The OFFICIAL 2016 College football RANDOM THOUGHTS thread

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gonna be a tough one @smitty22

Way Too Early 2016 Preview | OU vs. Ohio State

this is pretty spot on IMO. Our WRs & LBs are all fairly inexperienced. Y'all have tons of talent everywhere, but inexperienced. Our best hope will be outscheming and confusing y'all. Athlete for athlete y'all have more talent, but we have little more experience. We gotta get done in the trenches tho. And it doesnt help us that y'all play Tulsa the week before b/c they're offense is asimilar to ours

WHY OKLAHOMA WILL WIN

While the narrative tends to center around the talent Urban Meyer has brought to campus, it’s not exactly as though Bob Stoops is slacking in that department either. That said, coming off that Orange Bowl game against Clemson, OU fans have some legitimate concerns as to how their respective fronts hold up against some of the country’s other elite programs.

Will Orlando Brown, Dru Samia, & co. be able to consistently open up enough space for OU’s ridiculously loaded backfield to make plays on the ground? Those opportunities figure be there, especially early, and in what should be one of the rowdiest environments at an OU home game in several years this could easily prove to be the key to the game. Can OU establish the ground game early? If the answer is yes, OU fans will likely love the outcome.

Will Baker Mayfield be able to create plays out of nothing like he did in 2015 and find open receivers down the field? And who will those receivers be? Lincoln Riley’s system by design creates space for itself and those guys on the outside, while taking away opportunities for tighter coverage. Will Mark Andrews create match up nightmares for whomever has the misfortune of lining up over him? I expect this game will be when he earns that national recognition, if that’s any indication as to which way I’m leaning.

The Sooner defense needs to be in-sync by what will be their third game of the season. Having a stout, early test in the opener against Houston and an entire offseason knowing that game is ahead of them favors the odds of them being ‘in-sync’ come Ohio State. But there is no doubt Barrett will present a considerable threat along with the stable of talented athletes he’ll be bringing with him.

If the offense plays the way I believe they’re capable of playing and the OU defense can at least somewhat limit Barrett’s ability to make plays outside the pocket, we have every reason to believe the Sooners can protect their home field.

WHY OHIO STATE WILL WIN

Ohio State is loaded, and I do mean loaded, with talent. Defensively they return one of the best linebackers in the country in Raekwon McMillan. The 6’2″ 240-pound destroyer will be looking to bring the pain to Samaje Perine, Joe Mixon, Baker Mayfield, and/or any receiver who dares enter his bubble. The Buckeyes are going to be fast at linebacker and it will show early, just in terms of chasing down receivers and ball-carriers. Along the defensive front, the Buckeyes return Tyquan Lewis who led the team in sacks last year. When you recall the 2015 version of Ohio State had a guy named Joey Bosa, Lewis’ sack feat is all the more worrisome.

Needless to say OU’s offensive lin, who will be working in at least a couple new starters, will have their hands full early and often with stunts, twists, and the like, from highly talented defenders in a proven scheme. The last time OU faced a defensive front seven with as much talent and ability, although more experienced, was against Clemson in the Orange Bowl. And OU fans remember all too well where that game was decided.

While Ohio State’s secondary will be green, returning only one starter, they will have had a good opponent in Tulsa to prepare for the OU passing attack. The Golden Hurricanes will sling it all over the field, and use some of the same pass patterns and combinations as the Sooners employ. So the Buckeyes will have essentially an extra scout team week of looking at a lot of the same type of offensive schemes being thrown their way.

Offensively, the Buckeyes only have two starters returning across the line though they will fill in the missing pieces with other talented giants, who will be looking to create a new line of scrimmage each and every play against an OU defensive line. An OU defensive line that many are expecting big things from in 2016. If there is consistent backward movement, or stabilization of OU’s defensive front, it figures be a long day for the Sooners. As Ohio State quite simply will have too much overall talent to not take advantage of gaping holes, time to throw, etc.

Thus, much like the Clemson game, if tOSU is able to control the line of scrimmage they could come into Norman and pull the upset.

