Predicting a guy to be injury prone out of college is lame. Stick to their game. Will they be busts because of their GAME? If not
The Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread
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TUA TAGOVAILOA
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Awuzie got absolutely destroyed by James Washington. Don't see how he is a 1st rounder.
Mason Rudolph destroyed that Colorado secondary with Awuzie, Witherspoon and Thompson. That tape alone should have him top 5 next year with all those guys about to go in the first few rounds of this draft.
Lol funny thing is I'd take either one of them.like the John Ross on Jackson receipt
TUA TAGOVAILOA
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Well Mason Rudolph will be the first or second QB taken next year and James Washington will be a first round WR so can't be too hard on Awuzie. I was just expecting more out of that secondary. He's probably still a good player and I like Adoree a lot, I think I'd rather wait until the 2nd-3rd to draft a corner though with all the depth.
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Every updated mock draft I'm seeing has Mike Williams going 14th or lower. Does anyone believe he might really fall to 14?
Yea. Y'all may not even pick him if his 40 is
Box Factory
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He could run a 6.0 40 and I'm still drafting him at 14Yea. Y'all may not even pick him if his 40 is
lol nah he gotta give me 4.5 something. Anything past 4.6
if he run 4.5 and he slip to us I'm taking him too though
King P
Legends Never Die
2017 NFL Combine Stock Report: Linebackers
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Tyus Bowser, DE/OLB, Houston
Tyus Bowser came out of his shell at the combine and continued to breathe fire at the combine. Bowser displayed excellent athleticism in Indianapolis, hammering a 4.65 40, which was one of the fastest times for all the linebackers. His other tests were excellent (10-7 broad, 37.5 vertical, 6.75 3-cone), and he showed some terrific change-of-direction skills in the on-field drills. Bowser appears to have axed any notions that he'll be chosen after Day 2.
Blair Brown, LB, Ohio
A publication interviewed me a week prior to the combine, and I was asked to name a sleeper in the NFL Draft. I referenced Blair Brown. Well, he may not be a sleeper any longer, as Brown enjoyed a terrific combine. Brown ran a 4.65 40 with a superb 1.54 10-yard split. He also posted a 10-4 broad jump, a 37-inch vertical and a 6.92 in the 3-cone. Brown doesn't have much experience playing in college, but his 2016 tape was outstanding. Brown just confirmed his great play, so he could definitely be a second-day selection.
Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State
Raekwon McMillan was seen as a very good two-down player at the very least heading into the combine, but there was some question about how well he could do in pass coverage. McMillan's performance in Indianapolis will have evaluators looking at his tape again to see if they missed something because he tested very well. McMillan ran a 4.61 with a terrific 1.55 10-yard split. He also posted a 10-1 broad jump and a 33-inch vertical, all while excelling in the drills.
Jabrill Peppers, S/LB, Michigan
Jabrill Peppers posted some of the best numbers of all the linebackers at the combine. That, of course, is misleading because he's really a safety. Peppers was a good sport about being miscast as a linebacker, as he volunteered to do drills on both days. Peppers excelled in those on-field drills, and some of his testing numbers helped. He ran a 4.46 40 with a 1.53 10-yard split. He also posted a 10-8 broad jump and a 35.5-inch vertical. Peppers is a tweener, but he will likely be chosen in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft despite having quite a few skeptics.
Duke Riley, LB, LSU
Outside of Zach Cunningham, Duke Riley looked the best to me in the on-field drills. He was excellent there, and he was just as good in the testing numbers. He ran a 4.58, which was a great time, especially with a 1.54 10-yard split. He also blazed a 6.89 3-cone to go along with a 10-2 broad jump and a 34.5-inch vertical. By the way, I didn't list Cunningham as a stock-up player because his numbers were kind of average. He made up for it in the drills, so he wasn't going to get a stock-down arrow either.
T.J. Watt, DE/OLB, Wisconsin
T.J. Watt was considered to be on the cusp of the first round entering the combine, and based on what he did in Indianapolis, he may have gotten there. Like his older brother, Watt posted some amazing numbers. He ran a 4.69, which was a nice time considering he's 6-4, 252. Watt had the second-fastest 3-cone time (6.79) among linebackers, and his jumps (10-8 broad, 37-inch vertical) were excellent.
