The OFFICIAL "Arrow" Season 3 DISCUSSION Thread

[satam55]

I wonder if the less progressive nerds are going to freak out over Ted Grant/Wildcat being Cuban?

Is it ok for me to freakout because he is too young

Same here. It's just to give Laurel a love interest aside from Oliver, I guess.

I remember the actor guest-starring on a episode of the last season of "90210". Dude could pass for being white (or at least half-white). It's probably not gonna be that big a deal.

 

[ORDER_66]

Honestly, for me, it's mostly how obnoxious the Olicity fans are that has caused people to overtly hate the pairing/ship. This explanation is in no way meant to be rude towards, but I do have a tendency to phrase things differently than I intend to, so apologies in advance.

Here's a list of some of the things that have turned a lot of people off:

The Twitter rampage. All in all, the big Olicity movement has been done by a couple thousand posters who constantly post the #olicity tag on everything. Everybody gets that Olicity is a fan favorite ship. Just because it consumes everything about why they watch the show, doesn't mean they have to advertise it on everything. Stephen Amell could Tweet: "Working in the foundry today and it's freezing"@amellywood. And there would be hundreds of tweets later saying "Huddle up with Emily, she'll keep you warm #olicity" or "What's the foundry? Does that mean #olicity?" For most of the fans who watch the show and don't care about who ends up with who, it's a major turn off when all they see are people propping up a ship that hasn't happened yet.

Which leads us into the Facebook assault. Stephen Amell is an amazing actor. While he probably won't be winning an Oscar or Academy award anytime soon, the level of interaction he has with fans is amazing and unparalleled. He shares so much of his life and work with people that fans have truly fallen in love with him. Unfortunately, there's about 20 people who literally post the same photo to every comment, asking for Olicity. And another 10-15 fans who will go on there and just type #olicity in the comments. To every post. Whether it's a training video, Q&A, or just a status update. Which, again, is a major turn off for people who are watching the show to see Green Arrow.

For a lot of people, having it shoved into our faces constantly like that, is enough to push fans away from the pairing and the show. Even though they like Felicity, it can turn people cynical towards the character and the ship.

There's also the fact, that in the comics Black Canary and Green Arrow get married and Felicity Smoak marries Ed Raymond, the father of Ronnie Raymond, who's half of Firestorm (and being played by Robbie Amell this fall on Flash). Nobody wants the show to follow the comics verbatim, but there are quite a few fans who want them to stick to key points of the comics (who marries who, for example). (For the record, I personally don't care if Oliver gets married in Arrow)

Now let's get into the truly juicy stuff.

There are three kinds of fans who like the pairing: The ones who just think they would be cute together, the ones who think they should be together because of "x" reason (the shipper) and the ones who have dedicated themselves to force it to happen (the hardcore shipper).

The first two aren't that bad. I don't have a problem, personally, with people who like olicity in general. It's the third kind that has destroyed peoples perceptions of olicity.

The ones who stampede Twitter and Facebook with #Olicity and demanding that Oliver get together Felicity. There also the ones who cry foul whenever Stephen Amell posts a picture on facebook or twitter with a cast member who isn't Emily Rickard.

The ones that posts hatred towards the cast members because they're interfering with Oliver being Felicity. If you spy on those lunatics, you'll see that whenever Stephen or the Producers posts something about Felicity, it's all kittens and rainbows. If the producers post something that might interfere with their ship (Ray Palmer or Laurel becoming BC for example), it's all filled with hatred and demanding that the producers/Stephen Amell change it to make it focus on Felicity. Stephen recently posted a picture of him and Katie together that Paul Blackthorne took of them. The comments ranged from, "What a nice picture. Paul did a good job" to "This picture is terrible, why do you have Katie there instead of Emily? It should be Emily, take it down. #Olicity"

One thing that most of them agree on is that they hate Laurel/Katie Cassidy. Katie Cassidy is the most abused actress on that show. The amount of hate that spews from that dark corner of the fandom is absurd. They have morphed their perception to going from hating her because she and Oliver are close, to hating her because she's done x, y and z. Pick any minor thing that Laurel/Katie has done and they've called for her to be killed off or written out. They've even threatened Katie, personally not the character, demanding that she quit the show so olicity could happen.