WHAT WILL REALLY HAPPEN

When Oklahoma Has the Ball:

Honestly, OU has the potential to be an offense that cannot be stopped. Slowed down? Sure, probably, at times. But truly stopped? I don’t think so. This is an OU offense that faced top level talent last season on several occasions, which taught them all a little about themselves as players. There will be something to prove in Norman on this night and there will be chunks of rushing yardage gained to go along with plenty of “ohs and ahs” in the passing attack.

Oklahoma will score points. It probably will not be in bunches, but score they will.

When Ohio State Has the Ball:

Barrett is going to get his yards. He is too good an athlete to not make something out of nothing at least a couple times and has a ton of experience in big games. His skill set is the kind that historically gives Mike Stoops defenses fits. Barrett will have his moments, but I expect OU will be able to prevent him from ‘breaking the big one.’ And Ohio State’s “green” running backs should be welcomed to Norman with hard hits and sure tackles.

The noise also figures to be a factor for the tOSU offense, so I’d expect to see a lot of non-verbal signing going on among the offensive line and skill players. While this is quite normal in college football these days, it can often lead to miscommunications, wrong routes, running backs pass blocking on the wrong side of the line, etc. Noise will be a huge factor, and this cannot be stressed enough.

Expect to find out what the OU front seven is made of in this game. It will either leave you saying “They’re still not quite there” or “THIS is an Oklahoma defense”. Get ready.
 

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You can say the same thing about every conference. Who is the PAC 12 without Stanford and oregon? Who is the acc without Clemson and FSU? And I'm far from scared of these fugazi sec boogie men like arkansas and ole piss. they really ain't shyt. aTm and Florida are embarrassing and UT is gonna choke on applesauce this year.


True I see plenty of upside for the BIG though them and the ACC are trending upward I got Nebraska making jump. I'm not sure what to think on Northwestern and Iowa they might have shot they wad in 2015 but schools like them belong in the 7th/8th spot anyway. ACC is deep this year but Clemson/FSU are the Floyd/Manny this decade they way above the rest of the conference i'm keeping my eye on Fuente at Va Tech everyone hollering about the U but I think Va Tech made the best hire in the conference especially keeping Foster as DC for stability. Va Tech can get back to being Va Tech quicker than Miami getting to the 10 win fantasyland.


Pac 12 is the weakest USC has no coach,Washington has yet to prove they can handle the hype, Oregon is in a criticial year with Helfrich, Mora bout to duck out on UCLA, The Arizona Schools don't have enough horses on defense to be serious threats.
 

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gonna be a tough one @smitty22

Way Too Early 2016 Preview | OU vs. Ohio State

this is pretty spot on IMO. Our WRs & LBs are all fairly inexperienced. Y'all have tons of talent everywhere, but inexperienced. Our best hope will be outscheming and confusing y'all. Athlete for athlete y'all have more talent, but we have little more experience. We gotta get done in the trenches tho. And it doesnt help us that y'all play Tulsa the week before b/c they're offense is asimilar to ours


OSU DL vs OU OL that's the game
 

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outside(tackles) should be ok, inside is unproven. But both will (Should) be better than what you saw against Clemson.


I like seeing OU vs these OOC schools I can't get a good read on OU anymore because of this arena league ass Big 12. Texas has been a school that's had it's way vs OU OL past 3 years too I don't worry about the skill positions with OU they scheme will make stars out of the WR's.
 

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I like seeing OU vs these OOC schools I can't get a good read on OU anymore because of this arena league ass Big 12. Texas has been a school that's had it's way vs OU OL past 3 years too I don't worry about the skill positions with OU they scheme will make stars out of the WR's.

for the most part, we've held our own the past several yrs against everyone OOC during the season. ND, FSU, Tenn. etc

OSU will be different with Urban's recruit-cheatin ass tho.
 

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gonna be a tough one @smitty22

Way Too Early 2016 Preview | OU vs. Ohio State

this is pretty spot on IMO. Our WRs & LBs are all fairly inexperienced. Y'all have tons of talent everywhere, but inexperienced. Our best hope will be outscheming and confusing y'all. Athlete for athlete y'all have more talent, but we have little more experience. We gotta get done in the trenches tho. And it doesnt help us that y'all play Tulsa the week before b/c they're offense is asimilar to ours
Might come down to home field advatange. Our young guys 1st away game is at Norman :sadcam:. Should be a great game breh. Either way the experience of this type of game gonna help both teams the rest of the season
 

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for the most part, we've held our own the past several yrs against everyone OOC during the season. ND, FSU, Tenn. etc

OSU will be different with Urban's recruit-cheatin ass tho.