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Ben Boulware, LB, Clemson
Ben Boulware was an excellent player for Clemson, but he doesn't project well into the NFL. Boulware refused to run the 40 because he would be exposed, and his jumping numbers (9-3 broad, 29.5-inch vertical) were very lackluster. He also struggled in the on-field drills, looking awkward and stiff. Boulware could have a place in the NFL as a special-teams player, but that's about it.
Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama
Everyone knows the Reuben Foster story by now. Foster was sent home from the combine for getting into a heated exchange with one of the hospital workers. I still think Foster will be a top-15 pick, but if he drops, this could be the reason why.
Hardy Nickerson, LB, Illinois
Hardy Nickerson was a great team leader in college and the son of a former NFL player, but he didn't show well at the combine. His 40 time (4.78) was very slow, and all he could muster in the broad jump was 9-8. Nickerson is an instinctive player and has solid tape, but the athleticism is very lacking.
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Tyus Bowser, DE/OLB, Houston
Tyus Bowser came out of his shell at the combine and continued to breathe fire at the combine. Bowser displayed excellent athleticism in Indianapolis, hammering a 4.65 40, which was one of the fastest times for all the linebackers. His other tests were excellent (10-7 broad, 37.5 vertical, 6.75 3-cone), and he showed some terrific change-of-direction skills in the on-field drills. Bowser appears to have axed any notions that he'll be chosen after Day 2.
Blair Brown, LB, Ohio
A publication interviewed me a week prior to the combine, and I was asked to name a sleeper in the NFL Draft. I referenced Blair Brown. Well, he may not be a sleeper any longer, as Brown enjoyed a terrific combine. Brown ran a 4.65 40 with a superb 1.54 10-yard split. He also posted a 10-4 broad jump, a 37-inch vertical and a 6.92 in the 3-cone. Brown doesn't have much experience playing in college, but his 2016 tape was outstanding. Brown just confirmed his great play, so he could definitely be a second-day selection.
Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State
Raekwon McMillan was seen as a very good two-down player at the very least heading into the combine, but there was some question about how well he could do in pass coverage. McMillan's performance in Indianapolis will have evaluators looking at his tape again to see if they missed something because he tested very well. McMillan ran a 4.61 with a terrific 1.55 10-yard split. He also posted a 10-1 broad jump and a 33-inch vertical, all while excelling in the drills.
Jabrill Peppers, S/LB, Michigan
Jabrill Peppers posted some of the best numbers of all the linebackers at the combine. That, of course, is misleading because he's really a safety. Peppers was a good sport about being miscast as a linebacker, as he volunteered to do drills on both days. Peppers excelled in those on-field drills, and some of his testing numbers helped. He ran a 4.46 40 with a 1.53 10-yard split. He also posted a 10-8 broad jump and a 35.5-inch vertical. Peppers is a tweener, but he will likely be chosen in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft despite having quite a few skeptics.
Duke Riley, LB, LSU
Outside of Zach Cunningham, Duke Riley looked the best to me in the on-field drills. He was excellent there, and he was just as good in the testing numbers. He ran a 4.58, which was a great time, especially with a 1.54 10-yard split. He also blazed a 6.89 3-cone to go along with a 10-2 broad jump and a 34.5-inch vertical. By the way, I didn't list Cunningham as a stock-up player because his numbers were kind of average. He made up for it in the drills, so he wasn't going to get a stock-down arrow either.
T.J. Watt, DE/OLB, Wisconsin
T.J. Watt was considered to be on the cusp of the first round entering the combine, and based on what he did in Indianapolis, he may have gotten there. Like his older brother, Watt posted some amazing numbers. He ran a 4.69, which was a nice time considering he's 6-4, 252. Watt had the second-fastest 3-cone time (6.79) among linebackers, and his jumps (10-8 broad, 37-inch vertical) were excellent.
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Ben Boulware, LB, Clemson
Ben Boulware was an excellent player for Clemson, but he doesn't project well into the NFL. Boulware refused to run the 40 because he would be exposed, and his jumping numbers (9-3 broad, 29.5-inch vertical) were very lackluster. He also struggled in the on-field drills, looking awkward and stiff. Boulware could have a place in the NFL as a special-teams player, but that's about it.
Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama
Everyone knows the Reuben Foster story by now. Foster was sent home from the combine for getting into a heated exchange with one of the hospital workers. I still think Foster will be a top-15 pick, but if he drops, this could be the reason why.
Hardy Nickerson, LB, Illinois
Hardy Nickerson was a great team leader in college and the son of a former NFL player, but he didn't show well at the combine. His 40 time (4.78) was very slow, and all he could muster in the broad jump was 9-8. Nickerson is an instinctive player and has solid tape, but the athleticism is very lacking.
King P
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2017 NFL Combine Stock Report: Defensive Backs
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Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado
Chidobe Awuzie would've earned a stock-up grade regardless of his testing numbers, unless they were awful. That's because he was one of the top cornerbacks in the drills for the first group. Of course, his numbers were great. He ran a 4.43, posted an 11-0 broad jump and leapt 34.5 inches vertically. His 3-cone time of 6.81 was solid as well. Awuzie had a very strong combine and could be chosen in the second round.
Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State
I'd say Gareon Conley was the overall winner for the first group of defensive backs. He kicked things off with a 4.44 40, and he then went on to post a 10-9 broad jump, a 37-inch vertical and a 6.68 3-cone, which was one of the best times among the players at his position. Conley also thrived in the drills. He was seen as a second-round possibility, but he could now be pushing to be a Thursday night choice.
Shaquill Griffin, CB, Central Florida
Shaquill Griffin posted one of the top 40 times for all of the defensive backs Monday, running an electric 4.38. His other numbers were just as outstanding; he had an 11-0 broad jump and a 38.5-inch vertical. His 3-cone time (6.87) was fine as well. More importantly, Griffin looked very smooth in the drills. He definitely helped himself at the combine.
Adoree Jackson, CB, USC
Adoree Jackson certainly had a solid showing in Indianapolis. He ran a 4.42 40 (4.39 unofficially), and he leapt 36 inches vertically and 10-2 horizontally. Those numbers won't blow anyone away, but they were solid. The reason Jackson is getting an up arrow is because of how great he was in the drills. Of all the defensive backs in the first group, Jackson looked the best in those on-field drills. He did well to cement his first-round status.
Josh Jones, S, N.C. State
Josh Jones was another top winner from the first group of defensive backs. He ran a 4.41 40 and posted an 11-0 in the broad jump and 37.5 inches in the vertical. Keep in mind that Jones is a 220-pound safety! Jones was excellent in the drills as well, so he may have worked his way into second-day consideration.
Kevin King, CB, Washington
There aren't many 6-foot-3 cornerbacks on this planet who can run a 4.43 40, but Kevin King is certainly one of them. King had an awesome performance in Indianapolis. On top of his great 40, he also leapt 39.5 inches vertically and posted a blazing-fast 6.56 3-cone time.
Obi Melifonwu, S, Connecticut
Obi Melifonwu is a freak of nature. There's no other way to describe him. He measured in at 6-4, 224, so keep that in mind when you see his numbers: 4.40 40; 11-9 broad jump; 44-inch vertical. Pretty good, right? The funny thing is that Melifonwu was upset with his vertical leap. Melifonwu is more than just a ridiculous athlete, however. He's actually a very good football player, so it wasn't a surprise that he thrived in the drills.
Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA
Fabian Moreau was overshadowed by the players running right before and after him, but teams undoubtedly took notice. Moreau sprinted a 4.35 40, a terrific number considering he's 6-0, 206. His leaping numbers were also excellent, as he posted a 38-inch vertical and an 11-4 broad jump. Moreau, who was the top player at the East-West Shrine Game, continued his torrid draft preseason.
Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota
Jalen Myrick doesn't have great tape, but he definitely put himself on the radar by what he did at the combine. He ran the fastest 40 of any player not named John Ross, sprinting a 4.28. He also posted a 10-4 broad jump and a 37.5-inch vertical. Front offices will certainly be reviewing his tapes in the coming weeks.
Montae Nicholson, S, Michigan State
I mentioned Josh Jones earlier as a big safety who posted some terrific numbers in the testing drills. Montae Nicholson is another one, as he sprinted a 4.42 40 despite being 6-2, 212 pounds. Nicholson also leapt well, hitting a 10-5 broad jump and a 35-inch vertical. Nicholson could garner some third-round consideration.