And it's not just Laurel that they hate. When Oliver and Sara were together, the same thing happened to Caity Lotz. Same thing with Helena. Hell, I'm sure if Oliver and Diggle developed a romance, they'd even hate Diggle/David Ramsay, who's the Firstmate of their ship.

Which brings me to my final item on the list. Their Grand Delusion. Tumblr is a cesspool of fan fiction, which is fine and dandy because that's what it's for, fan fiction. The problem is, a few folks over there have taken to making memes about the show, portraying olicity moments that didn't actually happen. Scenes spliced together to tell a story. Actors with quotes over their head that were never said in the show. Mostly harmless stuff that doesn't matter. Except when you get people who don't actually watch the show and merely observe to see the Oliver/Felicity pairing. Then these fan fiction memes and stories become the real thing. All of a sudden, the entire show is nothing more than the Smoak and Arrow show. All of the other characters exist to promote this romance. Diggle is Firstmate, who is their chief shipper. Amell is the captain of the ship because everything he does and says suddenly points to olicity. Laurel is evil because she takes Oliver away from Felicity. I could go on, but I won't.

These things don't stay on tumblr though, they migrate to other media. They honestly believe that the fan fiction they saw there is what actually happened and they come on to other sites promoting it and then wonder why it is that people don't see what they see.

A rather lengthy post to answer a relatively short question, but it's a complicated question that deserved more than, "Olicity is bad, mmkay." And there's more that I could expand upon, but I won't. There's a lot of people on this board who like Felicity but hate olicity. And I'm sure most of them will agree with what I said, but obviously I don't speak for everyone. And I'm sure there will be some from the olicity crowd here that will say "nah-uh, it's not like that". But it is.

In conclusion, it's not so much that people don't like Oliver and Felicity, it's that they don't like the fans of the ship, and don't want to see it on the show.

 

[satam55]

Arrow: Scoop on Brandon Routh's role in season 3 from TVLine's Matt Webb Mitovich

Here's some scoop on Arrow from this week's (Posted on 7/28/14) Matt's Inside Line column.

Any new info on Arrow’s Ray Palmer would be appreciated! –Rida
Hmm, I do like to be appreciated. Playing the Arrow newcomer, onetime Superman Brandon Routh is (like onetime Lois Lane Teri Hatcher) “spectacular,” EP Marc Guggenheim tells TVLine. “He has exceeded everyone’s wildest expectations. And what’s fun about the way Brandon interacts with everyone is we wanted someone who would offer a bit of what Grant Gustin did — someone who’s a little more on Felicity’s end of the spectrum in terms of color, and at the same time is very different from Grant. And Brandon, he’s just this change agent that shakes up everybody.” That said, a guy’s gotta have his secrets. “You’re going to see that there’s a lot going on with him,” Guggenheim hints. “He’s not what he initially appears to be.”

http://tvline.com/2014/07/28/ncis-season-12-ducky-origin-story-spoilers/

 

[satam55]

Arrow: Oliver related scoop on season 3 from TVGuide's Natalie Abrams

Here's some scoop on Arrow from TVGuide's Natalie Abrams' Mega Buzz column, which was posted on 7/29/14.

Thank you so much for all the Arrow scoop lately! Any more tidbits lying around?
Oliver's list is gone! Stephen Amell revealed to me that when Arrow returns for Season 3, Ollie will be busy picking off all the major crime bosses, whose names are now kept neatly organized on a board in his lair. That could problematic when Ray Palmer (Brandon Routh) comes into the picture. "We both bid for Queen Consolidated in the season premiere," Amell says. "Spoiler alert: He gets it."

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Once-Sons-Greys-Spoilers-1085057.aspx

 

[Regine Hunter]

Barrowman got a handful

 

[prophecypro]

Barrowman got a handful

He can get away with that since that aint the handful that he's into....

 

[prophecypro]

Honestly, for me, it's mostly how obnoxious the Olicity fans are that has caused people to overtly hate the pairing/ship. This explanation is in no way meant to be rude towards, but I do have a tendency to phrase things differently than I intend to, so apologies in advance.

