HarlemHottie
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Good work, breh.
They flooding us out. 
I gotta catch up on this thread and ados business more broadly. Personal life has been bery distracting.
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They flooding us out. I gotta catch up on this thread and ados business more broadly. Personal life has been bery distracting.
Captain Crunch
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Watched a video of a biracial (Half-Black American) woman stating how biracials fit into the ADOS/FBA Bloodline and it made think.
I agree with her.
As long as you have a tract record of self-identifying as Black or have a parent that does, and you have one direct ancestor(great grandparent, great great grandparent, etc) who was enslaved in America then you ADOS.
For example, Lenny Kravitz is ADOS, his daughter Zoey is likely classified as such too
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
Slavery Reparations
Radio debate w/ Dr. Darity
The debate for reparations for African Americans and the descendants of slaves is one that has persisted since the official end of slavery with the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863.
Slavery Reparations
Proponents for reparations believe that the families of those slaves are still owed for the years of unpaid labor, as well as the discrimination after slavery that had a direct impact on their ability to accumulate things such as wealth and education.
Those who are against reparations, however, believe that no one alive now should be held responsible for slavery and that it may be unethical.
Today on All Sides with Ann Fisher: understanding the arguments for reparations for slavery and whether or not they are achievable.
Guests:
Radio debate w/ Dr. Darity
The debate for reparations for African Americans and the descendants of slaves is one that has persisted since the official end of slavery with the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863.
Slavery Reparations
Proponents for reparations believe that the families of those slaves are still owed for the years of unpaid labor, as well as the discrimination after slavery that had a direct impact on their ability to accumulate things such as wealth and education.
Those who are against reparations, however, believe that no one alive now should be held responsible for slavery and that it may be unethical.
Today on All Sides with Ann Fisher: understanding the arguments for reparations for slavery and whether or not they are achievable.
Guests:
- Hasan Kwame Jeffries, associate professor, Ohio State University department of history
- William Darity Jr., professor of public policy, Duke University
- Tony Bogues, director, Brown University's Steering Committee on Slavery and Justice
Secure Da Bag
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Captain Crunch
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If this is true
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
ADOS at the Center
A Necessary, Timely Reckoning
By Raquel McGee
The ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) movement has set off shockwaves throughout the sociopolitical discourse in the African diaspora, with the insistence on centering the experiences of those who are descendants of American chattel slavery rankling many a detractor. Many bristle at the thought of ADOS carving out a specific space for this lineage, which runs counter to the Wakanda-esque, “flat blackness”* (as Yvette Carnell, one of the thought leaders, would say) being fully embraced by black millennials like myself.
The two core principles that drive the ADOS movement are:
It is uncanny to hear the fragile reactions to this simple message, as though these two principles are somehow untoward or unethical. We should be viewing the way ADOS has shifted our collective sociopolitical discourse as a part of Dr. King’s long “arc of the moral universe.” We should not be bristling at the idea of a distinct ADOS identity, but instead taking the time to have frank conversations about how we Diaspora folks (my parents are Jamaican immigrants) use the concept of universal blackness when it suits us in order to stake a claim over ADOS cultural capital, and then proudly wear the flags of our respective nations when we choose to do so.
Analyzing the Role of ADOS
First, let’s understand that the distinct nature of ADOS identity is not a new concept, and the enraged reactions to it are illogical and unfounded. In his first speech at the Inaugural Pan African Convention circa 1900, W.E.B. DuBois elegantly outlined the distinct freedom struggles that black people were engaging in all over the world. He chastised Christian missionaries for their role in colonialism across the African continent. He rebuked white colonial powers for not granting self-rule to the black nations they were oppressing. DuBois lauded independent black nations like Liberia and Haiti for their importance in bringing up ideas of global black self-determination into fruition, and then he talked specifically about the task that faced the “American Negro.”
We would do well to remind ourselves of his stirring words as we analyze the role of ADOS in our current context:
“Let not the spirit of Garrison, Phillips, and Douglass wholly die out in America; may the conscience of a great nation rise and rebuke all dishonesty and unrighteous oppression toward the American Negro, and grant to him the right of franchise, security of person and property, and generous recognition of the great work he has accomplished in a generation toward raising nine millions of human beings from slavery to manhood.”
