The Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread
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Weren't you telling me he was slow and would run in the 4.6s?
I told you Evan Engram was the #1 TE in this class.
Funny thing is dude ran faster than almost all of the WRs. I think this 4.42 has him as a surefire first rounder now
TUA TAGOVAILOA
Superstar
Yea I didn't think he was this fast.
He isn't a TE though he is a WR he looks like a lil bytch compared to the other TE's out there. He should go first round like I said tho
I agree Kaaya needs to go to the right situation to succeed. He needs good receivers and a good o-line.
King P
Legends Never Die
Lots of Offensive Talent Interests Buccaneers
Since general manager Jason Licht took over Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers have attacked the same side of the ball in the first and second round. In 2014, the Bucs took a wide receiver and tight end with their first two picks. A year later, they selected a quarterback and offensive tackle in the top 35. This past April, they went with a cornerback and pass-rusher. In speaking with Bucs sources, it sounds like the offensive side of the ball is the priority in the first round at least.
There is a group of first-round offensive weapons who are in play for Tampa Bay. Sources say that Alabama tight end O.J. Howard, Stanford running back Christian McCaffrey, Washington wide receiver John Ross, and Western Michigan wide receiver Corey Davis are all possibilities. Sources say that Miami tight end David Njoku could also creep into that conversation as his workouts are expected to be tremendous.
Many Buccaneer fans would love the team to land Florida State star running back Dalvin Cook, but the Buccaneers don't see Cook sliding to them. One team source said that is "wishful thinking." Even if the Buccaneers pass on McCaffrey, they see other running backs they could land on Day 2 as having quick starting potential. Tennessee running back Alvin Kamara and Texas' D'onta Foreman probably won't make it to their second-round pick, but there are other second-day backs that they like. Those players are Boise State's Jeremy McNichols, Wyoming's Brian Hill, Oklahoma's Samaje Perine, Toledo's Kareem Hunt, and South Florida's Marlon Mack. The Buccaneers think all of those backs are good enough to start quickly in their NFL career. There also are a huge group of receiver prospects for the second day and middle rounds that Tampa Bay can draw on.
What Tampa Bay is able to do in free agency obviously could impact its draft direction, but at this time, upgrading the weapons for Jameis Winston seems to be the priority on Thursday night of the draft. A safety and pass rusher could also factor into the early rounds, but an offensive skill position player seems to be the focus in the first round.
Since general manager Jason Licht took over Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers have attacked the same side of the ball in the first and second round. In 2014, the Bucs took a wide receiver and tight end with their first two picks. A year later, they selected a quarterback and offensive tackle in the top 35. This past April, they went with a cornerback and pass-rusher. In speaking with Bucs sources, it sounds like the offensive side of the ball is the priority in the first round at least.
There is a group of first-round offensive weapons who are in play for Tampa Bay. Sources say that Alabama tight end O.J. Howard, Stanford running back Christian McCaffrey, Washington wide receiver John Ross, and Western Michigan wide receiver Corey Davis are all possibilities. Sources say that Miami tight end David Njoku could also creep into that conversation as his workouts are expected to be tremendous.
Many Buccaneer fans would love the team to land Florida State star running back Dalvin Cook, but the Buccaneers don't see Cook sliding to them. One team source said that is "wishful thinking." Even if the Buccaneers pass on McCaffrey, they see other running backs they could land on Day 2 as having quick starting potential. Tennessee running back Alvin Kamara and Texas' D'onta Foreman probably won't make it to their second-round pick, but there are other second-day backs that they like. Those players are Boise State's Jeremy McNichols, Wyoming's Brian Hill, Oklahoma's Samaje Perine, Toledo's Kareem Hunt, and South Florida's Marlon Mack. The Buccaneers think all of those backs are good enough to start quickly in their NFL career. There also are a huge group of receiver prospects for the second day and middle rounds that Tampa Bay can draw on.