Here's a list of some of the things that have turned a lot of people off:

The Twitter rampage. All in all, the big Olicity movement has been done by a couple thousand posters who constantly post the #olicity tag on everything. Everybody gets that Olicity is a fan favorite ship. Just because it consumes everything about why they watch the show, doesn't mean they have to advertise it on everything. Stephen Amell could Tweet: "Working in the foundry today and it's freezing"@amellywood. And there would be hundreds of tweets later saying "Huddle up with Emily, she'll keep you warm #olicity" or "What's the foundry? Does that mean #olicity?" For most of the fans who watch the show and don't care about who ends up with who, it's a major turn off when all they see are people propping up a ship that hasn't happened yet.

Which leads us into the Facebook assault. Stephen Amell is an amazing actor. While he probably won't be winning an Oscar or Academy award anytime soon, the level of interaction he has with fans is amazing and unparalleled. He shares so much of his life and work with people that fans have truly fallen in love with him. Unfortunately, there's about 20 people who literally post the same photo to every comment, asking for Olicity. And another 10-15 fans who will go on there and just type #olicity in the comments. To every post. Whether it's a training video, Q&A, or just a status update. Which, again, is a major turn off for people who are watching the show to see Green Arrow.

For a lot of people, having it shoved into our faces constantly like that, is enough to push fans away from the pairing and the show. Even though they like Felicity, it can turn people cynical towards the character and the ship.

There's also the fact, that in the comics Black Canary and Green Arrow get married and Felicity Smoak marries Ed Raymond, the father of Ronnie Raymond, who's half of Firestorm (and being played by Robbie Amell this fall on Flash). Nobody wants the show to follow the comics verbatim, but there are quite a few fans who want them to stick to key points of the comics (who marries who, for example). (For the record, I personally don't care if Oliver gets married in Arrow)

Now let's get into the truly juicy stuff.

There are three kinds of fans who like the pairing: The ones who just think they would be cute together, the ones who think they should be together because of "x" reason (the shipper) and the ones who have dedicated themselves to force it to happen (the hardcore shipper).

The first two aren't that bad. I don't have a problem, personally, with people who like olicity in general. It's the third kind that has destroyed peoples perceptions of olicity.

The ones who stampede Twitter and Facebook with #Olicity and demanding that Oliver get together Felicity. There also the ones who cry foul whenever Stephen Amell posts a picture on facebook or twitter with a cast member who isn't Emily Rickard.

The ones that posts hatred towards the cast members because they're interfering with Oliver being Felicity. If you spy on those lunatics, you'll see that whenever Stephen or the Producers posts something about Felicity, it's all kittens and rainbows. If the producers post something that might interfere with their ship (Ray Palmer or Laurel becoming BC for example), it's all filled with hatred and demanding that the producers/Stephen Amell change it to make it focus on Felicity. Stephen recently posted a picture of him and Katie together that Paul Blackthorne took of them. The comments ranged from, "What a nice picture. Paul did a good job" to "This picture is terrible, why do you have Katie there instead of Emily? It should be Emily, take it down. #Olicity"

One thing that most of them agree on is that they hate Laurel/Katie Cassidy. Katie Cassidy is the most abused actress on that show. The amount of hate that spews from that dark corner of the fandom is absurd. They have morphed their perception to going from hating her because she and Oliver are close, to hating her because she's done x, y and z. Pick any minor thing that Laurel/Katie has done and they've called for her to be killed off or written out. They've even threatened Katie, personally not the character, demanding that she quit the show so olicity could happen.

And it's not just Laurel that they hate. When Oliver and Sara were together, the same thing happened to Caity Lotz. Same thing with Helena. Hell, I'm sure if Oliver and Diggle developed a romance, they'd even hate Diggle/David Ramsay, who's the Firstmate of their ship.

Which brings me to my final item on the list. Their Grand Delusion. Tumblr is a cesspool of fan fiction, which is fine and dandy because that's what it's for, fan fiction. The problem is, a few folks over there have taken to making memes about the show, portraying olicity moments that didn't actually happen. Scenes spliced together to tell a story. Actors with quotes over their head that were never said in the show. Mostly harmless stuff that doesn't matter. Except when you get people who don't actually watch the show and merely observe to see the Oliver/Felicity pairing. Then these fan fiction memes and stories become the real thing. All of a sudden, the entire show is nothing more than the Smoak and Arrow show. All of the other characters exist to promote this romance. Diggle is Firstmate, who is their chief shipper. Amell is the captain of the ship because everything he does and says suddenly points to olicity. Laurel is evil because she takes Oliver away from Felicity. I could go on, but I won't.

