle with this? we never see it.

i am all for new interpretations of the myth so long as it stays true to the character. ask @MartyMcFly how he would feel if they made a spiderman movie where he doesn't crack jokes and doesn't wanna stick it to mary jane. all that swag and confidence... gone. all that charisma and personality... gone. would you still feel like you're watching spiderman?

There was a whole thing about him revealing himself that was a major part of the movie. The struggle in that instance was that he had his dad's voice constantly telling him that he had to keep his powers a secret. He wanted to "be Superman" but he also was doing what his dad told him about keeping his abilities secret. So he was basically a drifter who couldn't make any lasting relationships out of fear of being discovered.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

There was a whole thing about him revealing himself that was a major part of the movie. The struggle in that instance was that he had his dad's voice constantly telling him that he had to keep his powers a secret. He wanted to "be Superman" but he also was doing what his dad told him about keeping his abilities secret. So he was basically a drifter who couldn't make any lasting relationships out of fear of being discovered.

doesn't really sound like he took his father's words to heart though does it? he is seen using his powers right in the open on more than one occasion. he saves all those people on the oil rig and then he saves lois on the spaceship. doesn't look like he's really struggles with it either. in fact this movie firmly establishes early on that clark will dive head first into any situation without hesitation if it means saving somebody. sounds like pa kent was the most negative influence he had in his entire life and kept him from being who he really wanted to be all along. once russell crowe tells him to don the suit and cape, again he does it without hesitation.

the character doesn't really make any kind of sacrifice.

 

[MartyMcFly]

So batman v superman law and order everybody.

 

[Jello Biafra]

doesn't really sound like he took his father's words to heart though does it? he is seen using his powers right in the open on more than one occasion. he saves all those people on the oil rig and then he saves lois on the spaceship. doesn't look like he's really struggles with it either. in fact this movie firmly establishes early on that clark will dive head first into any situation without hesitation if it means saving somebody. sounds like pa kent was the most negative influence he had in his entire life and kept him from being who he really wanted to be all along. once russell crowe tells him to don the suit and cape, again he does it without hesitation.

the character doesn't really make any kind of sacrifice.

Bruh, you didn't like MOS, I did. I am really not going to continue going around and around with you about a difference in opinion because I am not going to change my mind and I really don't care if you change yours.
If you want to discuss BvS then I am all in but I am finished with this line of discussion because it serves no purpose at all.

 

[Greenstrings]

See I have no issues with people not liking MOS whether it is due to valid criticisms or just because they have a hard-on for the Donner version and refuse to accept any other version.
My issue is why those people feel the need to re-litigate all of their issues over and over again. Nothing that anyone critical of MOS is saying in this thread is new at all. So why the fixation with hammering home the same argument?
I thought Iron Man 2 was a messy pile of crap but I didn't let that stop me from seeing Iron Man 3 (which turned out to be an even worse film).
Thor was mediocre as fukk but I didn't carry on complaining about it for years between its release and the release of Thor 2 (which turned out to be an even worse film).
I could go in on Spider Man, X-Men and other comic book movies that I really didn't like but what is the point? No one will change their opinions and after 2 years and some change the almost pathological need to broadcast the same tired anti-MOS arguments just comes off as dikkish.

It's actually pretty simple and you'd see it if you weren't so hung up on being defensive.

MoS's failures and successes are far more interesting than those of the Marvel movies you mentioned. They raise more questions, they're more polarizing and as such they're worth picking apart.

I largely agree with your assessments of those Marvel movies but they're widely judged according to their ability to translate the source material to the MCU's established formula. No Marvel movie has experienced the same scrutiny because nobody at the time understood the scale of what would be built on top of the first Iron Man movie and now we know exactly what to expect when we go to these movies.

