Cats like him juice and take supps but still look shytty cuz they have no discipline with their diet or sleeping habits.
You damn right, plenty of them in the gym. I know a few personally, they look like stereotypical tow truck drivers or got guts hanging over their weight belts. Many use tons of compounds for years on end, some look okay in clothes, but have never had abs.
One of my friends has a costco jar of peanut m&m's in his cabinet eating handfuls
I was like what are you doing
Most of the people that I know on vitamin s at this point are on the opposite end of the spectrum, regimented, compete, etc.
Some just workout to eat what they want so they don't get sloppy, I don't fault them if they do that naturally because they won't even do bloodwork