These things don't stay on tumblr though, they migrate to other media. They honestly believe that the fan fiction they saw there is what actually happened and they come on to other sites promoting it and then wonder why it is that people don't see what they see.

A rather lengthy post to answer a relatively short question, but it's a complicated question that deserved more than, "Olicity is bad, mmkay." And there's more that I could expand upon, but I won't. There's a lot of people on this board who like Felicity but hate olicity. And I'm sure most of them will agree with what I said, but obviously I don't speak for everyone. And I'm sure there will be some from the olicity crowd here that will say "nah-uh, it's not like that". But it is.

In conclusion, it's not so much that people don't like Oliver and Felicity, it's that they don't like the fans of the ship, and don't want to see it on the show.

Yeah I think they'll be an eventual backlash to Felicty and Oliver, more specifically Felicity. She's the nerd girl right now and there's some Clark and Chloe similaries so that's why she's a bit popular but eventually like all CW shows if they keep forcing the pairing, other viewers will probably be more and more vocal about it.
How Arrow's team reacts to that will show how good they are at adjusting and continuing to produce a quality programme. Often CW shows and TV shows in greater to an extent just run with the ship into the ground and without resolve hop onto the next ship without redeeming the characters people now hate (Smallville had this problem more than anyone).
I thought one of the good things this show did was react a little bit at amending the hate for Laurel by including her in Team Arrow and working with Sarah and Helena in the BoP arc. We may see more of that with Ted Grant on the show now training her. They have thankfully not just been content with burying the character and doing half hearted out of the box attempts of reviving which they truthfully dont care about (Lana from Smallville suffered from this) so hopefully these guys know what they are doing.
I think if people do get tired of Felicty and Oliver, they'll break them up maturily and find arcs that develop the characters further. We still need to see Oliver become more of the sarcastic and socialist hero that he is in the comics. Why hire Stephen Amell if you're gonna put the character in that direction. And eventually Felicity maybe more like her character in the comics vs just an Oracle clone.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Honestly, for me, it's mostly how obnoxious the Olicity fans are that has caused people to overtly hate the pairing/ship. This explanation is in no way meant to be rude towards, but I do have a tendency to phrase things differently than I intend to, so apologies in advance.

Here's a list of some of the things that have turned a lot of people off:

The Twitter rampage. All in all, the big Olicity movement has been done by a couple thousand posters who constantly post the #olicity tag on everything. Everybody gets that Olicity is a fan favorite ship. Just because it consumes everything about why they watch the show, doesn't mean they have to advertise it on everything. Stephen Amell could Tweet: "Working in the foundry today and it's freezing"@amellywood. And there would be hundreds of tweets later saying "Huddle up with Emily, she'll keep you warm #olicity" or "What's the foundry? Does that mean #olicity?" For most of the fans who watch the show and don't care about who ends up with who, it's a major turn off when all they see are people propping up a ship that hasn't happened yet.

Which leads us into the Facebook assault. Stephen Amell is an amazing actor. While he probably won't be winning an Oscar or Academy award anytime soon, the level of interaction he has with fans is amazing and unparalleled. He shares so much of his life and work with people that fans have truly fallen in love with him. Unfortunately, there's about 20 people who literally post the same photo to every comment, asking for Olicity. And another 10-15 fans who will go on there and just type #olicity in the comments. To every post. Whether it's a training video, Q&A, or just a status update. Which, again, is a major turn off for people who are watching the show to see Green Arrow.

For a lot of people, having it shoved into our faces constantly like that, is enough to push fans away from the pairing and the show. Even though they like Felicity, it can turn people cynical towards the character and the ship.

There's also the fact, that in the comics Black Canary and Green Arrow get married and Felicity Smoak marries Ed Raymond, the father of Ronnie Raymond, who's half of Firestorm (and being played by Robbie Amell this fall on Flash). Nobody wants the show to follow the comics verbatim, but there are quite a few fans who want them to stick to key points of the comics (who marries who, for example). (For the record, I personally don't care if Oliver gets married in Arrow)

Now let's get into the truly juicy stuff.