Would any of us dare to take DuBois to task for this kind of specificity? Would we tell him that it was improper to specifically name the “American Negro” as a distinct freedom struggle worthy of particular attention? Absolutely not. So why do so many of us who are rooted in a Pan-Africanist ethos consider the ADOS call for specificity an unethical approach? We should instead be lauding this movement for continuing in the same tradition of carving out a specific identity for ADOS, in the same tradition of DuBois, Dr. King, Baldwin and, notably, Mother Audley Moore. Mother Moore, the founder of the Reparations Committee for the Descendants of American slaves, would probably be shocked to find her legacy used as a moral argument against the presence of ADOS, as she asserted that reparations would be used as a poverty-ending measure for the “American citizens of African descent.”
To the justice claim itself, I want to first point to the fallacy that flat blackness exists as a material reality within this country. I will first point out that the vast majority of black immigrants, my family included, have come to the United States in a post-1980 wave[ii], making the claim that a distinct ADOS identity is an impossibility to untangle an intellectually dishonest one. We need to be honest about the fact that many black immigrants arrive in this country with access to resources and educational attainment that is made exceedingly more difficult for ADOS living in the “belly of the beast,” a system of white supremacy that has found various mechanisms to subjugate ADOS people since the end of chattel slavery.
Indeed, we find that 28% of black immigrants have attained a college degree, which makes sense given that our current immigration system favors those with education and resources. We would do well to understand Suzanne Model’s theory of hyper-selectivity, which contends that those who gain access to this country are among the most favorably positioned in their respective home countries.
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ADOS at the Center | GAW
A Necessary, Timely Reckoning
By Raquel McGee
The ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) movement has set off shockwaves throughout the sociopolitical discourse in the African diaspora, with the insistence on centering the experiences of those who are descendants of American chattel slavery rankling many a detractor. Many bristle at the thought of ADOS carving out a specific space for this lineage, which runs counter to the Wakanda-esque, “flat blackness”* (as Yvette Carnell, one of the thought leaders, would say) being fully embraced by black millennials like myself.
The two core principles that drive the ADOS movement are:
- The belief that American descendants of slavery are a distinct ethnic group with a distinct justice claim
- The moral and material urgency of the reparations claim, as the group careens towards zero wealth. https://www.globalafricanworker.com...0DIYznGCAhk_IcM8lsgxx3fNnbku1kD5wkVQUWc#_edn1
It is uncanny to hear the fragile reactions to this simple message, as though these two principles are somehow untoward or unethical. We should be viewing the way ADOS has shifted our collective sociopolitical discourse as a part of Dr. King’s long “arc of the moral universe.” We should not be bristling at the idea of a distinct ADOS identity, but instead taking the time to have frank conversations about how we Diaspora folks (my parents are Jamaican immigrants) use the concept of universal blackness when it suits us in order to stake a claim over ADOS cultural capital, and then proudly wear the flags of our respective nations when we choose to do so.
Analyzing the Role of ADOS
First, let’s understand that the distinct nature of ADOS identity is not a new concept, and the enraged reactions to it are illogical and unfounded. In his first speech at the Inaugural Pan African Convention circa 1900, W.E.B. DuBois elegantly outlined the distinct freedom struggles that black people were engaging in all over the world. He chastised Christian missionaries for their role in colonialism across the African continent. He rebuked white colonial powers for not granting self-rule to the black nations they were oppressing. DuBois lauded independent black nations like Liberia and Haiti for their importance in bringing up ideas of global black self-determination into fruition, and then he talked specifically about the task that faced the “American Negro.”
We would do well to remind ourselves of his stirring words as we analyze the role of ADOS in our current context:
“Let not the spirit of Garrison, Phillips, and Douglass wholly die out in America; may the conscience of a great nation rise and rebuke all dishonesty and unrighteous oppression toward the American Negro, and grant to him the right of franchise, security of person and property, and generous recognition of the great work he has accomplished in a generation toward raising nine millions of human beings from slavery to manhood.”
Would any of us dare to take DuBois to task for this kind of specificity? Would we tell him that it was improper to specifically name the “American Negro” as a distinct freedom struggle worthy of particular attention? Absolutely not. So why do so many of us who are rooted in a Pan-Africanist ethos consider the ADOS call for specificity an unethical approach? We should instead be lauding this movement for continuing in the same tradition of carving out a specific identity for ADOS, in the same tradition of DuBois, Dr. King, Baldwin and, notably, Mother Audley Moore. Mother Moore, the founder of the Reparations Committee for the Descendants of American slaves, would probably be shocked to find her legacy used as a moral argument against the presence of ADOS, as she asserted that reparations would be used as a poverty-ending measure for the “American citizens of African descent.”
