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Great spring game for Jalen he's gonna have a big year against those Big 12 defense. Just might win the Heisman, Tua going to be sitting after halftime in a lot of our games again.





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gawtdamn right :talkintoyou:


Always rooting for Jalen, but that Sooner defense :huhldup: and those were probably the backups out therr :huhldup::huhldup:

He was going against the first team defense. And not like he is going to face a much better defense in the Big 12 besides Texas. He's going to have a huge year imo maybe not quite Baker and Kyler like but close

Eh Big 12 defenses are always trash.

That's why Jalen gon have the greatest season known to man :wow:



@jadillac watch after my quotaback please.
Cherish him :to:






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Jalen Hurts is who we think he is

Dynamic runner with a lot of power and agility, can throw a great ball to an early read, doesn’t progress very well and is quick to bail on the pocket and generally to his right.

Here’s the finest example from the game of how Hurts is likely to translate in this offense:

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Simple read and good protection but the throw is anticipatory and well placed. Hurts has a tendency to kind of lay the ball in and at times you wonder how that would work out against a quicker DB but the dude has never been known for throwing picks. He was more overly cautious at Alabama than anything.

It seems really straightforward to assume that with a summer and fall camp ahead that Hurts will be able to master a solid chunk of the Oklahoma playbook, which includes a lot of passing concepts that can offer simpler reads. When he has fuller reads to progress through he’s tended to miss pre-snap cues and struggled to find targets. For instance:

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It’s one of those two-sided concepts. Snag to the boundary and double slants to the field with the outside WR extra wide to have space. Against two-high snag (corner route, snag route, flat) is often a good look because it’s hard for the deep safety to cover that corner route by the slot.

OU-spring-game-snag.jpg

The issue with the snag concept run to the boundary like this is there’s less space to work in. The CB Robert Charlton and WLB DaShaun White get away with hanging a beat in the deeper passing windows (the corner route for Charlton and the snag for White) and beating that coverage requires Hurts forcing them to commit to routes or else pulling the trigger quickly. The snag was certainly open for a beat.

Instead he’s looking to the field, where the whole formation and concept is essentially serving to isolate that outside X receiver (freshman Theo Wease) on the slant. But Hurts looks at the H (Basquine) doesn’t like the spacing there on that first slant (duh, dude is starting from just outside the box) and then tries to work through the snag progression when it’s already too late before bailing right and ultimately throwing away. Both the snag and the outside slant were there if he works quickly through the read and the corner route might be there as well had he made the CB commit to the snag.

Again, he’s going to get better in this offense and there’s a lot within the Oklahoma playbook that will make the most of his considerable abilities. But the dude should never be confused with an NFL prospect and the concern is whether he’ll be able to discern disguises and make reads against good defenses that will take away the easy stuff.
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Alabama football’s coach behind the scenes
Tua and Lia's dad is basically our QB coach now:ehh:

Galu Tagovailoa, the father of starting quarterback Tua and his younger brother, freshman backup Taulia, has had a strong relationship with Sarkisian dating back to Tua’s youthful days in Hawaii. With Sarkisian back in Tuscaloosa after two years in the NFL, his longtime friend, Galu, was a regular during practices this spring, according to sources inside Alabama athletics. Galu even worked with his sons at times.

Galu, a self-styled quarterbacks guru, is not officially on staff, but the father of Tua and Taulia has had a growing impact at Alabama over the last few months. He’s acting as a quarterbacks consultant behind the scenes for the offense, and is a consistent presence around the program. For the next few years, few others around Alabama football will have the power to affect the program quite like the Tagovailoas’ father.
 

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Maybe the "worse" player rankings wise fit their scheme better. It be like that a lot of times....
Lol the other dude committed to LSU a few weeks ago they didn't tell him to look elsewhere he just liked Oregon better. And you can recruit more than 1 LB that fits your scheme btw
 

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Lol the other dude committed to LSU a few weeks ago they didn't tell him to look elsewhere he just liked Oregon better. And you can recruit more than 1 LB that fits your scheme btw
“From a football standpoint, I like how they want to use me at Oregon and I think I fit the Pac-12 style of play a little better. The SEC is more of a running conference and the Pac-12 is more of a throwing conference. I’ll be able to rush the quarterback more, move around and make plays in space at multiple positions. I was mostly going to be an in the box linebacker at LSU but with Oregon, I’ll play outside ‘backer, inside ‘backer and even defensive end in certain pass rushing situations so I think it’s a better all around scheme fit for me.”
 

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"
Jalen Hurts is who we think he is

Dynamic runner with a lot of power and agility, can throw a great ball to an early read, doesn’t progress very well and is quick to bail on the pocket and generally to his right.

Here’s the finest example from the game of how Hurts is likely to translate in this offense:

giphy.gif


Simple read and good protection but the throw is anticipatory and well placed. Hurts has a tendency to kind of lay the ball in and at times you wonder how that would work out against a quicker DB but the dude has never been known for throwing picks. He was more overly cautious at Alabama than anything.

It seems really straightforward to assume that with a summer and fall camp ahead that Hurts will be able to master a solid chunk of the Oklahoma playbook, which includes a lot of passing concepts that can offer simpler reads. When he has fuller reads to progress through he’s tended to miss pre-snap cues and struggled to find targets. For instance:

giphy.gif


It’s one of those two-sided concepts. Snag to the boundary and double slants to the field with the outside WR extra wide to have space. Against two-high snag (corner route, snag route, flat) is often a good look because it’s hard for the deep safety to cover that corner route by the slot.

OU-spring-game-snag.jpg

The issue with the snag concept run to the boundary like this is there’s less space to work in. The CB Robert Charlton and WLB DaShaun White get away with hanging a beat in the deeper passing windows (the corner route for Charlton and the snag for White) and beating that coverage requires Hurts forcing them to commit to routes or else pulling the trigger quickly. The snag was certainly open for a beat.

Instead he’s looking to the field, where the whole formation and concept is essentially serving to isolate that outside X receiver (freshman Theo Wease) on the slant. But Hurts looks at the H (Basquine) doesn’t like the spacing there on that first slant (duh, dude is starting from just outside the box) and then tries to work through the snag progression when it’s already too late before bailing right and ultimately throwing away. Both the snag and the outside slant were there if he works quickly through the read and the corner route might be there as well had he made the CB commit to the snag.

Again, he’s going to get better in this offense and there’s a lot within the Oklahoma playbook that will make the most of his considerable abilities. But the dude should never be confused with an NFL prospect and the concern is whether he’ll be able to discern disguises and make reads against good defenses that will take away the easy stuff.
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Watched Bama's spring game.

Sark might be a problem for yall but the schedule shouldn't be a problem.

Taulia looks like he's going to be pretty good in a couple years :ehh:

To be fair with Sark, Atlanta was 6th in Total Offense last season, he’s not a bad OC and the National Title game against Clemson in 17 was just bad circumstances all around.

I saw some tendencies in playcalling during the spring game that concerned me but it’ll probably look different by the Duke game.

Also, yeah Taulia is basically a raw, smaller, right handed Tua.
 
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