People argue plot points in movies they care about decades after the fact. Interpreting that as dikkish in this case suggests that you feel personally affronted, which stops you from giving the movie credit for the discourse it's generating.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Bruh, you didn't like MOS, I did. I am really not going to continue going around and around with you about a difference in opinion because I am not going to change my mind and I really don't care if you change yours.
If you want to discuss BvS then I am all in but I am finished with this line of discussion because it serves no purpose at all.

fine, let me say what i liked about the BVS trailer:

- looks like batman got his balls back.
- looks like this will be a much better story than MOS
- wonder woman looks pretty cool (i'm hoping they don't ignore the lasso though)
- all in all i just thought it was a powerful trailer. hard not to be given the subject material. these are the 2 icons.

what i'm still worried about:

- zach snyder
- some of the CGI shots still look like a video game.
- eisenberg looks awful
- superman comes off weird again.

 

[TheGodling]

You have the 5th most post (125) in a thread more than half of which discussing a movie you apparently hate, with points that are nonsensical at best no matter how many time you repeat them. That sir is called an obsession

Poster of the year nominee with 2 votes and god knows who even nominated you in the first place that is an even bigger joke to the rest of the film room, and unlike Ed I don't hate you I just find your hypocrisy when judging anything D.C. or Nolan related laughable

I hate MoS with a passion, that's different from an obsession.

There's no hypocrisy because it's not my fault you guys somehow just can't believe that someone would hate MoS but be fine with a bunch of Marvel movies so "there must be some fanboy agenda at work", when the fact of the matter is there are enough Marvel movies I don't particularly like or care for, but only one I think truly terrible enough to shyt on it (The Incredible Hulk) and that one happened like 7 years ago (and I don't nearly care as much about the Hulk as I care about Supes).

And I've always wondered who the fukk those two votes were from.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

nikka....This is hot. Where did u find this?

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[Jello Biafra]

It's actually pretty simple and you'd see it if you weren't so hung up on being defensive.

MoS's failures and successes are far more interesting than those of the Marvel movies you mentioned. They raise more questions, they're more polarizing and as such they're worth picking apart.

I largely agree with your assessments of those Marvel movies but they're widely judged according to their ability to translate the source material to the MCU's established formula. No Marvel movie has experienced the same scrutiny because nobody at the time understood the scale of what would be built on top of the first Iron Man movie and now we know exactly what to expect when we go to these movies.

People argue plot points in movies they care about decades after the fact. Interpreting that as dikkish in this case suggests that you feel personally affronted, which stops you from giving the movie credit for the discourse it's generating.

You are mistaking boredom with defensiveness. Maybe you find rehashing the exact same shyt (sometimes verbatim) in post after post for years but that is not my idea of a fun way to pass time.
And the dikkishness doesn't come from just being critical...the dikkishness comes when the person being dikkish seems intent on trying to either change someone else's opposing opinion or just discount it out of hand.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

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I think we all agree, the MCU is awesome. Based off the Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad trailers, the future of the MCU (Momoa Cinematic Universe) looks awesome.

Meanwhile the MCU (Mara Cinematic Universe) looks lackluster which is ashame because Fox has improved the MCU (Mutant Cinematic Universe) with it's past few years but the future of the MCU (Mara Cinematic Universe) looks as disappointing as the MCU (MutantNuinjaTurtles Cinematic Universe).

Hopefully one day we will see Hellboy 3 which will finish the MCU (Mingola Cinematic Universe). We all can agree though we will never see the MCU (MacFarlane Cinematic Universe) kick off with that Spawn movie he's planning for years.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

why do y'all always get so hurt in these threads? it's a movie you aren't forced to watch/talk about

 

[Won Won]

 

[Jello Biafra]

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I think we all agree, the MCU is awesome. Based off the Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad trailers, the future of the MCU (Momoa Cinematic Universe) looks awesome.

Meanwhile the MCU (Mara Cinematic Universe) looks lackluster which is ashame because Fox has improved the MCU (Mutant Cinematic Universe) with it's past few years but the future of the MCU (Mara Cinematic Universe) looks as disappointing as the MCU (MutantNuinjaTurtles Cinematic Universe).

Hopefully one day we will see Hellboy 3 which will finish the MCU (Mingola Cinematic Universe). We all can agree though we will never see the MCU (MacFarlane Cinematic Universe) kick off with that Spawn movie he's planning for years.

So many MCU's.