To the justice claim itself, I want to first point to the fallacy that flat blackness exists as a material reality within this country. I will first point out that the vast majority of black immigrants, my family included, have come to the United States in a post-1980 wave[ii], making the claim that a distinct ADOS identity is an impossibility to untangle an intellectually dishonest one. We need to be honest about the fact that many black immigrants arrive in this country with access to resources and educational attainment that is made exceedingly more difficult for ADOS living in the “belly of the beast,” a system of white supremacy that has found various mechanisms to subjugate ADOS people since the end of chattel slavery.
Indeed, we find that 28% of black immigrants have attained a college degree, which makes sense given that our current immigration system favors those with education and resources. We would do well to understand Suzanne Model’s theory of hyper-selectivity, which contends that those who gain access to this country are among the most favorably positioned in their respective home countries.
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ADOS at the Center | GAW
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
If this is true
The arrogant ass tone of the poster. "we need these people back here"
How many of them were educated in the U.S.?
Not trying to start no tribal wars but how many ADOS spots did these students take in college and Med School?
Now the continent wants them back? I'm sorry but this is jacked up all the way around for us but ADOS is in the wrong when we speak out?
As long as you have a tract record of self-identifying as Black or have a parent that does, and you have one direct ancestor(great grandparent, great great grandparent, etc) who was enslaved in America then you ADOS.
For example, Lenny Kravitz is ADOS, his daughter Zoey is likely classified as such too
His grandmother was an ADOS from georgiageorgia. All this time I thought he was just bahamian
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
You know I'm CDOS. But I agree with the tweet. They do need to go back home. Those countries are struggling. The reason immigrants keep coming here is because there's no professionals to alleviate the situation there.
I'd say 95%+ were educated here.
Captain Crunch
Veteran
Yvette and Tone need to reach out to Boozie and put him on game
Captain Crunch
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@saturn7
Guys, these two sites might be the important sites politically for us.
My Congressional District
The link above can breakdown how many people are in your district are by ancestry, so you can subtract all the Africans and West Indians from the Black population, the result of the subtraction will leave you w/ how many ADOS are in the district. For example, NY's 5th Congressional District has 379k Black people there, but when you scroll down to "Ancestry" you'll see about 150k non-ADOS Blacks(Africans, WI's). You subtract that 150k from the total Black population(which is 379k) leaves you with 229k ADOS(30% of the District).
New York's 5th Congressional District election, 2018 - Ballotpedia
Now this second link shows that 160k people voted in that district's last election, if the ADOS there can mobilize just 69% of there population(160k) or even 50% of their population(114k) you got a critical bloc that can force any candidate to bend to their will.
Use these links, then search for your area and local elections. Doing that, you can see how many ADOS are in your area, as well as how many votes are needed. Btw, Ballotpedia shows the votes of smaller elections like State Assembly and City Council too, those elections people really don't vote in.
Guys, these two sites might be the important sites politically for us.
My Congressional District
The link above can breakdown how many people are in your district are by ancestry, so you can subtract all the Africans and West Indians from the Black population, the result of the subtraction will leave you w/ how many ADOS are in the district. For example, NY's 5th Congressional District has 379k Black people there, but when you scroll down to "Ancestry" you'll see about 150k non-ADOS Blacks(Africans, WI's). You subtract that 150k from the total Black population(which is 379k) leaves you with 229k ADOS(30% of the District).
New York's 5th Congressional District election, 2018 - Ballotpedia
Now this second link shows that 160k people voted in that district's last election, if the ADOS there can mobilize just 69% of there population(160k) or even 50% of their population(114k) you got a critical bloc that can force any candidate to bend to their will.
Use these links, then search for your area and local elections. Doing that, you can see how many ADOS are in your area, as well as how many votes are needed. Btw, Ballotpedia shows the votes of smaller elections like State Assembly and City Council too, those elections people really don't vote in.
Secure Da Bag
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saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
Secure Da Bag
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Tom Steyer just put out a plan concerning Aframs.
Tom Steyer and African Americans
https://www.tomsteyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/200224_TS2020_AfricanAmericanPolicy.pdf
Tom Steyer and African Americans
https://www.tomsteyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/200224_TS2020_AfricanAmericanPolicy.pdf