ND shut it down in 12 and pretty much gifted 13 game away with 2 quick INT's.

Tennessee defense had Oklahoma looking ass until the 4th I chalk that up to new scheme though.

FSU wasn't on OU back in 10-11 the 11 team played they heart out and kept it close but they weren't ready. Clemson worked them over bad the past 2 years I got serious concerns about OU OL @jadillac i'm probably being too negative but them nikkas bamboozled me too many times before running it up on Texas Tech and the Kansas schools. That OSU/Oklahoma game is most intriguing of the first month even though OSU will be replacing a lot they still got the athletes I think OSU,Bama and FSU the most talented P4P it's just OSU lacking the game experience. I see how OU do vs H-Town and see what the line move to I'm liking OSU +7 right now
 
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True I see plenty of upside for the BIG though them and the ACC are trending upward I got Nebraska making jump. I'm not sure what to think on Northwestern and Iowa they might have shot they wad in 2015 but schools like them belong in the 7th/8th spot anyway. ACC is deep this year but Clemson/FSU are the Floyd/Manny this decade they way above the rest of the conference i'm keeping my eye on Fuente at Va Tech everyone hollering about the U but I think Va Tech made the best hire in the conference especially keeping Foster as DC for stability. Va Tech can get back to being Va Tech quicker than Miami getting to the 10 win fantasyland.


Pac 12 is the weakest USC has no coach,Washington has yet to prove they can handle the hype, Oregon is in a criticial year with Helfrich, Mora bout to duck out on UCLA, The Arizona Schools don't have enough horses on defense to be serious threats.
3 loss champion this year...pac12 is fish food
 

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3 loss champion this year...pac12 is fish food


Yeah I don't see anyway anyone runs the table unless Oregon takes it back to 2012 Oregon. I wanna see what Fat Boy Hoke can do for they swiss cheese defense. Stanford always sleepwalks in a couple games I got them losing to ND and Washington off top. USC losing at least 4 games and UCLA can't win is an auto 2 home losses a year squad.
 

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Stanford gon win the Pac 12 with 1 or 2 losses.


I've been debating who I got winning the Big 10 but I'm leaning towards OSU with them getting hot towards the end of the season the way they did 2 years ago
 

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fukk'd up Fedora didn't release him as a football transfer and his parents are having to pay for the first year so he is a walk on.

I think the RB position is slept on. Muschamp says that the OL is the best unit on the team(that may not be a good thing).

i know man... i read that and was like :what:


i'm actually ok with the OL being the best unit ... hopefully it's run and pass where they are the best. it all starts from there.
 

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ND shut it down in 12 and pretty much gifted 13 game away with 2 quick INT's.

Tennessee defense had Oklahoma looking ass until the 4th I chalk that up to new scheme though.

FSU wasn't on OU back in 10-11 the 11 team played they heart out and kept it close but they weren't ready. Clemson worked them over bad the past 2 years I got serious concerns about OU OL @jadillac i'm probably being too negative but them nikkas bamboozled me too many times before running it up on Texas Tech and the Kansas schools. That OSU/Oklahoma game is most intriguing of the first month even though OSU will be replacing a lot they still got the athletes I think OSU,Bama and FSU the most talented P4P it's just OSU lacking the game experience. I see how OU do vs H-Town and see what the line move to I'm liking OSU +7 right now

I'm not mad at that or -7

But we're finally recruiting on a level that we haven't in a long, long time. Maybe ever. Last year, we were coming off a 5 loss season...this season is where we need to shine.

I think we're good on D-line. Our best player didn't play vs Clemson, but everyones back and bigger. O-line is less of a question than it was last year(could've use that kid we lost to Bama after that racst fraternity incident). I'm more concerned about only having 1 LB with playing experience.

If we're slugging it out with OhSU, we'll have a hard time. Gotta jump on them early and make them play from behind.

And go watch that Clemson game again, 1st qtr was ours. 2nd qtr was a push, but we still took the momentum going into halftime and the lead. 3rd quarter we fell apart.

I hope Mike Stoops is watching how other teams with lesser talent defended JT Barrett last year
 
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