There are three kinds of fans who like the pairing: The ones who just think they would be cute together, the ones who think they should be together because of "x" reason (the shipper) and the ones who have dedicated themselves to force it to happen (the hardcore shipper).

The first two aren't that bad. I don't have a problem, personally, with people who like olicity in general. It's the third kind that has destroyed peoples perceptions of olicity.

The ones who stampede Twitter and Facebook with #Olicity and demanding that Oliver get together Felicity. There also the ones who cry foul whenever Stephen Amell posts a picture on facebook or twitter with a cast member who isn't Emily Rickard.

The ones that posts hatred towards the cast members because they're interfering with Oliver being Felicity. If you spy on those lunatics, you'll see that whenever Stephen or the Producers posts something about Felicity, it's all kittens and rainbows. If the producers post something that might interfere with their ship (Ray Palmer or Laurel becoming BC for example), it's all filled with hatred and demanding that the producers/Stephen Amell change it to make it focus on Felicity. Stephen recently posted a picture of him and Katie together that Paul Blackthorne took of them. The comments ranged from, "What a nice picture. Paul did a good job" to "This picture is terrible, why do you have Katie there instead of Emily? It should be Emily, take it down. #Olicity"

One thing that most of them agree on is that they hate Laurel/Katie Cassidy. Katie Cassidy is the most abused actress on that show. The amount of hate that spews from that dark corner of the fandom is absurd. They have morphed their perception to going from hating her because she and Oliver are close, to hating her because she's done x, y and z. Pick any minor thing that Laurel/Katie has done and they've called for her to be killed off or written out. They've even threatened Katie, personally not the character, demanding that she quit the show so olicity could happen.

And it's not just Laurel that they hate. When Oliver and Sara were together, the same thing happened to Caity Lotz. Same thing with Helena. Hell, I'm sure if Oliver and Diggle developed a romance, they'd even hate Diggle/David Ramsay, who's the Firstmate of their ship.

Which brings me to my final item on the list. Their Grand Delusion. Tumblr is a cesspool of fan fiction, which is fine and dandy because that's what it's for, fan fiction. The problem is, a few folks over there have taken to making memes about the show, portraying olicity moments that didn't actually happen. Scenes spliced together to tell a story. Actors with quotes over their head that were never said in the show. Mostly harmless stuff that doesn't matter. Except when you get people who don't actually watch the show and merely observe to see the Oliver/Felicity pairing. Then these fan fiction memes and stories become the real thing. All of a sudden, the entire show is nothing more than the Smoak and Arrow show. All of the other characters exist to promote this romance. Diggle is Firstmate, who is their chief shipper. Amell is the captain of the ship because everything he does and says suddenly points to olicity. Laurel is evil because she takes Oliver away from Felicity. I could go on, but I won't.

These things don't stay on tumblr though, they migrate to other media. They honestly believe that the fan fiction they saw there is what actually happened and they come on to other sites promoting it and then wonder why it is that people don't see what they see.

A rather lengthy post to answer a relatively short question, but it's a complicated question that deserved more than, "Olicity is bad, mmkay." And there's more that I could expand upon, but I won't. There's a lot of people on this board who like Felicity but hate olicity. And I'm sure most of them will agree with what I said, but obviously I don't speak for everyone. And I'm sure there will be some from the olicity crowd here that will say "nah-uh, it's not like that". But it is.

In conclusion, it's not so much that people don't like Oliver and Felicity, it's that they don't like the fans of the ship, and don't want to see it on the show.

Tell 'em why you mad, son!

But seriously I think some of these shows that skew towards a younger audience tend to allow the freakish fan contingent on social media to dictate terms to them which is stupid.

At some point the writers of Arrow are going to have to tune the vocal shippers out and just make the show they plan on making. They need to get to the point that Teen Wolf got to where the crazy fans who decided that two of the male characters should be a couple just became so ridiculous that the show has basically stopped giving those two characters all that much interaction on the show.

 

[prophecypro]

Tell 'em why you mad, son!

But seriously I think some of these shows that skew towards a younger audience tend to allow the freakish fan contingent on social media to dictate terms to them which is stupid.