What Tampa Bay is able to do in free agency obviously could impact its draft direction, but at this time, upgrading the weapons for Jameis Winston seems to be the priority on Thursday night of the draft. A safety and pass rusher could also factor into the early rounds, but an offensive skill position player seems to be the focus in the first round.
King P
Legends Never Die
49ers, Bears Show Interest in Jonathan Allen; Browns Quiet
Jonathan Allen is one of the top consensus draft prospects in this class, ranking No. 4 on our NFL Draft Big Board. In this writer's opinion, the Alabama defensive lineman was the best player in college football last year, as he dominated his opponents on a weekly basis. While the Heisman Trophy almost never goes to a defensive player, Allen was deserving of the award as the best player in the nation. Everyone expects Allen to go high in the first round, and teams in the top five are showing interest. Sources tell WalterFootball.com that the San Francisco 49ers (No. 2 overall) and Chicago Bears (No. 3 overall) have shown serious interest in getting to know Allen, but the Cleveland Browns have not.
Some have thought that Allen could be a dark horse to go first overall instead of Texas A&M edge rusher Myles Garret. The reason for that is this Browns regime drafted Emmanuel Ogbah and Carl Nassib last year while inheriting another young edge rusher in Nate Orchard. Cleveland also is switching to a 4-3 defense and could use an interior disruptive defensive tackle to pair with nose tackle Danny Shelton. Thus, some thought that Allen could end up going first overall.
However, at this point, the Browns have been awfully quiet with Allen. Sources say that Allen is still in the running. Perhaps Cleveland will show more interest in the months to come to do their due diligence on Allen, but to this point, Cleveland has not been expressing interest to set up meetings.
Conversely, the Bears and 49ers have been involved with checking on Allen while setting times to meet, according to sources. While the Browns may not be heavily interested in Allen atop the draft, it sounds unlikely that both the Bears and 49ers would pass on him.
Jonathan Allen is one of the top consensus draft prospects in this class, ranking No. 4 on our NFL Draft Big Board. In this writer's opinion, the Alabama defensive lineman was the best player in college football last year, as he dominated his opponents on a weekly basis. While the Heisman Trophy almost never goes to a defensive player, Allen was deserving of the award as the best player in the nation. Everyone expects Allen to go high in the first round, and teams in the top five are showing interest. Sources tell WalterFootball.com that the San Francisco 49ers (No. 2 overall) and Chicago Bears (No. 3 overall) have shown serious interest in getting to know Allen, but the Cleveland Browns have not.
Some have thought that Allen could be a dark horse to go first overall instead of Texas A&M edge rusher Myles Garret. The reason for that is this Browns regime drafted Emmanuel Ogbah and Carl Nassib last year while inheriting another young edge rusher in Nate Orchard. Cleveland also is switching to a 4-3 defense and could use an interior disruptive defensive tackle to pair with nose tackle Danny Shelton. Thus, some thought that Allen could end up going first overall.
However, at this point, the Browns have been awfully quiet with Allen. Sources say that Allen is still in the running. Perhaps Cleveland will show more interest in the months to come to do their due diligence on Allen, but to this point, Cleveland has not been expressing interest to set up meetings.
Conversely, the Bears and 49ers have been involved with checking on Allen while setting times to meet, according to sources. While the Browns may not be heavily interested in Allen atop the draft, it sounds unlikely that both the Bears and 49ers would pass on him.
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
For once I actually agree with you
Adams is slept on,especially on this board
Hooker is the better centerfielder but Adams is easily a better football player and overall safety
And people sleeping on Budda Baker too
If he runs what i think he will add Baker to my list of players i want at 16
STAN JONES
Fire John Harbaugh
TUA TAGOVAILOA
Superstar
A lot of those DBs are going to run in the 4.3's
King P
Legends Never Die
Adams isn't as great in coverage as Hooker though (he's good in his own right though).
I like Maye, but I'd rank Eddie Jackson above him (provided he can stay healthy)
So u just gonna make up Hooker can't tackle narrative? Buckeyes run this shyt, 1st safety, 1st corner off the board are Buckeyes, deal wit it :UmadOH:
That's on Butch Jones. He does a good job of making talented people look bad. Just think about the athletes Tennessee had.
