The OFFICIAL 2021 College Football RANDOM THOUGHTS thread

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If USC doesn't grab an NFL guy like Bieniemy, this is how I think it goes.

Luke Fickell - No. too many sources around him have said he's not interested and if there were any jobs he would leave Cincy for, it would be OSU and Notre Dame. Too big of a family, devout catholic and he's spent most of his life in Ohio.

Bob Stoops - doesn't make sense why he would want to go rebuild a struggling blueblood with issues only unique to USC. What does he have to prove here with no personal ties to the SoCal region?

Jonathan Franklin - I doubt it. He just rebuilt a blueblood in Penn St, so why would he leave his 8 mil salary to go to a more expensive part of the country to build another one. If he wins the B1G this year, he's not going anywhere. If they fall off a cliff and Penn State is on his head, maybe he takes the call?

Mario Cristobal - Makes sense to take the call, but why would he leave Oregon when he's got them rolling, Phil Knight's wallet, and has taken over USC/UCLA's backyard for talent. The only jobs he considers are Miami and Bama.

Two guys I think would take the offer:

PJ Fleck - I mean he's tailor-made for USC. Charismatic personality, teams play tough and get up for big games. Could bring back the feeling of the Pete Carroll trojans, but could also flop. I see USC considering him if he wins the B1G West this year. Boom or Bust candidate

Tom Herman - SoCal native that flamed out at Texas, but he could be the guy who sees this is at the opportunity to redeem himself. Similar to Fleck, I think he could be a boom or bust candidate. I do think he would be an upgrade from Helton.

Edit: From a UCLA sub forum source

I've heard that the main four contenders at this time are ex-Texas coach Tom Herman, Central Florida's Gus Malzahn, Minnesota's P.J. Fleck and Penn State's James Franklin.

USC is going in the direction of bringing in a coach that is going to fit with its culture, which is donor/booster-dominated. Athletic director Mike Bohn doesn't want the "little dictator" type of guy that controls everything -- and that would be Cincinnati's Luke Fickell and Iowa State's Matt Campbell, and definitely ex-Washington coach Chris Petersen. Bohn wants the USC program to embrace its high-profile, booster-influenced, publicity-facing, Los Angeles-blitz-embracing program, and needs a coach that is very comfortable in that environment. which is mainly schmoozing with boosters well. What Chip Kelly does at UCLA -- the highly-controlled, closed type of environment -- yeah, Bohn wants the opposite.

Right now, Franklin is the pie-in-the-sky wish-list guy. Herman and Malzahn are the most likely, and Fleck is probably a distant fourth, fall-back option that USC knows is available and it believes it can get.

It's really wild to me that Jack del Rio isn't getting any buzz. He's an NFL guy who found success as a DC and a head coach. He's still relatively young and a player friendly coach. Plus he said he'd consider the job if presented to him back in 2019.
 

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Interesting to see who gets patience and who don’t:mjpls:, even folks in the comments to that tweet saying the same thing
 

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If USC doesn't grab an NFL guy like Bieniemy, this is how I think it goes.

Luke Fickell - No. too many sources around him have said he's not interested and if there were any jobs he would leave Cincy for, it would be OSU and Notre Dame. Too big of a family, devout catholic and he's spent most of his life in Ohio.

Bob Stoops - doesn't make sense why he would want to go rebuild a struggling blueblood with issues only unique to USC. What does he have to prove here with no personal ties to the SoCal region?

Jonathan Franklin - I doubt it. He just rebuilt a blueblood in Penn St, so why would he leave his 8 mil salary to go to a more expensive part of the country to build another one. If he wins the B1G this year, he's not going anywhere. If they fall off a cliff and Penn State is on his head, maybe he takes the call?

Mario Cristobal - Makes sense to take the call, but why would he leave Oregon when he's got them rolling, Phil Knight's wallet, and has taken over USC/UCLA's backyard for talent. The only jobs he considers are Miami and Bama.

Two guys I think would take the offer:

PJ Fleck - I mean he's tailor-made for USC. Charismatic personality, teams play tough and get up for big games. Could bring back the feeling of the Pete Carroll trojans, but could also flop. I see USC considering him if he wins the B1G West this year. Boom or Bust candidate

Tom Herman - SoCal native that flamed out at Texas, but he could be the guy who sees this is at the opportunity to redeem himself. Similar to Fleck, I think he could be a boom or bust candidate. I do think he would be an upgrade from Helton.

Edit: From a UCLA sub forum source

I've heard that the main four contenders at this time are ex-Texas coach Tom Herman, Central Florida's Gus Malzahn, Minnesota's P.J. Fleck and Penn State's James Franklin.

USC is going in the direction of bringing in a coach that is going to fit with its culture, which is donor/booster-dominated. Athletic director Mike Bohn doesn't want the "little dictator" type of guy that controls everything -- and that would be Cincinnati's Luke Fickell and Iowa State's Matt Campbell, and definitely ex-Washington coach Chris Petersen. Bohn wants the USC program to embrace its high-profile, booster-influenced, publicity-facing, Los Angeles-blitz-embracing program, and needs a coach that is very comfortable in that environment. which is mainly schmoozing with boosters well. What Chip Kelly does at UCLA -- the highly-controlled, closed type of environment -- yeah, Bohn wants the opposite.

Right now, Franklin is the pie-in-the-sky wish-list guy. Herman and Malzahn are the most likely, and Fleck is probably a distant fourth, fall-back option that USC knows is available and it believes it can get.


I think Franklin is the lead, it’s all in if he’s tired of psu and Vice versa, and how far he thinks he can push psu to osu status…. They won’t, so maybe he’s reached his ceiling, he was the California recruiter when he was at wsu(not that that counts) also he’s able to dance between both worlds of you know what I mean

Luke is next he’s a good fit and culture guy, he knows how to find gems, and he knows how to bring sec level recruiting ( he knows how the sausage is made) y’all act like it ain’t Catholics in La, also that osu and ND job ain’t coming open anytime soon, and usc is a better job than the big 12’s own nasty natti

that rah rah pj stuff ain’t what the big league wants plus they watching him suffer now that he has limited talent
 

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I think Franklin is the lead, it’s all in if he’s tired of psu and Vice versa, and how far he thinks he can push psu to osu status…. They won’t, so maybe he’s reached his ceiling, he was the California recruiter when he was at wsu(not that that counts) also he’s able to dance between both worlds of you know what I mean

Luke is next he’s a good fit and culture guy, he knows how to find gems, and he knows how to bring sec level recruiting ( he knows how the sausage is made) y’all act like it ain’t Catholics in La, also that osu and ND job ain’t coming open anytime soon, and usc is a better job than the big 12’s own nasty natti

that rah rah pj stuff ain’t what the big league wants plus they watching him suffer now that he has limited talent
I do think Franklin is their number one target, but I just dont see him leaving Penn St with the momentum they have. That could change by the end of the season.

Its not just Luke being catholic and cultural differences, but him giving up the control he has over Cincy. He won't have that with SC where big boosters/donors will heavy say into how he operates. Thats what allowed Helton to last as long as he did. He went for the ride. Guys like Luke Fickell and Chris Peterson aren't going to give that type of control up. Plus, he has a family of six kids and reportedly a wife that is against leaving the Midwest area. I think all those things keep him at Cincy until another job opens where he can steer the ship.
 

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USC gonna drop ONE game to some unranked scrub in a primetime slot and Silk gonna change all that "Gus this Gus that" shyt :mjlol:
If Gus did what he did at Bum Ass Auburn having to play Bama, UGA, & LSU every season he'd easily win 10 games here every season.
 
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