At some point the writers of Arrow are going to have to tune the vocal shippers out and just make the show they plan on making. They need to get to the point that Teen Wolf got to where the crazy fans who decided that two of the male characters should be a couple just became so ridiculous that the show has basically stopped giving those two characters all that much interaction on the show.

Oh its a massive issue and its been happening the last decade or so. I think Lost, House, Bones, Castle, Smallville, OC, How I Met Your Mother all had examples of being guilty towards and I dont think it helps the writing cause they dont stick to the script literally

 

[Czerka]

Barrowman got a handful

willa holland

 

[satam55]

Honestly, for me, it's mostly how obnoxious the Olicity fans are that has caused people to overtly hate the pairing/ship. This explanation is in no way meant to be rude towards, but I do have a tendency to phrase things differently than I intend to, so apologies in advance.

Here's a list of some of the things that have turned a lot of people off:

The Twitter rampage. All in all, the big Olicity movement has been done by a couple thousand posters who constantly post the #olicity tag on everything. Everybody gets that Olicity is a fan favorite ship. Just because it consumes everything about why they watch the show, doesn't mean they have to advertise it on everything. Stephen Amell could Tweet: "Working in the foundry today and it's freezing"@amellywood. And there would be hundreds of tweets later saying "Huddle up with Emily, she'll keep you warm #olicity" or "What's the foundry? Does that mean #olicity?" For most of the fans who watch the show and don't care about who ends up with who, it's a major turn off when all they see are people propping up a ship that hasn't happened yet.

Which leads us into the Facebook assault. Stephen Amell is an amazing actor. While he probably won't be winning an Oscar or Academy award anytime soon, the level of interaction he has with fans is amazing and unparalleled. He shares so much of his life and work with people that fans have truly fallen in love with him. Unfortunately, there's about 20 people who literally post the same photo to every comment, asking for Olicity. And another 10-15 fans who will go on there and just type #olicity in the comments. To every post. Whether it's a training video, Q&A, or just a status update. Which, again, is a major turn off for people who are watching the show to see Green Arrow.

For a lot of people, having it shoved into our faces constantly like that, is enough to push fans away from the pairing and the show. Even though they like Felicity, it can turn people cynical towards the character and the ship.

There's also the fact, that in the comics Black Canary and Green Arrow get married and Felicity Smoak marries Ed Raymond, the father of Ronnie Raymond, who's half of Firestorm (and being played by Robbie Amell this fall on Flash). Nobody wants the show to follow the comics verbatim, but there are quite a few fans who want them to stick to key points of the comics (who marries who, for example). (For the record, I personally don't care if Oliver gets married in Arrow)

Now let's get into the truly juicy stuff.

There are three kinds of fans who like the pairing: The ones who just think they would be cute together, the ones who think they should be together because of "x" reason (the shipper) and the ones who have dedicated themselves to force it to happen (the hardcore shipper).

The first two aren't that bad. I don't have a problem, personally, with people who like olicity in general. It's the third kind that has destroyed peoples perceptions of olicity.

The ones who stampede Twitter and Facebook with #Olicity and demanding that Oliver get together Felicity. There also the ones who cry foul whenever Stephen Amell posts a picture on facebook or twitter with a cast member who isn't Emily Rickard.

The ones that posts hatred towards the cast members because they're interfering with Oliver being Felicity. If you spy on those lunatics, you'll see that whenever Stephen or the Producers posts something about Felicity, it's all kittens and rainbows. If the producers post something that might interfere with their ship (Ray Palmer or Laurel becoming BC for example), it's all filled with hatred and demanding that the producers/Stephen Amell change it to make it focus on Felicity. Stephen recently posted a picture of him and Katie together that Paul Blackthorne took of them. The comments ranged from, "What a nice picture. Paul did a good job" to "This picture is terrible, why do you have Katie there instead of Emily? It should be Emily, take it down. #Olicity"

One thing that most of them agree on is that they hate Laurel/Katie Cassidy. Katie Cassidy is the most abused actress on that show. The amount of hate that spews from that dark corner of the fandom is absurd. They have morphed their perception to going from hating her because she and Oliver are close, to hating her because she's done x, y and z. Pick any minor thing that Laurel/Katie has done and they've called for her to be killed off or written out. They've even threatened Katie, personally not the character, demanding that she quit the show so olicity could happen.