(1) RB Alvin Kamara put up the #1 vertical leap and #1 broad jump for all RBs at the combine.
(2) QB Joshua Dobbs put up the #2 fastest 40 time and the #3 best broad jump and vertical leap of any QB at the combine.
(3) WR Josh Malone posted the #3 fastest 40 time of any WR at the combine after record breaker John Ross and Curtis Samuel.
All 3 tested among the best 3-5 athletes at their position and yet were severely underused at Tennessee.
King P
Legends Never Die
Combine Report 3/4: More on Reuben Foster
The story garnering the headlines this morning at the combine is the behavior of Reuben Foster as he waited for an MRI on Friday. As with everything else in life, there are two sides to every story. While this in no way justifies Foster’s behavior, I’m told there has been a lot of disorganization and inefficiency with player visits to the hospital for MRIs, something that has been a problem for years.
Take into the account the experience of Boise State linebacker Tanner Vallejo, who awoke on Friday morning at 3:45 a.m. for combine medical checks. Throughout the afternoon, his schedule was filled with interviews and team meetings. That evening around 7 p.m., Vallejo was informed an MRI was requested on his injured wrist, which necessitated a trip to the hospital. So he went, and he waited and waited and waited. Vallejo eventually arrived back in his room at 3 a.m. in the morning -- almost 24 hours later!!
And while Foster’s behavior cannot be excused, having players wait in hospitals for six or seven hours for simple procedures is also unwarranted. I doubt Foster’s anger at waiting in a medical office, something most of us have experienced, will negatively affect his draft stock.
The bench press numbers have not been anything to brag about this year, and several sources have confided in me that they believe the bench they are using is narrower than usual, which has led to lower numbers than expected. Players are having problems getting leverage on the bench, and many have come off the bench with sore shoulders.
While people applauded Samaje Perine for completing 30 reps, the running back had been consistently pushing up 35 reps in training and expected to replicate that number at the combine but had problems with the bench. Utah guard Isaac Asiata hoped to complete 40 reps and expected at least 38 but finished with 35. He also had problems with the bench. Pac-12 receivers Chad Hansen of Cal and Darreus Rogers of USC are players who also had issues with the bench.
The story garnering the headlines this morning at the combine is the behavior of Reuben Foster as he waited for an MRI on Friday. As with everything else in life, there are two sides to every story. While this in no way justifies Foster’s behavior, I’m told there has been a lot of disorganization and inefficiency with player visits to the hospital for MRIs, something that has been a problem for years.
Take into the account the experience of Boise State linebacker Tanner Vallejo, who awoke on Friday morning at 3:45 a.m. for combine medical checks. Throughout the afternoon, his schedule was filled with interviews and team meetings. That evening around 7 p.m., Vallejo was informed an MRI was requested on his injured wrist, which necessitated a trip to the hospital. So he went, and he waited and waited and waited. Vallejo eventually arrived back in his room at 3 a.m. in the morning -- almost 24 hours later!!
And while Foster’s behavior cannot be excused, having players wait in hospitals for six or seven hours for simple procedures is also unwarranted. I doubt Foster’s anger at waiting in a medical office, something most of us have experienced, will negatively affect his draft stock.
The bench press numbers have not been anything to brag about this year, and several sources have confided in me that they believe the bench they are using is narrower than usual, which has led to lower numbers than expected. Players are having problems getting leverage on the bench, and many have come off the bench with sore shoulders.
While people applauded Samaje Perine for completing 30 reps, the running back had been consistently pushing up 35 reps in training and expected to replicate that number at the combine but had problems with the bench. Utah guard Isaac Asiata hoped to complete 40 reps and expected at least 38 but finished with 35. He also had problems with the bench. Pac-12 receivers Chad Hansen of Cal and Darreus Rogers of USC are players who also had issues with the bench.