Marcus Williams, S, Utah
Jamal Adams and Malik Hooker are obviously the top two safeties in this class, and Jabrill Peppers is probably No. 3. Marcus Williams, however, could challenge Peppers for that spot. His 40 (4.56) wasn't as fast as Peppers', but his other numbers (43.5-inch vertical, 10-9 broad, 6.85 3-cone) were all excellent. Williams was at his best in the drills, where he looked incredibly fluid. It wouldn't be shocking to see Williams creep into the first round.
Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado
There was some talk about Ahkello Witherspoon being a second-round prospect, and this was prior to the combine. Witherspoon did nothing to hurt his draft stock in Indianapolis. He ran a 4.45 with a 1.55 10-yard split, which is quite excellent for a 6-3, 198-pound cornerback. He also tested well elsewhere, notching a 10-7 broad jump and a 40.5-inch vertical. Witherspoon looked extremely fluid in the drills as well, which isn't a surprise because he has great footwork as a result of being a former soccer player.
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Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia
Rasul Douglas' testing numbers can't be described as awful; he ran a 4.59, but he's a 6-2, 209-pound cornerback. His 10-0 broad jump and 33.5-inch vertical weren't poor either. However, Douglas struggled in the drills. He looked awkward and stiff, so I have trouble envisioning him being chosen prior to Day 3.
Lorenzo Jerome, S, St. Francis-PA
Lorenzo Jerome is a solid player on tape, but his testing numbers could hurt him. He ran at a glacial pace in both the 40 and 3-cone, recording a 4.70 and 7.63, respectively. Both numbers were awful. Hopefully Jerome can improve on both at his pro day.
Jalen Tabor, CB, Florida
There were so many blazing 40 times among the second group of defensive backs. Jalen Tabor did not have one, however. His 40 was very disappointing, as he posted a 4.62. His jumps (10-0 broad, 31 vertical) were also disappointing, as was his performance in the on-field drills. Combine this with his off-the-field issues, and Tabor could now widely be considered a second- or even a third-round prospect.
Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
Quincy Wilson didn't struggle as mightily as his teammate, Jalen Tabor, but he was also disappointing in Indianapolis. He ran a 4.54, which isn't horrible considering his size (6-1, 211). However, his 9-10 broad jump and 32-inch vertical indicated that he has little explosion, and he was just fine in the drills. He didn't stand out, and that's something he needed to do in this ridiculous draft class.
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Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado
Chidobe Awuzie would've earned a stock-up grade regardless of his testing numbers, unless they were awful. That's because he was one of the top cornerbacks in the drills for the first group. Of course, his numbers were great. He ran a 4.43, posted an 11-0 broad jump and leapt 34.5 inches vertically. His 3-cone time of 6.81 was solid as well. Awuzie had a very strong combine and could be chosen in the second round.
Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State
I'd say Gareon Conley was the overall winner for the first group of defensive backs. He kicked things off with a 4.44 40, and he then went on to post a 10-9 broad jump, a 37-inch vertical and a 6.68 3-cone, which was one of the best times among the players at his position. Conley also thrived in the drills. He was seen as a second-round possibility, but he could now be pushing to be a Thursday night choice.
Shaquill Griffin, CB, Central Florida
Shaquill Griffin posted one of the top 40 times for all of the defensive backs Monday, running an electric 4.38. His other numbers were just as outstanding; he had an 11-0 broad jump and a 38.5-inch vertical. His 3-cone time (6.87) was fine as well. More importantly, Griffin looked very smooth in the drills. He definitely helped himself at the combine.
Adoree Jackson, CB, USC
Adoree Jackson certainly had a solid showing in Indianapolis. He ran a 4.42 40 (4.39 unofficially), and he leapt 36 inches vertically and 10-2 horizontally. Those numbers won't blow anyone away, but they were solid. The reason Jackson is getting an up arrow is because of how great he was in the drills. Of all the defensive backs in the first group, Jackson looked the best in those on-field drills. He did well to cement his first-round status.
Josh Jones, S, N.C. State
Josh Jones was another top winner from the first group of defensive backs. He ran a 4.41 40 and posted an 11-0 in the broad jump and 37.5 inches in the vertical. Keep in mind that Jones is a 220-pound safety! Jones was excellent in the drills as well, so he may have worked his way into second-day consideration.