And it's not just Laurel that they hate. When Oliver and Sara were together, the same thing happened to Caity Lotz. Same thing with Helena. Hell, I'm sure if Oliver and Diggle developed a romance, they'd even hate Diggle/David Ramsay, who's the Firstmate of their ship.

Which brings me to my final item on the list. Their Grand Delusion. Tumblr is a cesspool of fan fiction, which is fine and dandy because that's what it's for, fan fiction. The problem is, a few folks over there have taken to making memes about the show, portraying olicity moments that didn't actually happen. Scenes spliced together to tell a story. Actors with quotes over their head that were never said in the show. Mostly harmless stuff that doesn't matter. Except when you get people who don't actually watch the show and merely observe to see the Oliver/Felicity pairing. Then these fan fiction memes and stories become the real thing. All of a sudden, the entire show is nothing more than the Smoak and Arrow show. All of the other characters exist to promote this romance. Diggle is Firstmate, who is their chief shipper. Amell is the captain of the ship because everything he does and says suddenly points to olicity. Laurel is evil because she takes Oliver away from Felicity. I could go on, but I won't.

These things don't stay on tumblr though, they migrate to other media. They honestly believe that the fan fiction they saw there is what actually happened and they come on to other sites promoting it and then wonder why it is that people don't see what they see.

A rather lengthy post to answer a relatively short question, but it's a complicated question that deserved more than, "Olicity is bad, mmkay." And there's more that I could expand upon, but I won't. There's a lot of people on this board who like Felicity but hate olicity. And I'm sure most of them will agree with what I said, but obviously I don't speak for everyone. And I'm sure there will be some from the olicity crowd here that will say "nah-uh, it's not like that". But it is.

In conclusion, it's not so much that people don't like Oliver and Felicity, it's that they don't like the fans of the ship, and don't want to see it on the show.

I watch too many shows for me to keep up to see how crazy the fanbase is of a certain show & how hard they root for a 'ship. It also doesn't help that I don't watch any of my shows Live, I wait till later in the week to watch them.


This got me wondering how crazy the TVD fanbase is & what 'ship they root for. I just got into it in January & didn't catch-up until a week after this past season finale aired, so I have no idea. @prophecypro

 

[satam55]

Barrowman got a handful

He can get away with that since that aint the handful that he's into....

It reminds me of the gay actor that played Lionel Luthor on "Smallville" being friends & hanging out with the actresses that played Lana & Chloe outside of the show.

willa holland

Been into her since "The O.C.", but I downplayed it since she was jailbait back than. But now she's in her early 20's on "Arrow" & I can lust.


I would be surprised if she wasn't into nikkas.


We ever gonna get the story behind this:

 

[prophecypro]

I watch too many shows for me to keep up to see how crazy the fanbase is of a certain show & how hard they root for a 'ship. It also doesn't help that I don't watch any of my shows Live, I wait till later in the week to watch them.


This got me wondering how crazy the TVD fanbase is & what 'ship they root for. I just got into it in January & didn't catch-up until a week after this past season finale aired, so I have no idea. @prophecypro

I think its mostly Elena and Damon and then people who dont like them. They are some Caroline and Stefan people or Bonnie who whoever she is with etc


Yo my dude, there's some funny ass real life gossip ship that's going on with that right now between Ian and Nina fukking other people and trying to get back at each other in the press

 

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It reminds me of the gay actor that played Lionel Luthor on "Smallville" being friends & hanging out with the actresses that played Lana & Chloe outside of the show.







Been into her since "The O.C.", but I downplayed it since she was jailbait back than. But now she's in her early 20's on "Arrow" & I can lust.


I would be surprised if she wasn't into nikkas.


We ever gonna get the story behind this:

i remember thinking how crazy it was how they found someone that looked so much like marissa she had that stuck up, snooty attitude on that show that i loved

imagine being an actor on one of these CW shows around all these fine ass women... i wonder how many of them stephen amell has knocked down...

 

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i remember thinking how crazy it was how they found someone that looked so much like marissa she had that stuck up, snooty attitude on that show that i loved

imagine being an actor on one of these CW shows around all these fine ass women... i wonder how many of them stephen amell has knocked down...

That's how Ian Somerhadler developed his prey for hunting them the past decade or so.