Kevin King, CB, Washington
There aren't many 6-foot-3 cornerbacks on this planet who can run a 4.43 40, but Kevin King is certainly one of them. King had an awesome performance in Indianapolis. On top of his great 40, he also leapt 39.5 inches vertically and posted a blazing-fast 6.56 3-cone time.
Obi Melifonwu, S, Connecticut
Obi Melifonwu is a freak of nature. There's no other way to describe him. He measured in at 6-4, 224, so keep that in mind when you see his numbers: 4.40 40; 11-9 broad jump; 44-inch vertical. Pretty good, right? The funny thing is that Melifonwu was upset with his vertical leap. Melifonwu is more than just a ridiculous athlete, however. He's actually a very good football player, so it wasn't a surprise that he thrived in the drills.
Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA
Fabian Moreau was overshadowed by the players running right before and after him, but teams undoubtedly took notice. Moreau sprinted a 4.35 40, a terrific number considering he's 6-0, 206. His leaping numbers were also excellent, as he posted a 38-inch vertical and an 11-4 broad jump. Moreau, who was the top player at the East-West Shrine Game, continued his torrid draft preseason.
Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota
Jalen Myrick doesn't have great tape, but he definitely put himself on the radar by what he did at the combine. He ran the fastest 40 of any player not named John Ross, sprinting a 4.28. He also posted a 10-4 broad jump and a 37.5-inch vertical. Front offices will certainly be reviewing his tapes in the coming weeks.
Montae Nicholson, S, Michigan State
I mentioned Josh Jones earlier as a big safety who posted some terrific numbers in the testing drills. Montae Nicholson is another one, as he sprinted a 4.42 40 despite being 6-2, 212 pounds. Nicholson also leapt well, hitting a 10-5 broad jump and a 35-inch vertical. Nicholson could garner some third-round consideration.
Marcus Williams, S, Utah
Jamal Adams and Malik Hooker are obviously the top two safeties in this class, and Jabrill Peppers is probably No. 3. Marcus Williams, however, could challenge Peppers for that spot. His 40 (4.56) wasn't as fast as Peppers', but his other numbers (43.5-inch vertical, 10-9 broad, 6.85 3-cone) were all excellent. Williams was at his best in the drills, where he looked incredibly fluid. It wouldn't be shocking to see Williams creep into the first round.
Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado
There was some talk about Ahkello Witherspoon being a second-round prospect, and this was prior to the combine. Witherspoon did nothing to hurt his draft stock in Indianapolis. He ran a 4.45 with a 1.55 10-yard split, which is quite excellent for a 6-3, 198-pound cornerback. He also tested well elsewhere, notching a 10-7 broad jump and a 40.5-inch vertical. Witherspoon looked extremely fluid in the drills as well, which isn't a surprise because he has great footwork as a result of being a former soccer player.
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Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia
Rasul Douglas' testing numbers can't be described as awful; he ran a 4.59, but he's a 6-2, 209-pound cornerback. His 10-0 broad jump and 33.5-inch vertical weren't poor either. However, Douglas struggled in the drills. He looked awkward and stiff, so I have trouble envisioning him being chosen prior to Day 3.
Lorenzo Jerome, S, St. Francis-PA
Lorenzo Jerome is a solid player on tape, but his testing numbers could hurt him. He ran at a glacial pace in both the 40 and 3-cone, recording a 4.70 and 7.63, respectively. Both numbers were awful. Hopefully Jerome can improve on both at his pro day.
Jalen Tabor, CB, Florida
There were so many blazing 40 times among the second group of defensive backs. Jalen Tabor did not have one, however. His 40 was very disappointing, as he posted a 4.62. His jumps (10-0 broad, 31 vertical) were also disappointing, as was his performance in the on-field drills. Combine this with his off-the-field issues, and Tabor could now widely be considered a second- or even a third-round prospect.
Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
Quincy Wilson didn't struggle as mightily as his teammate, Jalen Tabor, but he was also disappointing in Indianapolis. He ran a 4.54, which isn't horrible considering his size (6-1, 211). However, his 9-10 broad jump and 32-inch vertical indicated that he has little explosion, and he was just fine in the drills. He didn't stand out, and that's something he needed to do in this ridiculous draft class.
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Last one can happen but prob not week 1lets make a ban bet for each...
Doug Martin entered a drug treatment program???? I missed that. Proud of boy 
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